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Old 09-02-2009, 02:25 PM
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Hi Everyone,

I am new here. I found this image today, and was wondering just how practical it would/could possibly be.

Any thoughts on construction or improvements? Digging?

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1)That shelter would have been for small conventional explosives only... world war 1? American civil war?
2)Far too small an area to keep your sanity & any stores.
3)Entrance is too small and close to the ground.
4)If the shelter was for chemical or radiation, the design of the entrance and the vent / chimney? Would easily allow contamination of the air and people inside.
5)I slept in and need to go to work.
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Cheers for your feedback.
I guess I was kind of assuming chemical or radiation weren't going to be issues in New Zealand. Was thinking of it more as just a place in the bush where you could hide out temporarily. Maybe not so temporarily if you had a network of these for storage, cooking, sleeping etc.
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looks like a kids fort with brush piled on top instead of being underground.
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If you made it to last make a few of them around your area, use them as bug out spots if you need to hide in a hurry. Put basic supplies in them for emergencies. It wouldn't make a long term dwelling but I think as an emergency shelter its perfect, being under turf it would maintain a comfortable temp.

You could use this idea and expanned on it and have a whole bunch of rooms connecting to each other. Use modern materials and you can make the tunnels and the rooms bigger.
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This idea is sound, and has its uses. Maybe not as a main bug-in location, but perfect for other uses, like a relay point along your path, or for a remote location to regroup. I copied it myself for future reference. Good find OP
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I have been thinking of building a small underground bunker just for sleeping to reduce the need for heat in the winter and also reduce the smoke from a constant heating fire which discloses your (prepared) location.
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I like it. Could be pretty sweet, make the walls out of corrugated iron over the wooden frame, insulate with polystyrene and you'd be sweet. Not that hard to carry because corrugated iron and polystyrene are light comparitively. The hardest bit would be the earth moving IMO.
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I like it. Could be pretty sweet, make the walls out of corrugated iron over the wooden frame, insulate with polystyrene and you'd be sweet. Not that hard to carry because corrugated iron and polystyrene are light comparitively. The hardest bit would be the earth moving IMO.
using an insulated, reinforced cargo container would be simpler and quicker to bury.
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using an insulated, reinforced cargo container would be simpler and quicker to bury.
and substantially more difficult to get into a remote location in the NZ bush.
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Dirt wants to settle and you're creating a void inwhich the earth will push on the walls eventually destroying it.

Don't forget the vapor barrier.
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and substantially more difficult to get into a remote location in the NZ bush.
Tube steel, metal decking and a welder. Instant cargo container just add sweat.
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In New England the hardest part would be digging the rocks out of the hole in which to bury the shelter.

As for corrugated iron, that will rust. I suggest corrugated fiberglass.

Burying a cargo container is not an option for many of us.
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keep in mind that when you are not there, much of the native wildlife (snakes, spiders, mammals, etc) would enjoy this nice little shelter as much as you do.

so any vents need to be topped with fine mesh and entry points raised of the ground in such a way only humans may enter.
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i have a great interest in long-term underground shelters and have designed quite a few - from single to multi-person use

once i get a scanner ill try and post my ideas
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Like others have said, looks small for main bug out location, but a great stop over or meeting place.
Especially one for "public lands" if it could be built fast ....
hmmm there's a thought ... like an underground railroad of sorts.
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And it never hurts to have a few hidey holes out there for the unexpected.
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I am researching good suppliers of equipment for constructing a long term underground shelter or bunker. Does anyone know if there are any suppliers of blast doors and air filters, as well as all of the other things needed for the construction of this type of shelter?
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I got mine from here:

http://versatiletanks.com.au/

Speak to Dee, very helpful. The tank I got was 22 500 litre and it was around $7000 - $8000 plus the cost of the hole and the crane.

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I love the wooden structure with the candles for light :-)

All joking aside, not a bad little plan though. i'd sure have loved one as a kid.
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