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The cabin at the back of the property has a nice sized wild persimmon near it. 2018 the tree is loaded with persimmons.

What a lot of people do not know, the Wild Persimmon grows well in sandy soil, tolerates drought well, and reproduces like crazy. All of the property are small Wild Persimmon trees. In one small area I counted five. Then just a few feet away I spotted a few more. There is one Wild Persimmon tree that is around 12 feet tall that I need to clear around the base of.

Maybe 14 mile from the farm is a large and old Wild Persimmon tree. That one would put the one in the video to shame.


Currently I am caring for several Wild Persimmon trees here on the farm. There use to be several mature trees, but they were overtaken by other trees and they died.

The fruit will typically ripen in the late fall. Some people say to wait until after the first frost to eat them.


P.S. Was trying out a new camera in this video, and it kept trying to focus. Sorry about that.
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Can't see the video. But I love persimmon. We've got two trees that produce pretty good, but they're still young trees.
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Can't see the video. But I love persimmon. We've got two trees that produce pretty good, but they're still young trees.
Why cant you see the video? What error message?

Are you running ad block by chance?
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No adblock here. "Warning
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Edit: I believe it's trying to connect to YT with an http link instead of https.
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Nice vid, like the dog. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udsG7q8_Fvs
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The coding in the v link conversion is wrong it is missing the "s:"
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At my house in the sand, persimmons are very sweet... It's Vidalia country here, everything grown in the sugar sand is extra sweet... IF you can beat the raccoons to the fruit...

Any issues with raccoons/possums getting to the persimmons before you get any at the Bol?
Kinda makes the whole pick before/after frost a non-issue...
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They don't grow here. Wouldn't even know what to do with one... or ten.
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Baby Blue. You just pick, wash, and eat them like an apple. Persimmons are soooo good. Don't know about wild ones, but ours are awesome. I usually cut it in wedges and then eat for snack.
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Persimmon: "Parthenocarpic and polygamodioecious (bisexual) individuals also exist which pose the potential for self fruitfulness. Polygamodioecious individuals like ‘Szukis’ produce female flowers on male plants; ‘Szukis’ will bear fruit in isolation or can be used as a pollenizer for female varieties. ‘Meader’ is a parthenocarpic female that produces seedless fruit without pollenization; if pollenized ‘Meader’ will bear fruit with seeds." https://thefruitnut.com/american-persimmon/

Sexing persimmons is a dilemma. As the link above explains they can be monoecious, dioecious, polygamodiecious - have seeds, have no seeds and a guy who lives about 20 miles from me has some native persimmons in which 80% of the fruit is seedless and 20% has one seed. On top of that some have 90 chromosomes while others have 60. Add to that there is evidence that branches on the same tree can have male flowers one year and female the next, or visa versa.
Oriental persimmons such as the ones of which I believe @Naya is talking, have centuries of development and are much more reliable in their fruiting habits.

@BabyBlue While probably not native to your area, once established some varieties of persimmon are very drought resistant and cold hardy. Some Russian varieties are a cross of our native "Diospyros virginiana" and the Asian "Diospyros kaki" and are cold hardy while the native 'Meader' persimmon is documented to have survived -30 degrees Farenheit.

I have several mature native persimmons that yield heavily virtually every year. The pictures are of a volunteer grove of young trees, Greene Deane calls it a persimmon 'hurst', two of which are bearing fruit for the first time at five years of age. This group has 12 five year olds and 2 three year old trees. They are much too close of course, but I hope eventually to get three well formed females far enough apart to keep.
Internet 'knowledge' suggests that for some unknown reason only 20% to 30% of persimmons grown from seed bear fruit. I will wait another year or two to begin thinning the 'hurst' since reliable sources say that native persimmons can begin bearing fruit anywhere from 4 - 9 years of age.
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I found two more of my five year old persimmons fruiting today - that makes 4 out of twelve so far.
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Had a persimmon tree at our old house. Our Doberman would eat every one that fell before I could harvest any. She would also eat the tomatoes off the vine.
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