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So Human Rights Watch recently published details about China's Draconian surveillance tech (a long and scary read):

https://www.hrw.org/report/2019/05/0...s-surveillance

Someone wants to bring that tech to Australia:

https://www.theepochtimes.com/chinas...a_2898104.html

If people don't get vocal, this garbage will continue expanding across the world. Govco loves their mass surveillance and social control.
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I bet Don'tbuypottery loves the idea of the tech coming to his country....he LOVES government controll. Pretty soon they will be coming for your boomerangs!
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Now that's some scary crap. I wonder why people don't see it for what it is.

On a side note, China is nobody's friend. You probably know they are making huge loans for infrastructure in developing and poor countries (some in South America). Read an article and saw a video that said those lones come with some nasty strings which in the end winds up with China owning large portions of countries when they can't pay back the loan with interest. I think they are about to own all of Sri Lanka. People/countries need ro wake up..
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So Human Rights Watch recently published details about China's Draconian surveillance tech (a long and scary read):

https://www.hrw.org/report/2019/05/0...s-surveillance

Someone wants to bring that tech to Australia:

https://www.theepochtimes.com/chinas...a_2898104.html

If people don't get vocal, this garbage will continue expanding across the world. Govco loves their mass surveillance and social control.
The original linked source is behind a paywall (convenient ) and some of the infrastructure already in place in Australia is already in place in the US. Rural budget restricted counties in USA have lots of Chinese surveillance and communications tech both in public and private sectors.
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The original linked source is behind a paywall (convenient ) ...
Which link is behind a paywall?
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The original linked source is behind a paywall (convenient ) and some of the infrastructure already in place in Australia is already in place in the US. Rural budget restricted counties in USA have lots of Chinese surveillance and communications tech both in public and private sectors.
I can get to both links no problem.
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Which link is behind a paywall?
The original quoted source NT News https://www.ntnews.com.au/subscribe/...s&mode=premium


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Officials on the Darwin council traveled to Shenzhen, according to NT News, to “have a chance to see exactly how their Smart Technology works prior to being fully rolled out.”
https://www.theepochtimes.com/chinas...a_2898104.html

Despite Australia buying Chinese coms and CCTV tech and Chinese snooping I also have a low confidence in the substance of this particular article given that it’s from a Falun Gong outlet.
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from NT news

Council to return to Shenzhen for final assessments as Smart City project comes to an end
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Darwin council will have a chance to see exactly how their Smart Technology works prior to it being fully rolled out, with a final trip to China next month.

The trip will cost approximately $23,000 and will see 5-6 representatives return to Shenzhen for a Smart City Forum as well as to return to Guangzhou and Haikou from May 8 to May 17 but still needs to be approved by council at tomorrow night’s meeting.

The forum is expected to attract 300 to 400 global visitors.

DARWIN to build future on smart technology based on cities in China and Taiwan

OPINION: Darwin council has good intentions with Smart Cities project


Council will see how it all pans out before it is unrolled, thanks to a second trip to Shenzhen but will use the system to suit Darwin.

“(That’ll be) to dive into their Smart City platform, all their heading information on their tech, where it comes into a platform where they digest the data and then share it with the community,” Mr Sattler said.

“We get to pop the hood and see what their Smart City platform looks like, how they integrate information.”

Mr Sattler said the final trip would allow council to distinguish how Darwin uses the technology in the most suitable way.

“They’re fundamentally all integrated and connected because they’ve got a big population,” he said.

“We want to be connected for efficiency.”

Council will also have a number of visiting delegations with the Taipei deputy mayor indicating his desire to visit Darwin once the system was in place.

“That’s the next step for us, we’ve done a lot of outbound (travel) … but therein lies the next step, with bringing these guys in that we’ve spoken to, to come in and have a look at what we’ve done,” he said.

“We don’t want to get to a point where we flatline, we want to be looking at what we can do next.”

Council first visited the three cities in late November last year.
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From the other linked articles it seems the system relies on people using the publicly available wifi towers. So if you leech on the council wifi, your usage is analysed to see what you are using it for. No surprise there, public wifi is not secure.
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The original quoted source NT News https://www.ntnews.com.au/subscribe/...s&mode=premium


From the Epoch times article:

https://www.theepochtimes.com/chinas...a_2898104.html

Despite Australia buying Chinese coms and CCTV tech and Chinese snooping I also have a low confidence in the substance of this particular article given that it’s from a Falun Gong outlet.
The only people on Earth that have a problem with Falun Gong is the Chinese government. So I assume you are working for the Chinese government.
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The only people on Earth that have a problem with Falun Gong is the Chinese government.
I don’t have a problem with the Falun Gong but they do lean with a heavy bias on China news such as the following article where I am sure you will sympathise with plight of the incarcerated.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/china-...s_2908698.html
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So I assume you are working for the Chinese government.
Whats your logic behind that one.
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I don’t have a problem with the Falun Gong but they do lean with a heavy bias on China news such as the following article where I am sure you will sympathise with plight of the incarcerated.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/china-...s_2908698.htmlWhats your logic behind that one.
You said you didn't believe any news coming from a Falun Gong outlet.
I assume this means you don't like them.
The only people that dislike them are the Chinese government, (for whatever bizarre reason).
Therefore, I assume you are with the chinese government.

Pretty simple logic, now explained in detail twice.

Not sure why you brought up muslims.

The Falun Gong are simply people that practice a form of meditation exercise, like Tai Chi.
Not sure why, but the Chinese government hates them. Maybe they meditate too loudly.

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So Human Rights Watch recently published details about China's Draconian surveillance tech (a long and scary read):

https://www.hrw.org/report/2019/05/0...s-surveillance

Someone wants to bring that tech to Australia:

https://www.theepochtimes.com/chinas...a_2898104.html

If people don't get vocal, this garbage will continue expanding across the world. Govco loves their mass surveillance and social control.

We've had it here in the USA since at least 9/11. Just wait until 5G floods our cities. We may as well kiss the 4A goodbye. We can rename the movie - "1984" > 2020.


"Vocal" ain't gonna cut it.
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You said you didn't believe any news coming from a Falun Gong outlet.
I assume this means you don't like them.
The only people that dislike them are the Chinese government, (for whatever bizarre reason).
Therefore, I assume you are with the chinese government.

Pretty simple logic, now explained in detail twice.

Not sure why you brought up muslims.

The Falun Gong are simply people that practice a form of mediation exercise, like Tai Chi.
Not sure why, but the Chinese government hates them. Maybe they meditate too loudly.
I actually wrote that I had a low confidence in rather than didn’t believe this outlet as its raison d'Ítre is to undermine the Chinese Communist Party at every turn. I am comfortable with the Chinese Communist Party being undermined but trust in the instrument of attack I do not.

Maybe your logic is too simple.
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I actually wrote that I had a low confidence in rather than didnít believe this outlet as its raison d'Ítre is to undermine the Chinese Communist Party at every turn. I am comfortable with the Chinese Communist Party being undermined but trust in the instrument of attack I do not.

Maybe your logic is too simple.
So that's a "Yes" on you working for the Chinese government?
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WRT the Epoch Times: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epoch_Times
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