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Im considering learning it or Krav Maga. I know there are alot of Krav fans here but i cant find a school close to me
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I have not trained in hapkido but it is a good alternative to krav, given the various techniques employed...

it is a mash up of, japanese jujitsu (joint locks/small circle stuff) (not the gracie stuff) judo, (throws/grappling) tae kwon do (kicks/punching) ...

the only issue i envision is the length of time to become more or less proficient, this is where a decent krav school has the advantage, as krav is designed to have a steep but short learning curve, given its original role and background from military combatives to teach soldiers simple, functional, brutal and effecient skills in a short time frame...

I have trained in Krav, Judo, Muay Thai and .mil stuff back in the 80's. but always come back to krav...

however, go train, learn what you can, cherry pick the tools for your toolbox, and drive on....

'tis better to have a good plan executed today than a perfect plan next week....
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Thanks for your response. Ibwas told that the reason Krav schools are difficult to find is because of liability issues. Meaning the school gets in leagal trouble of you kick someone's butt
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^^then the school has lousy policy policies and poor attorneys to write exclusions and disclaimers.

The Krav school i go to here in Charlotte makes it very clear that this is hands on and the potential for injury is there and everyone signs an iron clad waiver.

Now, that does not mean we beat the **** out of each other but we do spar/fight/grapple/choke/etc...

When we use weapons like training knives and sticks, **** happens sometimes...

I have various injuries as a result, some permanent broken knuckles and a busted knee cap that has since healed, but yes, you will feel the pain in training so you don't bleed on the street....
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^^then the school has lousy policy policies and poor attorneys to write exclusions and disclaimers.

The Krav school i go to here in Charlotte makes it very clear that this is hands on and the potential for injury is there and everyone signs an iron clad waiver.

Now, that does not mean we beat the **** out of each other but we do spar/fight/grapple/choke/etc...

When we use weapons like training knives and sticks, **** happens sometimes...

I have various injuries as a result, some permanent broken knuckles and a busted knee cap that has since healed, but yes, you will feel the pain in training so you don't bleed on the street....
Sorry. I was refferring to if you as a student used krav in self defense, and beat the perp to the point they sued you for excessive force.. It could fall back on the school
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Hapkido is a complete system, if you have a decent instructor don't hesitate.
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I always recommend boxing, wrestling or preferably both. There is a reason why those to disciplines dominate in MMA.
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I always recommend boxing, wrestling or preferably both. There is a reason why those to disciplines dominate in MMA.
Thanks. But honestly i cant stand being wrapped up like a pretzel with another man. I did BBJ for a few months a whike back. I hated it. I was decent but I really hated it
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With respect to MMA fighting, there are rules and it mano a mano, with no weapons, and no debilitating strikes or other nasty h2h tactics used.

this is why wrestling or bjj is so popular and effective.

on the street, or battlefield, there are no rules and most likely one will face multiple adversaries and going to the ground is a death sentence and boot party.

this is why we train to fight on the ground, but the goal is ALWAYS to get on ones feet.

with respect to being sued, you will be sued no matter the system if you use excessive force or other tactics like boot stomping someone who is on the ground and perceived to be helpless or out of the fight.

this is why you must know the laws governing self defense in your state.
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If it doesn't look like MMA you are probably doing it wrong.

Because that is pretty much the result of two guys fighting each other.

So the hapkido school should still be punching kicking and grabbing guys who are punching, kicking and grappling back.

On top of that throw as much street as you want.
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Anyone that thinks that a backflipping, triple axle, Hapkido kick is more street worthy than a good right cross, has never been in or seen a real fight.
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I took Hapkido many years ago. like many martial arts there was too much flash moves. High head kick stuff ,spin arounds. We actually spared so it was ok for that. Getting use to being hit is helpful.
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