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Old 02-18-2019, 11:38 AM
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While bolt actions are a tad faster to maintain in the field, a Ruger or Marlin semiauto is just as reliable.

After having tube loaders go to crap via 10day plus outings in remote places, I much prefer a flush fit magazine that can quickly and easily be replaced, and 25rd mags that can also be swapped if they become damaged or all rds are expended. ( Semi or bolt)

However......I wouldn't choose a long gun chambered in 22lr as a shtf/ teotwawki/ dooms frikin day long gun either.

A lightweight/ compact/ suppressed 22lr handgun serves the same purpose ( Quietly harvesting pot stew meat), and can reside in a holster/ case that protects the entire firearm, spare mags/ ammo, can while attached at all times, and its cleaning kit. Total weight of gun and can = 33 ounces. No need to reassemble a take down long gun ( Ruger 1022 td/ AR7) either. Simply draw it from my holster and use it. It's also much more effective to use one handed and with either hand vs a 22lr long gun...in event that one hand becomes injured......which will happen sooner or later if ya spend enough time in the outdoors.

The centerfire long gun takes care of everything else.

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A lightweight/ compact/ suppressed 22lr handgun serves the same purpose ( Quietly harvesting pot stew meat),
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This is what USRSOG has tested, uses, and recommends from a SERE perspective. I would agree as well..

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I have an ATI GSG-522SD (MP5 clone) and love this thing, provided you use decent ammo.
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Does anyone think an MP5 clone chambered in 22 long rifle would have a role in a SHTF / Doomsday event?

Why an MP5 clone in 22 long rifle? Mainly because they are compact. However, I am not sure they would be a better choice than a Ruger 10/22 with a 30 round magazine.
i have a gsg5 in 22, as a matter of fact it is the only time i bothered to get a tax stamp for a suppressor as well... cycles most sub-sonic rounds well, but not as hollywood quiet as i would have expected...

that being said, it doesnt give me any more capability than a 10/22 with bx25 mags... for survival id go with a ruger 10/22 takedown on top of my gsg5, if i had to only choose one.
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For a semiauto I would prefer a 10/22 or charger with brace. Probably lighter than the clone and the mags and spare/replacement parts are more readily available.
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I don't see a role for a 9mm MP-5 much less a 22LR range toy in that situation.
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