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Old 10-01-2019, 10:42 AM
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WHY WE put BIG BUMPERS on our vehicles...
My Jeep XJ looks like this on the front.



A friend borrowed it and early this AM at about 45mph he hit a 150lb white tail deer
the damage..
The paracord is holding the plastic inner fender from rubbing the wheel. But nothing damaged except the bar wing and that is just bent in a little. Otherwise it would have pretty much taken the light and fender and grill and radiator and ???? who knows what else?

A worthy investment? You be the judge,



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I live in deer country & plan to put something like this on my truck. Always seem to find other things to spend the money on though. Need to stop putting it off.
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Yup. I want to put a guard on the front of my SUV. I hit two deer in a two year span on my late night commute home with my old SUV. And one with the pickup I had before that. Countless close calls, too.
Once I get my Ham radios and antennas installed on this one, I am a little concerned that putting a guard on the front will appear that I'm trying to look like a whacker imitating a LE vehicle. This black SUV already has a tendency to slow traffic so I haven't made a decision yet.
We are so deer infested here and much of my driving is late at night. I get tired of the front end and headlight damage.

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This is why I have big metal bumpers.
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yikes...150 pound deer. I would want one for those 110 pound beta soy boys
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local body shop calls those frame benders

around here people who actually push cattle with bull bars use Ranch King brand

https://bumpersuperstore.com/c-96472...anch-king.html

crew cab dually long wheelbase F350 with a diesel and a Ranch King bull bar is the automotive equivalent of 5'8 Hispanic male with tattoos and a muscle shirt in central NM. you have not narrowed the field much with that description
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HERE is the company, Affordable Offroad.

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I AM a HUGe believer in those things when living in deer country. I have had BIG bumpers on vehicles since the early 70s when I had a local welding shop make up one out of oil well casing and I beam to go on my GMC 3/4 ton.

Over the years I have saved literally thousands of $$$ from damage prevention and my insurance company has no problem paying for the dinged equipment replacement instead of having a whole vehicle totaled out.

On another 3/4 ton I had a big Westin and hit and killed 5 caribou in Quebec as they came running out of the dark. It would have destroyed the vehicle. Instead I had $200 damage to the grill plastic and another $600 to replace the Westin which got wrenched around out of alignment but still saved the vehicle.

You live in big critter areas, they are a good investment.
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Even my subaru has one....

Still need to get around to making one for my truck

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They're only worth the time if they're frame mounted. The cheap "for looks" bars tend to do more damage to your vehicle than not having them.

I have a good one on my truck, and even though it's heavy I'm thankful for it every deer season.
Not just in case one comes out in front of me, but when I'm driving back in the sticks. Lot's of times we'll get deer at last light, so then we're driving through the brush with the lights on to get the deer and get it out. I can't imagine how many scratches, dents and maybe broken lights I've avoided.

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Last truck had a hydraulic winch bumper. Local trailer shop found me a brush guard of 5/16 flat bar, with some joke tubes protecting the radiator. Bought it cut away everything but the heavy metal ring, and welded x metal in front of the radiator, and attached to the winch bumper with the heaviest wall 1” tube available.

It survived 3 hits
1) vacuum pump failed under extended warrantee- drove home for 300 miles and returned to dealer for repair on sat- asked dealer to lock it up over weekend due to radios, satphone, etc installed. Monday morning, service writer hopped in truck, poped clutch , and mechanic swore spun the tire driving it out. ,ECHA can swears another mechanic swore idiot, before the guy found out the brakes didn’t work and plowed into a Tarrus.$5000 in repairs to tarrus, mechanic repainted my whole bumper with Rustolum for $5 plus a few hits or primer.

2) hit by EDP driving wrong way at 10-15 mph, I believe intentionally. ( she though she would get a new car. She was leaking coilent, I had a few scratches.

3) I drove through a chain link fence at 30 mph late at night. Contractor had stretched old military fence across a public road to keep people out. I had no idea it was there, having driven every night down that road. Bumper and brush guard took 90% of impact but two poles got pulled into side of truck doing minor damage. I called 911 to report ( again. It was a public road owned by city with E911 addresses). Contractor fessed up to detectives he did it.
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Nothing wrong with big bumpers

Just be aware that a really hard impact will likely bend your frame because the bumper doesn't bend like a conventional bumper

Ask me how I know....
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We've got a crew of 10-15 deer regularly around the house so you can imagine there are plenty on the roads. Your guard wouldn't have helped in my only deer accident. It jumped from a small ridge on the side of the road onto my hood. Literally fell out of the sky.
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Nothing wrong with big bumpers

Just be aware that a really hard impact will likely bend your frame because the bumper doesn't bend like a conventional bumper

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Well, it depends on how you make them. Ideally the mounts for the bumper are weaker than the frame they are attached to. I have sheet metal crumple zones in mine.
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Got Buckstop bumpers front and rear for my F350.



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The local machine shop fabs their own guards. 4” oil field tubes and plate gussets, winch mounts, 2” receiver, solid as it gets.
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Lots of deer around here too, and most people would rather replace a bumper, radiator or windshield than risk bending the frame. I know guys who put on a big bumper and then tie it into a cattle rack so there's something to keep it from folding back and damaging the frame. Without supports, it's just a four foot lever attached to the frame, and the higher the impact, the more force that's applied to the frame.
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Lots of deer around here too, and most people would rather replace a bumper, radiator or windshield than risk bending the frame. I know guys who put on a big bumper and then tie it into a cattle rack so there's something to keep it from folding back and damaging the frame. Without supports, it's just a four foot lever attached to the frame, and the higher the impact, the more force that's applied to the frame.
Delta airlines has really neat “brush guards” (pushbumpers) with a pipe that wraps around the front fender well and drop down to be the outside of a nerf bar/running board. I’ve asked the ground equipment maintainance guys where they get them, but they didn’t know.

Anyway, I live in AL, and I have no concerns about bending the frame in a 1 ton. deer just aren’t that big or tall. This attitude is shared by fleet managers that run hundreds or thousands of brushguards on 1/2 ton plus trucks in the southeast.
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THERE is a fairly big difference between southern deer and northern deer in that if the deer is at least a year old it will weigh 150lbs. Once they get older they get bigger and if you hit a 200+lb deer at 55mph without protection you have pretty much totaled todays vehicles. You have probably set off the airbags and you are stopped DRT. I saw a 250lb deer literally crush a land tank back to the firewall when hit at 70mph on I 75(a 1972 Lincoln Towncar. ) literally destroyed the whole front end. The rack was huge and they guy who hit it said he wanted it. Biggest and most expensive deer he ever got.

Not a big problem if you live in a semi urban area.

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there are no wreckers running after 10PM
The reason my friend was driving my Jeep was because he had just hit a different deer with his Avalanche and it stopped dead. He had protection up front but when it went under the truck it screwed up something that stopped the engine and wouldn't restart. No wrecker available he called and woke me up to come get him.

a lot of areas have no cell service

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have that happen when it is -20 and with wind chill to -40 and you can be in trouble. You want that vehicle to keep moving and keeping you warm.

My wife refuses to have a bar on her Liberty, says it doesn't look "feminine". I keep telling her they don't make the Liberty anymore(this is her third, she loves them) When it gets wrecked she will have to find something else.
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Lots of deer around here too, and most people would rather replace a bumper, radiator or windshield than risk bending the frame. I know guys who put on a big bumper and then tie it into a cattle rack so there's something to keep it from folding back and damaging the frame. Without supports, it's just a four foot lever attached to the frame, and the higher the impact, the more force that's applied to the frame.
A heavy duty bumper is only ever going to protect you from a minor impact. But it may be the difference between getting towed away and driving away from the minor impact.

The truth is that most vehicles are little more than plastic wrap and tinfoil, designed to keep the occupants alive but not to survive any kind of impact themselves. There is very little of substance in any of them to attach a bumper to.
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