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Old 02-18-2019, 11:38 AM
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While bolt actions are a tad faster to maintain in the field, a Ruger or Marlin semiauto is just as reliable.

After having tube loaders go to crap via 10day plus outings in remote places, I much prefer a flush fit magazine that can quickly and easily be replaced, and 25rd mags that can also be swapped if they become damaged or all rds are expended. ( Semi or bolt)

However......I wouldn't choose a long gun chambered in 22lr as a shtf/ teotwawki/ dooms frikin day long gun either.

A lightweight/ compact/ suppressed 22lr handgun serves the same purpose ( Quietly harvesting pot stew meat), and can reside in a holster/ case that protects the entire firearm, spare mags/ ammo, can while attached at all times, and its cleaning kit. Total weight of gun and can = 33 ounces. No need to reassemble a take down long gun ( Ruger 1022 td/ AR7) either. Simply draw it from my holster and use it. It's also much more effective to use one handed and with either hand vs a 22lr long event that one hand becomes injured......which will happen sooner or later if ya spend enough time in the outdoors.

The centerfire long gun takes care of everything else.

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A lightweight/ compact/ suppressed 22lr handgun serves the same purpose ( Quietly harvesting pot stew meat),
This is what USRSOG has tested, uses, and recommends from a SERE perspective. I would agree as well..

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I have an ATI GSG-522SD (MP5 clone) and love this thing, provided you use decent ammo.
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Originally Posted by kev View Post
Does anyone think an MP5 clone chambered in 22 long rifle would have a role in a SHTF / Doomsday event?

Why an MP5 clone in 22 long rifle? Mainly because they are compact. However, I am not sure they would be a better choice than a Ruger 10/22 with a 30 round magazine.
i have a gsg5 in 22, as a matter of fact it is the only time i bothered to get a tax stamp for a suppressor as well... cycles most sub-sonic rounds well, but not as hollywood quiet as i would have expected...

that being said, it doesnt give me any more capability than a 10/22 with bx25 mags... for survival id go with a ruger 10/22 takedown on top of my gsg5, if i had to only choose one.
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For a semiauto I would prefer a 10/22 or charger with brace. Probably lighter than the clone and the mags and spare/replacement parts are more readily available.
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I don't see a role for a 9mm MP-5 much less a 22LR range toy in that situation.
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