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Today's "experts" are idiots, just trying to sell a book, supplements, or some such bs.

I'm with you on some, not on others, but what works well for me might not for you, at our age you should have a good idea (if you can remember it! LOL)

Personally I have no desire to stop going for new heights in my lifting. On some lifts I'm stronger than I was in my 30's, others, bench, I'm nowhere near where I once was, but I believe thats in my head.

Your first statement about diets I agree with completely. I could go on and on, but don't want to hijack your thread, so, Thank you.
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Personally I have no desire to stop going for new heights in my lifting. On some lifts I'm stronger than I was in my 30's, others, bench, I'm nowhere near where I once was, but I believe thats in my head.
What Jo said.

I started lifting at 30 and didn't go over 600 in the squat until almost forty years old. I hit my first 400+ pound close grip bench on my 50th birthday. Didn't hit a 555 deadlift until 57 years old.

I expressed fear of getting older affecting my lifting to my doc. His response? As long as you have the hunger to keep getting stronger, you will. I'm still hungry.
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What Jo said.

I started lifting at 30 and didn't go over 600 in the squat until almost forty years old. I hit my first 400+ pound close grip bench on my 50th birthday. Didn't hit a 555 deadlift until 57 years old.

I expressed fear of getting older affecting my lifting to my doc. His response? As long as you have the hunger to keep getting stronger, you will. I'm still hungry.
I've never known anyone who started serious lifting that late in life and stuck with it. Most tried too hard to lift too much and wound up with joint injuries or hemorrhoids. The rest couldn't function without instant gratification, which isn't an element of any fitness regime.
My examples of how not to live when you get older came from at least a dozen guys who were twenty or thirty years older than me when they retired and were dead within a few years. But then again, other than the guys from my gym and a few others, I've known very few people who maintained any kind of fitness program at all.
I stopped once on a Sunday to help a guy about my age, around forty, change a tire on his van. He had a wife and three or four kids in the van, and wasn't strong enough to lift the spare out of the well in the back of the van. The spare couldn't have weighed more than twenty or thirty pounds.
Scared me so bad that I didn't miss a workout for the next two years.
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Obviously there are different strokes for different folks . In my 40's I ran 40 miles a week , Sat was a 10 miler . 3 days a week I ran to and from the Y -2.5 miles each way - and worked out for an hour . Fast forward to now , I walk 5 miles a day and will be 82 in July . Worked for me . PS I still do not HURT and that makes a lot of things possible for me . Just lucky I guess .
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Today's "experts" are idiots, just trying to sell a book, supplements, or some such bs.

I'm with you on some, not on others, but what works well for me might not for you, at our age you should have a good idea (if you can remember it! LOL)

Personally I have no desire to stop going for new heights in my lifting. On some lifts I'm stronger than I was in my 30's, others, bench, I'm nowhere near where I once was, but I believe thats in my head.

Your first statement about diets I agree with completely. I could go on and on, but don't want to hijack your thread, so, Thank you.
I think definitely "strong man" kinds of exercises are beneficial to men over 40. It's a practical form of muscle strength and requires joint mobility at the same time.
I'm currently in the process of going back to square 1 and getting flexible enough to do squats and overhead press with good form so I won't injure myself (again) trying to lift heavier weights. When I get more shoulder flexibility then I'll reassess what type of training I want to do.

I have a trainer who is useful, but I have to keep reminding him that my goals are not his goals. Of course he wants to increase the weight I'm lifting every workout to show some "data" on a graph that I've improved, but my focus is currently on form, balance, flexibility and mobility and unfortunately the fitness industry often doesn't even care about that stuff and hasn't established ways to measure progress in those areas. It's a pity because I think everyone needs those areas 1st and foremost, but instead they get pushed into lifting heavy with bad form and the result is injury.
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I agree, some of the "form" I've seen makes me cringe, and this is coming for so called "Certified" trainers!

I used to compete in Strongman Competitions, I stopped because the lifts were damaging. They were safe, as in the way they were done, etc., but damaging in that they were using excessively heavy weights for minuscule range of motion causing joint damage.

I admit, I am a heavy weight junkie, I love heavy weights, always have, and as soon as I am recovered, I will again. The thing is though, that I am the only one pushing, I don't give a rats arse about trainers, charts, etc..
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Lots of people draw the line at 7 lol.

These aren't commandments - just what I have found to be helpful. Pick or choose which work for you.

The reason I included it:
Low testosterone is a major problem with a huge percentage of the male population over 40 and moreso over 50. It affects so many areas of well being and quality of life.
Many men think the answer to low T is to go to a doctor to get Testosterone supplementation. I think getting the right woman in my bed on a regular basis is a better solution. At least for me and many men.
Sure it's sometimes not a possibility but in those cases I'd say sure, masturbate. I fully understand the difficulty of finding the right woman so in those cases I'd say try to develop a professional relationship with a courtesan (not a prostitute - the distinction is significant) and visit her as often as is practical.

Testosterone is literally a sexual hormone. To try and maintain testosterone in middle age without addressing the difference between masturbation and intercourse / coitus is problematic.

Or just disregard #7
It is also muscle building.
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Today's "experts" are idiots, just trying to sell a book, supplements, or some such bs.

I'm with you on some, not on others, but what works well for me might not for you, at our age you should have a good idea (if you can remember it! LOL)

Personally I have no desire to stop going for new heights in my lifting. On some lifts I'm stronger than I was in my 30's, others, bench, I'm nowhere near where I once was, but I believe thats in my head.

Your first statement about diets I agree with completely. I could go on and on, but don't want to hijack your thread, so, Thank you.
I think definitely "strong man" kinds of exercises are beneficial to men over 40. It's a practical form of muscle strength and requires joint mobility at the same time.
I'm currently in the process of going back to square 1 and getting flexible enough to do squats and overhead press with good form so I won't injure myself (again) trying to lift heavier weights. When I get more shoulder flexibility then I'll reassess what type of training I want to do.

I have a trainer who is useful, but I have to keep reminding him that my goals are not his goals. Of course he wants to increase the weight I'm lifting every workout to show some "data" on a graph that I've improved, but my focus is currently on form, balance, flexibility and mobility and unfortunately the fitness industry often doesn't even care about that stuff and hasn't established ways to measure progress in those areas. It's a pity because I think everyone needs those areas 1st and foremost, but instead they get pushed into lifting heavy with bad form and the result is injury.
Potentially look at a competition lifting coach?

Because technique is what makes the difference there.
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I am also back to weight training again. Not so much to build bulk but to maintain muscle mass and mobility. The related cardio is also very effective. Lighter weight. Lots of reps. I've only been back at it for a couple of weeks but feel better already.
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Potentially look at a competition lifting coach?

Because technique is what makes the difference there.
Had one many moons ago, when I was competing, but that was another lifetime it seems.
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