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View Poll Results: Your opinions on air guns for survival?
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No, they are a waste 47 9.87%
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Old 05-29-2008, 08:31 AM
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I started using Airguns and Air rifles a long time back, when I was teaching my Young sons firearm safety! Seemed like a safer way to get them started and cheaper to boot? I saw the value in the lack of report, Recoil and lesser weight of these weapons!

Now, years later, I really do use and enjoy Airguns as an alternative to my 22's or other firearms! I have a simple Break and cock Airrilfe a marksman model 1050 it has a FPS of about 850! I have used it on Crowns, Small Rabbits, and other small furry creatures! I got it used in a lawn shop for less than 65$ due it it's used ststus anmd the fact that no one seemed to want it? it has the olympic type front and rear sites and it shoots well on target!
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One summer while i was in college i stayed in a tent for a week at a friend's wooded acreage outside town, waiting for an apt to be vacated so I could move in. There was a .177 pellet rifle to be used, so i decided to see if i could live off the land. Wasnt hard, except birds arent as convenient to eat as hot dogs. If I'd had a .30-06 I probably would have gone hungry.
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Got my Disco yesterday. Will pass on my experiences. Shot iron sight, rather carelessly, and could make a 10x10 rock at 'bout 45 yds....had to aim high 6". Did not mess with the sights.
Pumping it up wasn't nearly as tough as some have written, but I'm not too small either. Didn't count the shots, but shot enough for the newness to wear off, maybe 20 rounds. Refill from that point was not a real issue.
Will possibly chrony shots this weekend if weather permits.
Also boresighted 4x scope. Almost forgot that. Didn't shoot thereafter, it was dark, and the boresighter is a laser unit. (been nice to have)
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aaaaaand here we go.....
(with Discovery .22 pellets)
20 shot string velocity avg. @ 2 yds:816.XX FPS. 21.5 fpe.
20 shot string velocity avg. @ 22 yds:739.XX FPS. 17.6 fpe
Nailed 2 squirrels in the log pile backdrop at 28 yds.
Gun likes just below 2k psi. Velocity in strings actually showed increase about 5-6 shots after fill at a touch over 2k psi. Those were easy to define and were omitted from this data. Sounds like a nailgun.
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CAN BE USED TO FEED MY FAMILY. Well, if I wanted squirrel. I hear it's good.
Hope it's helpful.
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While on my recent trip to Wales I was party to a conversation about culling some geese with an air rifle.
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ok i was in waldo world, and i walked by the BB gunz, i nabbed a daisy powerline 880 for 35 bux with a scope. it claims 750 fps . i bought some raptor pellets they claim it ups the fps to 900+. it is 10 pump though. are the expensive guns only one pump? i will have to test the accuracy at up to 40 yards thats the most it would be used for. just a nother tool to snipe little food critters quietly.
no they are spring.. instead of pump so you pull it down then put ammo in the back then fire thats the spring loaded pelt guns that can be moded to make them more powerfull by adding a few wasers behind the fireing spring spring will have more power then a pump air gun only in the rifles but in the pistals the co2 pistals are still more powerful then spring or pump
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Hello,

Thank you for the good information. May I ask your opinion of an air hand gun? I have arthritis and think the rifle would be difficult for me to use.

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no way not ever
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Hello,

Thank you for the good information. May I ask your opinion of an air hand gun? I have arthritis and think the rifle would be difficult for me to use.

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The Crosman 2240 is a great pistol, cocking effort is low as it is powered off CO2. That kinda limits its usefulness for survival, as when you run out of CO2, that's it. It is great for small game hunting and shoots a .22 cal pellet. You can put a .177 barrel on it as well to make it cheaper to shoot.

The Crosman 1377 is a multi pump pistol that requires a bit more effort to use, though if you put in a lighter valve spring, it is not too hard to pump. Makes it shoot faster too. It is .177 caliber, making it really cheap to shoot.

Both pistols benefit from adding longer barrels (10" to 15"), which are easily ordered from Crosman. You'll probably have to cut the barrel to size if you go under 15", though. Both airguns will take squirrel and rabbit sized game with well placed shots. They've been the best pellet pistols I have used with hunting in mind.
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at fairly close range an air gun can be very usefull.
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I allways wanted a brocock system air gun but you now require the same licence as a proper gun for one over here. I have a cheap £30 break barrel which if the shtf I'll be glad I have but would like a higher quality one, such as an edgar brothers.
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I allways wanted a brocock system air gun but you now require the same licence as a proper gun for one over here. I have a cheap £30 break barrel which if the shtf I'll be glad I have but would like a higher quality one, such as an edgar brothers.
Would that be the chinese B2?
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yeah its the b2 by smk or something like that. Its not too bad but at teh ranges I was able to shoot I cant really comment on its accuracy
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I nearly bought this http://www.reviewcentre.com/reviews3388.html it was £60 though and i was a little impatient. The next week I sold my bb gun to buy a scope for it, I know its not a top of the lone scope but it will do until I can afford better
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Growing up in Nova Scotia my father started teaching me firearm saftey with an airgun.
After about a year Give or take a month or two, my father felt that i was competent enough and I was able to learn hunting with the 22.

I've hunted with the air rifle and was quite adepth at hunting small game with it.

I say yes it has its purposes and uses and would be better than nothing in a survival situation.
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I have used one to hunt squirrels with and was very pleased. I used an old crossman pump and pointed pellets. With 10 pumps it would put a pellet all the way through the head. I've since bought a gamo spring action rifle but have not hunted with it.I think a pellet gun is very useful for quiet hunting in places that a regular rifle would not be practical.
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I am not an airgunner, but I bought an unnamed Chinese .177 rifle at a tool sale a few years ago for about $50. This thing takes one pump and will send a pellet through plywood sheets easily. It has killed many squirrels.

I like to load five BBs into the chamber to scare deer from the garden. Makes a great mini-shotgun. Two or three BBs have proven useful against many small, furry critters.
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Read the history on Lewis & Clark.You will find that they used airguns on the quest across America.Large caliber air can take any North American Animal.Air guns have been around way before most people can imagine.
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yeah theres a guy who makes 50 cal airguns on tne net
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An air gun is a good tool to have if you know how to use one. They are silent and deadly. (again only if you know how to use one) So in my opinion I would say that an airgun is an important tool in your kit
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