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Thanks to the input from this board, my next step is seeing if I can get my Jeep to a real remote spot and set up the tent on the cargo rack. I want to be sleeping about 7' off the ground for obvious reasons. If one pulls the ladder up then others have a harder time gaining access during our most vulnerable hours.

So this will be an improved bug out location that is close enough to water yet within an hour of home.

Thought I had a good spot then found an archery hunter camped on it last year. I think we can forget about anything that is accessible by trail even if remote. The mere existence of a trail requires many users every year.

Just being 100 yards off a remote trail would place one pretty much out of sight. I'd say that ~90% stay on the trails. Maybe 50% within eyesight of their vehicle - very rough guess.
When I set up my most recent camping system, I went the roof top tent (RTT) route also.

I mounted mine on a trailer I already had. The main reasons I went that way was:
1) Once the tent is set up, I can detach the vehicle and use it independently
2) The right trailer being pulled by the right vehicle can still have really good offroad performance. My trailer is a tandem with offroad wheels, independent suspension, 4 wheel disks and very good ground clearance, entry, break over and departure angles.
3) I need a trailer to carry my quad anyway
4) The whole thing can be left loaded up and ready to go faster than loading up stuff into your daily drive vehicle

I also got the extension annex for the RTT and a 270 degree awning to cover the other side and the rear of the trailer - so my covered area is about 8'x8' in the RTT, about 9'x9' in the annex (far side of the picture) and about 8'x8' on the other side and rear of the trailer.

By the way, I think you will find that the manufacturer of your RTT would recommend against using it with the ladder pulled up. The ladder acts as a support for the (otherwise) unsupported (folded out) half of the tent floor.
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When I set up my most recent camping system, I went the roof top tent (RTT) route also.

I mounted mine on a trailer I already had. The main reasons I went that way was:
1) Once the tent is set up, I can detach the vehicle and use it independently
2) The right trailer being pulled by the right vehicle can still have really good offroad performance. My trailer is a tandem with offroad wheels, independent suspension, 4 wheel disks and very good ground clearance, entry, break over and departure angles.
3) I need a trailer to carry my quad anyway
4) The whole thing can be left loaded up and ready to go faster than loading up stuff into your daily drive vehicle

I also got the extension annex for the RTT and a 270 degree awning to cover the other side and the rear of the trailer - so my covered area is about 8'x8' in the RTT, about 9'x9' in the annex (far side of the picture) and about 8'x8' on the other side and rear of the trailer.

By the way, I think you will find that the manufacturer of your RTT would recommend against using it with the ladder pulled up. The ladder acts as a support for the (otherwise) unsupported (folded out) half of the tent floor.
Yes - that does make sense. In a truly hostile environment I would still pull it up and use wood to support the other half.

Is that a military grade trailer? Seems they are worth a lot more than they were years ago. A nice Jeep trailer would be pretty nice.
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Yes - that does make sense. In a truly hostile environment I would still pull it up and use wood to support the other half.

Is that a military grade trailer? Seems they are worth a lot more than they were years ago. A nice Jeep trailer would be pretty nice.
Yes - it is an ex mil trailer. Their market value is set by what people will pay for them. But they are pretty much always a lot cheaper than it would cost build a trailer that strong and well equipped.

Bear in mind the original Jeep trailer capacity was 1/4 ton (and was unbraked) - so that would not even carry a quad bike.
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"FREE" overnight camping at Wal-Mart info:
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https://www.elmonterv.com/guide/rv-r...y-information/
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Just stay away from places run by lefties if you want to park at Walmart. Seriously.
It doesnít matter about politics.
If you park overnight...and you have this huge pop up tent on top of your vehicle or you are towing a pop up camper.... with it popped up... you are sticking out like a sore thumb.
Most of these Wal-Marts on the list do not allow overnight parking anymore.
Usually have a private security company that patrols the lot.... they spot you....either they tell you to go....or they call the local cops.
In urban areas...or even rural areas...you want to be stealth. Your vehicle should blend in.
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It doesnít matter about politics.
If you park overnight...and you have this huge pop up tent on top of your vehicle or you are towing a pop up camper.... with it popped up... you are sticking out like a sore thumb.
Most of these Wal-Marts on the list do not allow overnight parking anymore.
Usually have a private security company that patrols the lot.... they spot you....either they tell you to go....or they call the local cops.
In urban areas...or even rural areas...you want to be stealth. Your vehicle should blend in.
The vast majority of those Wal Marts are in areas run by lefties. They are on the east coast and west coast. This is common knowledge in the RV community.
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The vast majority of those Wal Marts are in areas run by lefties. They are on the east coast and west coast. This is common knowledge in the RV community.
https://www.walmartlocator.com/no-pa...arts-by-state/

Over 1000 Walmart stores that are no park locations..... not just west and east coast...
Has nothing to do with lefties. Has to do with folks who act like trailer trash and mess it up for others.
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https://www.walmartlocator.com/no-pa...arts-by-state/

Over 1000 Walmart stores that are no park locations..... not just west and east coast...
Has nothing to do with lefties. Has to do with folks who act like trailer trash and mess it up for others.

That's too bad, I'd still ask, you never know they may say yes. It's those who set up with the intention of living there that are a problem. Ah well there are always truck stops. Again one would have to check and see if they have an RV area. Some do some don't. Thing about Walmart is you can usually find one within a days driving distance in any direction.
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The vast majority of those Wal Marts are in areas run by lefties. They are on the east coast and west coast. This is common knowledge in the RV community.
I count 88 Walmartís in Texas that donít allow..... I guess you consider Texas as leftist

Iím just saying to the Walmart crowd....it is getting more difficult to stay overnight in their parking lots.
Best option....is find one open 24 hours...and be stealth about it. Extending the sides of an RV ...or using a pop up...isnít stealth.
Then again...nothing about a RV is stealth. Lol.
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I can and have caught a nap on the dinette bed of a pop up camper without popping it up. I don't understand the stealth aspect. It's a camper you are not going to be stealthy or disguise it so why bother trying. Just be careful in selecting your overnight locations and be prepared to move if you have to. It's not rocket science...LOL
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I can and have caught a nap on the dinette bed of a pop up camper without popping it up. I don't understand the stealth aspect. It's a camper you are not going to be stealthy or disguise it so why bother trying. Just be careful in selecting your overnight locations and be prepared to move if you have to. It's not rocket science...LOL
Like I said....nothing about a RV is stealth. Lol.
If you want to rest somewhere and not be hassled...and evicted at 1am.... got to be stealth.
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Location, location. location...choose right you win a good nights sleep, choose wrong and you get rousted and lose an nights sleep. I think that pretty much goes with the territory...
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https://www.walmartlocator.com/no-pa...arts-by-state/

Over 1000 Walmart stores that are no park locations..... not just west and east coast...
Has nothing to do with lefties. Has to do with folks who act like trailer trash and mess it up for others.
Professional RVers have the experience. They say that Walmarts in lefty locations are generally not co-operative. Plus 80 stores in Texas - which is probably less than half the Walmarts in Texas - our second most populous state.

EDIT: Counted over 80 Walmarts in Texas before I was done with the letter C. Huh.
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