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Bikes are greatly underrated and ignored as transportation in the US -- unlike nearly the entire rest of the world.

I don't know what "at my age" means for walking or biking - because people vary greatly in their ability and willingness to do either - but I will mention that cycling is a skill -- and the notion that once you learn you never forget is really nonsense. Cycling is perishable both as a skill and as an ability; both aspects require frequent practice.

Another factor is that the bike needs to be properly fitted to you (NOT vice versa!), properly adjusted, and well maintained. It is possible that you found a great bike on Craig's List, that you made sure it fitted you well, and that you have inspected, adjusted, and maintained the bike thoroughly since buying it -- but statistically I would doubt all of those things.

A good BO/GH bike does not need to cost a thousand dollars, you actually CAN find one on Craig's List or at WallyWorld, although the selection is certainly better at a decent bike shop.

Depending on the terrain, a "cruiser" may be a better choice than an "mountain bike" - and a hybrid might be better that either. One thing I would highly recommend would be choosing a bike with disk brakes instead of rim brakes. Disk brakes used to be rare on entry level bikes, but they are becoming more common. The biggest advantage is that disk brakes work even when wet (albeit not quite as well) but traditional rim brakes are nearly useless when wet -- plus the rim brakes will get wet simply from passing through a puddle while disk brakes generally only get wet in significant rain (or trying to cross a stream more than a foot deep).

Lighter weight is touted as a great benefit of more expensive bikes -- but lighter weight is not likely to be much of a benefit to you unless your situation is almost entirely on pavement and requires a lot of uphill climbing or carrying your bike over obstacles.
I couldn't agree with you more that bikes are underrated in America apparently most survivalist haven't heard of the Ho Chi Minh Trail we could set up the same type of system after an EMP to move food and supplies
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I couldn't agree with you more that bikes are underrated in America apparently most survivalist haven't heard of the Ho Chi Minh Trail we could set up the same type of system after an EMP to move food and supplies
Probably one of the best ever examples of what can be achieved given that in some cases each bike was reputed to be carrying/wheeling upwards of 200-300 pounds in weight
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I'm sorry, but IMO, this is a recipe for trouble.

Don't wanna walk at your age? Okay, how about taking a tumble off of a bike at your age? And before you think about how careful and steady you are, remember, the WHOLE IDEA hinges on the assumption that people will leave you alone to ride where and as you please.

You are totally vulnerable on a bike. Totally. Unlike a car, it takes both hands and both feet in constant use. A guy with a stick takes you down. A guy that simply grabs your arm takes you down. A guy with a bat takes you down, takes your bike, and you don't get up. Oh sure, you can be vulnerable in a car or on foot, but the former is not vulnerable to sticks and bats and the latter is not a target in the first place.

IMO, it makes taking a rough walk look easy.

Hiking to your BOL might require a day or two of recuperation, but riding a bike to your BOL might be something you never recover from. Just sayin....


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It's important to think about all this stuff, but it doesn't really add up to a reason to dismiss a bike. Too clever by half.

Militaries have used bikes--- one of the first German offensives in WWII was a LOT of guys using bikes in Denmark. They were successful. Also, police use bikes sometimes. It's not anything that cutting-edge anymore.

You can get around a LOT faster and easier on a bike than when walking. That's often a tactical technique--- if you can get through an area more quickly, all else being equal, it gives the enemy less chance to detect you. Lives could definitely be saved during the get-home situation because the potential victims just weren't around long enough for the badguys to show up and see them.

There are people training commandos to do J-turns to escape angry mobs, just in case you end up in just the right, narrow kind of situation when you need it... If the spec warfare community knows that's the right thing to spend time and money teaching to people to do with a car, then it certainly seems that bikes could be useful for that. Imagine having to flee a mob of zombies during the get-home situation. You definitely might be able to escape them on a bicycle, at times when they would have caught you on foot.

A bike doesn't have all the advantages of being on foot, but it has its advantages. People with bikes have definitely made some progress beyond the caveman.
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You are no more vulnerable on a bike than any sort of motorcycle.

Just make sure that, even more than every day use, you make safety your number one concern. You need to wear gloves, a helmet, and any other protective gear you can. You need to ride at a consistent but not too fast pace. You need to keep in mind what things like wearing a pack will do on hills.

My mountain bike is decked out as a possible BOV.
If you HAD to pass through an area, for some reason, where a lot of potential enemies were standing around-- if the place was thick with them-- then it would make sense to not be on the bike.

As an intermediate measure, you could walk the bike. If the place was so thick with people / they looked so dangerous that even walking the bike seemed not good enough, then you could stash it. At least the bugout / get-home bike might have benefited you a lot, up to that point.
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Out here where we are at it is a great choice for seasonal riding and exercise too. Very low profile and under the radar whether in cycling gear or civilian clothes as here you blend. Also with a large transient and homeless population the bike blends in or can with that group also further helping you be a more of greyman or persons.
I have a bike to ride for 100 plus miles or for serious rides like STP and a mtn bike and then a training bike, I also have a beater granny looking grocery getter for heading into down town or the slums! So that way I can select the bike as needed to be less noticed and it is fun to ride, for us anyways. The kids love it too and it is exercise.
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https://youtu.be/GwpxhakBbrQ
https://youtu.be/OXYo-Qc1Evw
Something like this is worth considering if you are only going to have 1 bike or maybe upgrading to a new bike? This was something I was considering and I have no opinion on these as I don't own one, but I like the idea of a folding bike for a BOV.
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Cheap dahon folding bikes are faster than walking but slower than a mountain bike which in turn is slower than a cross bike or touring one. The one i had also had terrible band brakes that almost instantly faded out on a hill.
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How about a DIY Recumbent Tricycle?? Mother Earth News has one on their page at https://www.motherearthnews.com/diy/...e-zmaz83mjzraw

Then there's relatively cheap plans available from this website https://www.atomiczombie.com/plans/ for making a bunch of different recumbents.
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