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Old 11-30-2019, 11:09 PM
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It's too bad a large sledge hammer wasn't available.
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The Brit government have long ago banned anything in regular use which could be used as a weapon. Back in the 60s-80s, rude boys/skins/punks/etc used to be very creative in how they armed themselves to support their football hooliganism. There are lots of pics where the Bobby’s had lines of them outside stadiums checking for anything. Steel toe boots were an obvious one. Less obvious were creatively rolled newspapers (forms a sort of blackjack/club) and (unsurprisingly) umbrellas.
As those folks have grown older and hooliganism has grown much less widespread, one wonders if future generations will ever be able to be “up with the cock” against muzzy scum attackers.
Nope football hooligans still meet up for fights but to avoid arrest and the now almost guaranteed custodial sentence the location is arranged last minute and guys do still visit A&E for stitches.
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Nope football hooligans still meet up for fights but to avoid arrest and the now almost guaranteed custodial sentence the location is arranged last minute and guys do still visit A&E for stitches.


I’d seriously love to see some muzzy wave a knife and yell “aloha snack bar!” Only to get his ass handed to him by some firm chanting their song...I could see Millwall doing it.
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I’d seriously love to see some muzzy wave a knife and yell “aloha snack bar!” Only to get his ass handed to him by some firm chanting their song...I could see Millwall doing it.
It would only be by chance such a situation would arise. If an Islamic terrorist targeted football supporters it would be in the same manner as Salman Ramadan Abedi did in Manchester.
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It would only be by chance such a situation would arise. If an Islamic terrorist targeted football supporters it would be in the same manner as Salman Ramadan Abedi did in Manchester.


Of course chance would play into it. I didn’t mean the terrorist targeted football fans intentionally. Simply that a firm in the right place could give some of that ok’ moonstompin’ and maybe the terrorists would think twice next time.
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Old 12-01-2019, 02:27 AM
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Of course chance would play into it. I didn’t mean the terrorist targeted football fans intentionally. Simply that a firm in the right place could give some of that ok’ moonstompin’ and maybe the terrorists would think twice next time.
Since they expect to blow themselves up or die by cop a terminal beat down is not going to be a deterrent.
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Old 12-01-2019, 07:43 AM
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Those folks saved the world from the Nazis and realized before anyone else that the Russians were bloodthirsty thugs bent on world domination. They knew that if the Russians launched nukes, they'd be the first targets with no time to hide in a shelter. They lived through Irish terrorists' attempts to blow up London, Middle Eastern terrorists attempts to blow up their trains and buses, and the Libyans blowing up the plane over Scotland. When the Wall came down, they hoped for a generation of safety, but wound up with Arabs with cockney accents trying to chop cops' heads off.
Say what you want to about them, but they don't give up.
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Then explain how they ended up with no right to defend themselves.

Using anything in self defense, any random object picked up, subjects them to prosecution and jail time.

The people in the story who used a fire extinguisher or Narwhal horn are at risk.
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Then explain how they ended up with no right to defend themselves.

Using anything in self defense, any random object picked up, subjects them to prosecution and jail time.

The people in the story who used a fire extinguisher or Narwhal horn are at risk.
They have a right to self-defense. I also can't envision any scenario where those who stepped up and confronted the terrorist will be charged.
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Then explain how they ended up with no right to defend themselves.

Using anything in self defense, any random object picked up, subjects them to prosecution and jail time.

The people in the story who used a fire extinguisher or Narwhal horn are at risk.
Biggest pile of tripe I have read on here for a while, and that is saying something.
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British citizens seeking advice on what’s legal to use for self-defense found some answers at www.askthe.police.uk, a website sponsored and operated by the government’s Police National Legal Database.

Question 589: Are there any legal self-defence products that I can buy?

Answer: The only fully legal self-defence product … is a rape alarm.

There may be other products, according to the website, but they haven’t been fully tested and “if you purchase one you must be aware … there is always the possibility that you will arrested and detained until the product, its contents and legality, can be verified.”
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Biggest pile of tripe I have read on here for a while, and that is saying something.
Let's hope neither the narwal and fire extinguisher gentlemen nor yourself ever find yourselves in front of a tribunal modelled on Komrade Corbyn's vision of Britain.

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Let's hope neither the narwal and fire extinguisher gentlemen nor yourself ever find yourselves in front of a tribunal modelled on Komrade Corbyn's vision of Britain.

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Not a fan of Corbyn but what vision would have these two people in front of a tribunal?
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Old 12-02-2019, 03:07 AM
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If I see a guy wearing what looks like explosives waving a knife around, given the choice between stabbing him with a five foot spear, blinding him and then braining him with a fifty pound fire extinguisher, or pumping a round into a vest full of what looks like explosives, my choices would be:
1. Kill him with the spear.
2. Blind him and then bash his head in with the fire extinguisher.
3. Grab anyone in danger and run like hell before someone else shoots him.
4 Pump a round into the explosives and watch him and anyone near him vaporize in a hail of ball bearings, nails, and jagged metal that those nuts usually add to the explosives in their suicide vests.
If the same scenario played out in the US, and you pulled your piece, you'd be more likely to be shot by a cop than killed by the nut with the knife.
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British citizens seeking advice on what’s legal to use for self-defense found some answers at www.askthe.police.uk, a website sponsored and operated by the government’s Police National Legal Database.

Question 589: Are there any legal self-defence products that I can buy?

Answer: The only fully legal self-defence product … is a rape alarm.

There may be other products, according to the website, but they haven’t been fully tested and “if you purchase one you must be aware … there is always the possibility that you will arrested and detained until the product, its contents and legality, can be verified.”
In what way is that relevant to your claim the people using the whale spear and the fire extinguisher who are now at risk?

That is just a fantasy you have made up, Lord knows your reasons for it.
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British citizens seeking advice on what’s legal to use for self-defense found some answers at www.askthe.police.uk, a website sponsored and operated by the government’s Police National Legal Database.

Question 589: Are there any legal self-defence products that I can buy?

Answer: The only fully legal self-defence product … is a rape alarm.

There may be other products, according to the website, but they haven’t been fully tested and “if you purchase one you must be aware … there is always the possibility that you will arrested and detained until the product, its contents and legality, can be verified.”
I thought your were joking
But no, thats exactly the only "weapon" you have for self defense.
https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q589.htm

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Q335: I have seen CS spray for sale, is it legal?

No, CS spray is not legal.

It is a prohibited firearm and if you are found in possession of it, it could lead to a minimum prison sentence of six months and a maximum one of ten years and/or a fine.
Pepper spray is a firearm in the magic make-believe world of rulers and peasants... were peasants cant even carry food-grade spray to defend themselves but the prince can go to far and exotic lands to rape teenagers.
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Where do I get a narwhal tusk pistol grip for my AR15?
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Here we go again.. This happened few hours ago.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-50594810

www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAgijjUUQQA

Apparently he wore a fake suicide vest. Wounded 12, then people wrestled him down (part of that shown in youtube videos), police arrived and apparently shot him (in case the vest wasn't fake).
Supposedly, residents of the City of London have the royal privilege of walking through the city with their swords drawn. This dates to medieval times. I think more real Englishmen need to exercise this right to counter the Islamists.
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Where do I get a narwhal tusk pistol grip for my AR15?
When one of our previous company owners retired, guys bought him a nice pen. Made out of walrus penis bone.
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Those folks saved the world from the Nazis and realized before anyone else that the Russians were bloodthirsty thugs bent on world domination. They knew that if the Russians launched nukes, they'd be the first targets with no time to hide in a shelter. They lived through Irish terrorists' attempts to blow up London, Middle Eastern terrorists attempts to blow up their trains and buses, and the Libyans blowing up the plane over Scotland. When the Wall came down, they hoped for a generation of safety, but wound up with Arabs with cockney accents trying to chop cops' heads off.
Say what you want to about them, but they don't give up.
"We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender!" - Sir Winston Churchill

Of course nowadays, any Brit saying something like Churchill did would probably be arrested:
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