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I am looking into getting a Rem 700 in .308 for some long distance accuracy. Id say max I want to reach out to is 1000 yards. I hear different models perform slightly different, Are they all sub MOA? Is there a specific model that is known for being more accurate then others? Thanks in advance
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I am looking into getting a Rem 700 in .308 for some long distance accuracy. Id say max I want to reach out to is 1000 yards. I hear different models perform slightly different, Are they all sub MOA? Is there a specific model that is known for being more accurate then others? Thanks in advance
Remington's Sendero SFII are described on their website as:
"the most accurate we produce for over-the-counter sale"

That sounds like a big hint........

I have a Sendero SF in 7mm Rem Mag which is one of the most accurate factory guns I have shot. But they do not chamber them in 308

So the next best thing is probably an XCR Tactical (which has similar specs to the Sendero - but is chambered in 308).
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Remington's Sendero SFII are described on their website as:
"the most accurate we produce for over-the-counter sale"

That sounds like a big hint........

I have a Sendero SF in 7mm Rem Mag which is one of the most accurate factory guns I have shot. But they do not chamber them in 308

So the next best thing is probably an XCR Tactical (which has similar specs to the Sendero - but is chambered in 308).
I just did a little research on the 7mm rem mag. Its seems to have a higher rate of speed and a flatter trajectory?? What is your best grouping with that particular rifle? Do you use it primarily for hunting or target shooting?
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If you are open to other calibers, look into the 6.5 Creedmoor.
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While the 308 can be shot at very long ranges, it would not be my first choice.
You might consider cartridges with better ballistic coefficient bullets and much higher velocities.
25-06 and 6.5mm Creedmore at the low end (recoil and energy), 7mm STW and 300 Win at the high end.
The Remington Sendero is well respected for off the shelf accuracy.
An excellent scope and solid mount is equally important.
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My Varminter in 308 is much more accurate than I am! I’ve only shot steel targets to 500 yards. I love it, but as mentioned previously, if I had to start over again, I’d look into the 6.5 Creedmoor for that much of a farther distance
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I would look at the 5R models in 308. There are a couple.
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For a similar price to the Sendero, get a Weatherby Mark V in the .308 chambering you wanted.
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I just did a little research on the 7mm rem mag. Its seems to have a higher rate of speed and a flatter trajectory?? What is your best grouping with that particular rifle? Do you use it primarily for hunting or target shooting?
Yes 7mm Rem Mag is a very versatile cartridge. It can comfortably take any North American game, has in the past held 1000yard world records (match shooting) and can be loaded with light bullets for thin skinned game (which is mostly how I use mine).

I was attracted to the Sendero as it is rare in being a factory heavy profile barreled rifle in a very long range cartridge. The stock is actually made for Remington by HS Precision, has an Aluminium bedding block and great ergonomics. The fluting and carbon fibre/kevlar stock make for moderate weight. The stock design handles the extra recoil of a belted magnum quite well.

My Sendero is fitted with a 6.5-20 Leupold Mark 4 LR Tactical scope. I use it around the farm and have shot pest animals/thin skinned game at ranges up to about 700 yards.

My pet load is a 120gn Hornady VMAX over 70 grains of Reloader 22 powder for about 3350fps at the muzzle. That load shoots five shot 0.5MOA groups at 100 yards out of my Sendero (which is factory standard except for me lightening the trigger to 2 lbs). They never exit and the effect of transferring 100% of 3000ft.lbs of energy into an smallish animal is spectacular.

I have shot the same load in a competition at 1000 yards (for fun). I was competing against guys with 30 inch barreled, single shot 308s (Heavy F class guns). We joked that I was using a farm gun. I came about the middle of the scores that day. The half of the competitors that I beat did not look happy (F Class guys take competition quite seriously).

For bigger game, you can go up to about 175gn bullets that have very high BC and great penetration.
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I am an old school traditionalist. 700 BDL in .30-06.
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I would personally look at the Milspec 5R .308 ... From what I remember reading, there are repeated rumors that they use the same barrel as on the US Army-issue M24 SWS (well I don't know if the Army is still buying the M24 these days, as since ~ 2010-2011 there have been a ton of different sniper rifles, configurations, and even calibers being used in the US mil these days it seems) ... I can remember reading people on other forums quoting someone who "worked at the Rem factory for years, etc etc. " and they basically made say 1000 barrels for the M24, but only need 400? Then they use the others on good actions, give it a nice stock (these days, HS Precision) and sell it at a huge discount.


Now according to Remington's website, it's simply the "same 5R rifling used in the M24 SWS" ... but still. A sweet-shooting 700 .308, with a very nice stock, and a stainless 5R M24-style barrel, $875.



My only little tidbit about 6.5 or whatever. Seems to me, since I started following firearms forums in late 2009, there is a new cool-kid caliber ever year, that becomes THE caliber to own. 6.8 SPC, 6.5 Grendel , .300 Whisper, 6.5 Creedmoor, .300 AAC Blackout, .50 Beowulf, .338 Lapua, etc. All fine calibers that can do some outstanding things, surely. But in a world where i live, where I have to pick and choose each caliber decision based on economics, real-world usage, and Survival & Preparedness considerations (which I assume I need not go into , and people here have similar concerns and considerations) -- I can't have all these cool kid calibers, I have to choose the ones that make the most sense. If I bought a 6.8 then a year later I'd have needed the 6.5, then the .300, then .338, etc.

Which is why I bought a .308 years back and although had to sell it, when I buy another long-range gun, it will be a .308 bolt-action (and really, a 700 5R etc. is not such a bad deal when you think about it.)
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I love my 700 SPS Tact. I've had it about 9 years now.
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Get the Sendero in 300 Win Mag or the Savage 111 long range hunter in 300 WM you can't go wrong for long range shooting. Even the US Army finally admitted that the 308 really wasn't a 1000 meter round.
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You should really consider the 6.5 CM because no one has ever missed the target or shot more than moa with it no matter the distance, wind, action, barrel length, twist rate, bullet weight etc. It will do everything except pull the trigger and really pretty, scantilly clad girls apparently love them too if you tube videos are to be believed...and you might score with them (girls) too!

I immediately sold my 6.8spc II, .300 AAC Blackout, 6.5 Grendel, .40 SW, 10mm, etc., etc., etc...for pennies on the dollar because no magazine cover, ad, forum discussion, firearms show is complete without a full blown slobbering testimonial to the utter greatness of the one and only greatest cartridge of all time forever and forever...the...oh yeah wait till next year.

I've asked several newly baptised 6.5 acolytes to help me show the complete uselessness of the antiquated .308 Win by simply donning a man dress, walking down range about 800m and then standing there with a stupid look on their face while I hurl hundreds of now ineffective bullets at them. So far no takers. I even offered to buy lunch or call the ambulance in case I mistakenly hit them but all I get is a sour look and muttered profanity. Really scratching my head on this one...I even offered to super size it.

If you're really set on Rem then a 5r cut heavy barrel in a h-s stock is hard to beat. If you are going to suppress or brake the SPS AAC SD is a good place to start. If length is not a factor then check the P model. I like stainless for rough weather and I can alway tone it down with a seasonal camo pattern if need be.

If you're not stuck on Rem then check Savage. They offer quite a few sub moa rifles that can be configured for your needs.

I prefer Tikka for out of the box accuracy and reliability. They are priced a little higher but don't need many if any performance upgrades like the others.

Good luck on your search and good hunting.

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P.S. Just ordered a Tikka T3x TAC A1 with a 24in barrel in 7.62x51 NATO. Gonna top it with an old fashioned Nightforce NXS 5.5-22x56 with Zero Stop. Yeah not real sexy but should get the job done. Sales guy looked disappointed when I turned down the 6.5 in the display case...
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A vssf2 in 308 would be a great way to learn long range shooting until you get enough experience to really justify a bigger cartridge and a custom rifle. Plus, you will probably still have a barrel and shoulder leftwhen you get there.
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