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Old 01-17-2020, 10:21 PM
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https://www.newswars.com/breaking-mi...ough-jan-24th/

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The NVG thing sounds pretty fishy. The .Gov has tons of night vision stuff already on hand and grabbing a couple hundred "tubes" which aren't even usable by themselves doesn't make sense.

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Denial would be the reason.... If real.

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I'm in SW Florida and tonight (Saturday am) my GPS is working awesome.
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Watch the Alex Jones video on that page. He looks more deranged every time I see him. That's too bad. I really liked him several years ago.
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The exercise in question has been scheduled for a long time. Has nothing to do with VA. From my understanding GPS not working, if it is affected, would only affect planes.
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The exercise in question has been scheduled for a long time. Has nothing to do with VA. From my understanding GPS not working, if it is affected, would only affect planes.
If they scramble the signal from the GPS satellites there is no way for it to only affect certain receivers. It's all or nothing.
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If they scramble the signal from the GPS satellites there is no way for it to only affect certain receivers. It's all or nothing.
I though that to. However,evidently they arent scrambling the signal from the source, they are sending out some kind of signal that is only at a certain altitude that would block GPS.

I could easily be wrong. This is what I have read from people talking about this.
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Steve is correct. If you spoof GPS in an area, it will affect all GPS in range. I don't believe it will be purposely done, at least in secret, and certainly not by the government, for the following reason:

During the last 25 years, the FAA has been trying to get out of the earth-station based air navigation business. Reason? Annual maintenance cost for VOR land based for point to point air navigation, and ILS radio transmitter (Instrument Landing System) maintenance is costing over 1$billion a year. GPS, using space based satellites do the job far better and at lower cost.

For years now, nearly all aircraft have been using GPS for both en-route and terminal approach to landing procedures. They have been so successful, entirely new navigation techniques have been developed which depend on GPS. When flying enroute, for example, they now fly 10 aircraft in the same physical space as earth based systems only allowed 2. Systems such as TCAS (Collision Avoidance) use GPS positions and altitude as a basis of allowing aircraft to approach MUCH closer than most people realize as they fly along having their super expensive diet drinks. Many of the other new systems, ADS-B for example, depend on accurate GPS position and altitude to function correctly.

If a decision was made to turn off (or "spoof") GPS, all of the aircraft in the area would be effected and to possibly devastating results. The Pilots would know that the system had gone totally off, but would NOT know if it was simply sending the wrong data. They have multiple GPS units, and all units would be showing the same. Some aircraft, with multiple redundant navaids would know pretty quickly - others would not.

In GPS positioning, a 100 foot error at 40,000 feet isn't a big deal. When terminating an approach into DC during a snow storm, 100 feet and you miss the runway.

In EMP parlance, think of the airborne GPS as the power infrastructure of landlines. Having it go down would be a really bad thing.

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My GPS has been wacky a lot the last few months here on Long Island. I will be head West on the LIE and it says NE or something like that. I was heading south from the VA hospital and it said I was traveling NE the changed to NW. LOL
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I though that to. However,evidently they arent scrambling the signal from the source, they are sending out some kind of signal that is only at a certain altitude that would block GPS.

I could easily be wrong. This is what I have read from people talking about this.
It is certainly possible that they are just screwing up the signal in specific zones like you say.

They do this full time around sensitive locations. I think they basically subvert the WAAS system (wide area augmentation system), that used to be a way to make GPS more accurate around locally installed transmitters. It would know the precise location of the transmitter and would generate a "correction" signal, back when GPS was only accurate to 100 meters or so, to get 1 meter accuracy.

but if their local augmentation transmitter broadcasts a hugely wrong correction signal, it would render GPS in that specific area useless.

I read a while back that they actually have to take Einstein's Time dilation theory into account for the ultra precise clocks on the GPS satellites.
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My GPS has been wacky a lot the last few months here on Long Island. I will be head West on the LIE and it says NE or something like that. I was heading south from the VA hospital and it said I was traveling NE the changed to NW. LOL
If you are driving past an important airport, factory or dam, etc, You will see your GPS all of a sudden indicate your location is miles away from where you actually are.

Denies use of the system by an enemy to direct their missiles.
of course they all have their own GPS system now. Russian Glonass and the Chinese are in the process of bringing their system online.
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I dont have geocached supplies. Im not going to be calling in arty or airstikes. I use a compass in the woods. This wouldnt affect me.
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Denies use of the system by an enemy to direct their missiles.
of course they all have their own GPS system now. Russian Glonass and the Chinese are in the process of bringing their system online.
The Russian GLONASS system has been online for at least a couple of years. I use it with my Garmin GPS unit. When I combined the USA GPS system with the Russian GLONASS system, the accuracy when locating a waypoint went from about 10 to 15 feet to about 4 or 5 feet. That's a scary thought when it comes to an enemy using it to direct their missiles.
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Watch the Alex Jones video on that page. He looks more deranged every time I see him. That's too bad. I really liked him several years ago.
Take Alex Jones with a grain of salt but I don't dismiss him completely.

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Says jamming effects all of Florida as well. They may be making an attempt to take out Trump.
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Says jamming effects all of Florida as well. They may be making an attempt to take out Trump.
When I wanna take someone out I just buy flowers. President Trump certainly deserves some flowers.
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Zerohedge is reporting the same thing.
WTF?
Making my Spidey Senses tingle.
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I'm in Florida and when I had my lifted jeep out earlier my gps worked. Its my speedometer so I check it often.
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I dont have geocached supplies. Im not going to be calling in arty or airstikes. I use a compass in the woods. This wouldnt affect me.
Unless you have no contact wirh , and depend upon no one else for anything (and because your reading this That is not the case)

It affects you.
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