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Just trying to solve a debate raging between some folks online.

There was a guy claiming he used a 9 shot magazine for his Walther PPK back in 1979 during a confrontation (an unbelievable story in itself).

There are a some folks saying that back then you could not get a 9 shot mag for a Walther PPK and his story is pure bunkum.

Some say you could get a 9 shot mag as an aftermarket magazine.

To the firearm guru's of the S Boards of that era and beyond - 9 Shot magazine for a Walther PPK?

Yes? No? Maybe?

I do not know what caliber the Walther was unfortunately.
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Well the calibre is rather important, because a .32 held more rounds than a .380 and a .25 held even more.
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It could have been a .380 or a .32 or even a .25
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It could have been a .380 or a .32 or even a .25
There you go. Just say "depends on the caliber."
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Yeah but do any of those calibers match a 9 shot magazine or is it 8, 10, 12 etc???
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As far as my knowledge goes, and this is for factory capacity only mind you, its:

Walther PP: 10+1 (.22), 8+1 (.32), 7+1 (.380)

Walther PPK: 8+1 (.22), 7+1 (.32), 6+1 (.380)

Now, without a sense of when it was made (prewar vs post war)....my honest guess is....maybe? Here's why. I used to know a man when I was younger. Older gentleman that I used to cut grass for. He was a WWII vet and brought home a genuine Walther P38. All the proper markings, etc etc. All it was missing was the original magazine. I got to shoot it one day and considered myself lucky.

Anyway, here's the unique thing about that pistol. The grips were CLEAR plastic. Not the black bakelite type you'd expect to see on it. Mr Tony's theory was that the previous owner had the grips custom made so he could see how many rounds were in the pistol without having to drop the mag.

Not a bad idea actually.

So.....with that in mind. If that PPK of your buddy's is a wartime version.......there's no telling what some soldier could have had made up for it. Or, does anyone know if the magazines interchange from the bigger PP to the PPK?

I'm kinda stumped really. Maybe is the best I can get you without more info.
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Hmm, thanks for that Mash.

I wonder if what the guy meant when he went on about his '9 shot magazine' he meant either it was 9 shots total (8+1) making it a .32 OR a .22LR with a 10 round magazine he'd only load to a capacity of 9.

Then of course there's the aftermarket magazines possibly available back then as well...
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Hmm, thanks for that Mash.

I wonder if what the guy meant when he went on about his '9 shot magazine' he meant either it was 9 shots total (8+1) making it a .32 OR a .22LR with a 10 round magazine he'd only load to a capacity of 9.

Then of course there's the aftermarket magazines possibly available back then as well...
Possibly. I do know that the Walthers were very prevalent back in those days. Seems like everyone had one. It was a war gun AND James Bond carried it so it was very popular.
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Possibly. I do know that the Walthers were very prevalent back in those days. Seems like everyone had one. It was a war gun AND James Bond carried it so it was very popular.
Does it still have the popularity?
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Does it still have the popularity?
More like a cult following.

Example:
I have a couple, but I don't carry it.

You can get a 9mm in a smaller, lighter package now.
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As others have said, it depends on the calibre.

Using the OEM magazine, you could get 9 rounds in the weapon (but not in the magazine), with the .22LR version.

It would take 8 rounds in the magazine, with one in the chamber.

Could it have been a PP instead?

That would have taken 10 rounds (plus one in the chamber) in .22LR, or 8 rounds (plus one in the chamber) in .32 ACP/7.65mm Browning.
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Does it still have the popularity?
Not hardly. Sure its a fun gun and all. It can trace its lineage directly to WWII. But as a practical carry peice, it sucks monkey balls.

While small, the all steel frame/slide makes it heavier than it needs to be. The blowback action makes it recoil harder than it should. And the double action trigger pull is the stuff of legend....hovering around the 20lb mark.

It is, however.... accurate. And the SA trigger mode makes it more tolerable to shoot.

But there are infinitely better choices on the market for that size/caliber gun today.
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And the double action trigger pull is the stuff of legend....hovering around the 20lb mark.
Yet DA triggers remain a popular feature on Self Loading Pistols.
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Yet DA triggers remain a popular feature on Self Loading Pistols.
Reread what I said. I wasn't knocking a DA trigger per se. I was knocking that particular DA trigger. The PPK DA trigger is one of the worst ones out there.....ever.
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Reread what I said. I wasn't knocking a DA trigger per se. I was knocking that particular DA trigger. The PPK DA trigger is one of the worst ones out there.....ever.
20 lbs sounds great for safety, that's not going to go off by accident that's for damned sure.
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20 lbs sounds great for safety, that's not going to go off by accident that's for damned sure.
But when you're having to squeeze that hard, more often than not, you're going to throw your first shot.
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The DA trigger is only intended for a shot straight from the draw.

If you draw before the immediate need to fire (even by just a second or two), you can cock the hammer manually.

I've fired my Berreta 92 DA and, even though the trigger pull is reasonable, it's still not something I would do through choice.
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Reread what I said. I wasn't knocking a DA trigger per se. I was knocking that particular DA trigger. The PPK DA trigger is one of the worst ones out there.....ever.
Yep. Makarov has SUUUUCH a better trigger, same power (Ish) same size, same style....much cheaper too.
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Interestingly the PPK was meant to replace the P38 though, does the P38 have a strong DA trigger pull also??
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Interestingly the PPK was meant to replace the P38 though, does the P38 have a strong DA trigger pull also??
The one I shot didn't.
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