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Some onions sprouted too well, so DW did some transplanting:




Still waiting for Spring.
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A friend's friend's friend made us deal on 22 Peking duck eggs, so we're making a run before we hatch our own eggs to become quart jar chickens. This is our Brinsea Octagon 20 Advanced incubator...our useful valentines gift.

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The worm farm is in the basement. I was thinking if putting some red worms into the seed trays. Anybody try that?
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Our ducks on the 5th day.



The other 21 look similar, but were camera shy.
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The worm farm is in the basement. I was thinking if putting some red worms into the seed trays. Anybody try that?
I've never tried it since I grow my seedlings in small pots. I do have worms in the garden. What benefit are you trying to derive?
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I was thinking to gain happy healthy bacteria relationships. And cleanup (instead of molding) of any leaves that drop. I don't think the worms will eat living growing plants, only dead stuff.
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I think they eat roots. They serve in a garden to aerate the soil and help to break down organic matter, which you probably already know. I'm not sure they'd serve a purpose in such a small area as your seedling trays but hey, you can try. You might hit on something good and useful.
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Day 8.... so far, all 22 looking the same



The cold goes faster when there is something to mark the passage of time.
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A few days of catching up....

Plotting the weight loss per duck egg revealed a few that were different.

Egg #9 has lost a lot more weight than it's siblings. This egg had a small crack in it. We decided to candle every egg and see if weight loss and contents had any relationship.... and the answer is 'no'. Only #9 looked 'solidified' with no motion or visible structure, so '9' went into the garbage. We had started with 1 egg with a crack, so, I'll never bother with that again.

Here is a short video of the life form moving within

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(the sound is from two cats enjoying the food to keep them distracted and out of the picture)
I'm not sure how to post a video link, so it will appear in a preview box like the people do with youtube videos. Thoughts?

Our barred rock rooster proclaims his love for his 10 girls. They were all bought as chicks from Murray McMurray last June.

One girl has been very broody, which is a trait we want to encourage... Even though the snow is still deep, we're going to take a chance that spring will be here enough for a hatch in 21 days.... so, we're going to let her sit on 8 eggs. 10 seemed to stick out too much from under her; I recall a thread where all the eggs failed and the poster feared it was they had too many under the bird. We marked them so we can sort out any new ones that get slipped under her.

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cardoon (Gobbo Di Nizzia)

Cardoon is like artichoke, but you use the stems (like celery)

vit / mache (Corn Salad)

Leaves are a succulent, firm and dark green, delicious and substantial greens. So says Territorial Seeds.

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The broody Partridge Rock hasn't been consistent about sitting, so we'll retake the eggs and wait a few more weeks.

I know that once the egg begins to develop, cold will kill it. What is your experience about this:
a) fertile eggs stored in the fridge, and then incubated, will they hatch?
b) fertile eggs froze for a day, and then incubated, will they hatch?
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The broody Partridge Rock hasn't been consistent about sitting, so we'll retake the eggs and wait a few more weeks.

I know that once the egg begins to develop, cold will kill it. What is your experience about this:
a) fertile eggs stored in the fridge, and then incubated, will they hatch?
b) fertile eggs froze for a day, and then incubated, will they hatch?
I'm very interested in this myself. My guess is that fertile eggs stored in the fridge for too long wouldn't hatch, and certainly not frozen eggs. Unfortunately, I haven't tried this experiment myself.
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Did some internet searching, found this thread:
http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/13...-eggs-hatching
which indicates some hatched, but they did not mention how many went in. Still looking for a little more scientific data.
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The ducks are moving along. Found another that was 'liquidity', so, it's in the garbage.
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b) fertile eggs froze for a day, and then incubated, will they hatch?
Highly unlikely. Freezing creates ice crystals that will rupture the cell membranes.

Cool temps, like a cellar or fridge would be fine for a while. A couple weeks is usually where survival rates start to drop off rapidly.
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I got my seeds going yesterday, looking forward to comparing growth! Keep up the good work
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Our ducks have begun their pipping yesterday. After the last candling, 20 of the original 22 eggs looked promising. Based on comments on other hatching threads, we knew we had too many eggs wedged together (I had expected more duds). We bought a 2nd incubator from TSC (still air) on sale for ~$35 to spread the eggs out for The Hatching Event.





We stand ready to assist, but are expecting nature to direct the show. Any suggestion on how long the breakout should take? This is our first batch.
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ok, these are NOT the ducks we are hatching. TSC was selling +week old ducklings for $1. We cleaned them out, and they tossed in this baby chick that was being pecked by the others. Seems to think it's a duckling.... going to be in for a surprise when they go swimming.
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Bottling weekend... two 5 gal batches of Pilsner ready to carry into the basement. Two more of wheat beer to go... then, I'm ready for summer, once the last 3 inches of snow melts!



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17 have hatched in the 12 hours since the first emergence, which is 24 hours since first pip. Not counting the cracked egg, we're at 81% of the 21 reasonable eggs.




As expected, we noticed the chicks in the still air incubator
http://www.tractorsupply.com/en/stor...-air-incubator
were slow to dry. So, we shuttled the wet ones into the Brinsea for blow drying.

I suppose we could have piled up the non-pipped eggs to create space with the risk of drying out if we opened it too many times. Once the first few chicks hatched, the humidity went into the high 70%'s. We opened the vent to drop it into the 60%'s to help with the drying.

We also shuffled the happy older chicks into the brooder cage to keep down the traffic congestion.





http://www.brinsea.com/products/octagon20A.html
Although the Brinsea Octagon 20 is listed for 20 large eggs, we are so glad to see in other threads the reminder that the chicks need space between the eggs for exiting.

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Default duck egg hatch rate (science project)

For those needing food for thought on science project ideas for kids, here is the weight loss for the 22 duck eggs up through day 17. Presented as 'grams' lost and as a percentage of original weight.

Red egg #9 had a crack in the shell, red #15 looked liquified during candling; those 2 were pitched earlier.
The 'purple' eggs (8,11,17) never hatched after 28 days (and then we gave them another 2 days just in case).
18 & 22 were the two photographed earlier in this thread.



We didn't clean or wash the eggs.

So the question for those budding scientists: can hatch rate be predicted by weight loss?

I would have grabbed another set of weights just before pipping had I thought of the science project aspect. With this data, I'd say the failed eggs are associated with higher weight loss. But, high weight loss does not cause a failed hatch (because there are some with big losses like #3 that hatched out) ....next time.
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