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No Call of Duty back then. How did people learn anything?

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Some of them still had to practice rugged individualism to survive. Nowadays "Minutemen" are primarily LARPer's that chose not to serve in the military. Everyone wants to be in the Infantry until it's time to do Infantry SH*&.
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Some of them still had to practice rugged individualism to survive. Nowadays "Minutemen" are primarily LARPer's that chose not to serve in the military. Everyone wants to be in the Infantry until it's time to do Infantry SH*&.
Meh - there are lots of reasons not to serve in the military, even if you're a patriot. Military service, in itself, doesn't make us better than anyone else. But acting like it does kinda makes one a ****head.

21 years in this month, with 9 deployments. It's only one way among many to serve the country.
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Meh - there are lots of reasons not to serve in the military, even if you're a patriot. Military service, in itself, doesn't make us better than anyone else. But acting like it does kinda makes one a ****head.



21 years in this month, with 9 deployments. It's only one way among many to serve the country.
It's the best way, and most honorable, if one isn't prevented or disqualified from service.

I dont look down on people who didn't serve, but I take what service members say and veterans say more to heart, and put more weight into their opinions than others. We often see things differently and see and understand life differently because we can be placed in unique and often scarring experiences that there just isn't a parallel to in the civilian world.

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Meh - there are lots of reasons not to serve in the military, even if you're a patriot. Military service, in itself, doesn't make us better than anyone else. But acting like it does kinda makes one a ****head.

21 years in this month, with 9 deployments. It's only one way among many to serve the country.
You are absolutely right because even most current members of the armed forces, veterans, and first responders would not perform their roles without government pay, government indemnity, and government approval. Takes those three things away and they will as a whole stay home on the couch along with the rest of America.

True patriotism is dead.
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More like this. Because that NV is full of it.
Yea, I know, but I blame it on the protein shakes.
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It's the best way, and most honorable, if one isn't prevented or disqualified from service.
Again, meh. It's a very honorable way, but it's part of a larger system and there would be nothing to serve if others weren't also doing their honorable parts. And at the end of the day, the military has good people and bad people, *******s and nice folks, the best and sometimes the worst leaders, etc.

And even for the people who join out of a sense of service itself, a lot of them stay simply because they like going to war, or because they like being part of something very concrete that's bigger than themselves. "It's all about the man next to you," said Hoot.

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I dont look down on people who didn't serve, but I take what service members say and veterans say more to heart, and put more weight into their opinions than others. We often see things differently and see and understand life differently because we can be placed in unique and often scarring experiences that there just isn't a parallel to in the civilian world.
Can't disagree with the second part. On the first part, I take what they say more seriously on certain topics. Getting a little sand in your boots doesn't mean I'll defer to you on political ideology, or the best form of governance, or religion and faith, or parenting, etc.

Or, frankly, issues of militias or Minutemen...the topic of this thread. Unless you're a Green Beret or a few select other career fields, or have direct experience working with them, most military members don't know anything about it beyond modern infantry tactics.
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You are absolutely right because even most current members of the armed forces, veterans, and first responders would not perform their roles without government pay, government indemnity, and government approval. Takes those three things away and they will as a whole stay home on the couch along with the rest of America.
Not what I meant, but I can't disagree that it applies to a lot of people. That said, a lot of people ruck up and move out for a pittance of pay compared to the risk...so it certainly doesn't apply to everyone.

Patriotism isn't dead; we've just forgotten what it means as a society. But we will learn again and it won't be fun.
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Again, meh. It's a very honorable way, but it's part of a larger system and there would be nothing to serve if others weren't also doing their honorable parts. And at the end of the day, the military has good people and bad people, *******s and nice folks, the best and sometimes the worst leaders, etc.



And even for the people who join out of a sense of service itself, a lot of them stay simply because they like going to war, or because they like being part of something very concrete that's bigger than themselves. "It's all about the man next to you," said Hoot.







Can't disagree with the second part. On the first part, I take what they say more seriously on certain topics. Getting a little sand in your boots doesn't mean I'll defer to you on political ideology, or the best form of governance, or religion and faith, or parenting, etc.



Or, frankly, issues of militias or Minutemen...the topic of this thread. Unless you're a Green Beret or a few select other career fields, or have direct experience working with them, most military members don't know anything about it beyond modern infantry tactics.
Well a good portion of us aren't random REMFs, so my points still stand.

And don't be difficult for no reason, I obviously wouldn't consult a infantry veteran for legal advice or open heart surgery questions. It doesn't need explaining I am talking about general civic / political / social / survival issues.

And veterans and survivalists in general are the best crowd to discuss minutemen with. People who actually either posses the skills required or have been trained in guerrilla / jungle / mountain warfare etc.



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My wife was a Critical Care ICU nurse in some big trauma hospitals. She saved a lot of lives, more than she would remember if you asked her. Then she got injured at work trying to stop a really obese patient from falling and getting hurt. She can't work any more.

My neighbor is a volunteer EMT and firefighter. During any hour of the day I can hear him ripping down the road, going on another call.

I'm a veteran. The number of lives I've saved during my whole life is zero.

Are their opinions is any less important than that of any veteran? Nah I don't think so.

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My wife was a Critical Care ICU nurse in some big trauma hospitals. She saved a lot of lives, more than she would remember if you asked her. Then she got injured at work trying to stop a really obese patient from falling and getting hurt. She can't work any more.

My neighbor is a volunteer EMT and firefighter. During any hour of the day I can hear him ripping down the road, going on another call.

I'm a veteran. The number of lives I've saved during my whole life is zero.

Are their opinions is any less important than that of any veteran? Nah I don't think so.

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Are we going to just nitpick that statement and come up with anecdotes? Lol.

Lile any other, that statement is not necessarily absolute and exceptions exist for every rule.

I choose to value a veterans voice over others generally speaking. It's a personal choice. Kind of hope we can move on from it lol.

I don't know what it has to do with modern minutemen lol.

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Are we going to just nitpick that statement and come up with anecdotes? Lol.

Lile any other, that statement is not necessarily absolute and exceptions exist for every rule.

I choose to value a veterans voice over others generally speaking. It's a personal choice. Kind of hope we can move on from it lol.

I don't know what it has to do with modern minutemen lol.

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Well I do get it. Veteran = shared experience = instant bonding on a certain level. But people of all important professions will feel the same way (nurses, EMTs, etc).

IDK what it has to do with MM either but I thought you brought it up

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Well I do get it. Veteran = shared experience = instant bonding on a certain level. But people of all important professions will feel the same way (nurses, EMTs, etc).



IDK what it has to do with MM either but I thought you brought it up



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Believe it or not by just serving you saved lives. You may not realize it but standing there where others will not stops very bad men from doing bad things to our countrymen. Just by serving, no matter your MOS you did something that enabled others to save lives.
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Believe it or not by just serving you saved lives. You may not realize it but standing there where others will not stops very bad men from doing bad things to our countrymen. Just by serving, no matter your MOS you did something that enabled others to save lives.
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And don't be difficult for no reason, I obviously wouldn't consult a infantry veteran for legal advice or open heart surgery questions. It doesn't need explaining I am talking about general civic / political / social / survival issues.
Well, it wasn't for no reason. As an example from this post, I see no reason to think an infantryman (or any other military occupation) has more insight into general politics than any other citizen, just because he or she is a vet. Several times I've asked groups of active duty folks if they've actually read the Constitution. I stopped being surprised by the answers. These are people who swore their lives to support and defend the principles and processes in a document they've never actually read.

I think these things are important to a discussion of traditional citizens' militias, for several reasons, but I'm happy to drop it and move on.
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