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Old 02-23-2020, 02:19 PM
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Think I will do some private sales buys at the next gun show
Gonna file a $0 income tax return to, since youre feeling salty.

Or is that taking the risk a little to far.
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At this point, California seems to have entirely ignored the meaning of the word "infringed".

I'm wondering when a Supreme Court case might bring that matter to some type of clarity.
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At this point, California seems to have entirely ignored the meaning of the word "infringed".

I'm wondering when a Supreme Court case might bring that matter to some type of clarity.
I no longer trust the SCOTUS. The constution was written in the plain language of the day for the common man. I don’t require the thoughts of a pious old dried up lizard in a black robe to “interpret” the “true meaning” of our constitution. I can read!

The word “INFRINGED” is pretty damn clear.
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That is really some sick ****. I live in Just 9 miles east of the Colorado river. From my house, I can see 50 miles into California. We are the same country and share the same constitution. Here on the east side of the river, I can enter a gun store, buy ANYTHING, and leave the store with it in just a few minutes. The guns in my safe are common and very legal here in Arizona, yet crossing the river 9 miles west, my guns would get me 400 years in prison.

I give it much thought, but I have great difficulty understanding when and why California left the rails. It sounds like California is run by Larry, Moe and Curley Joe.
Now don’t insult the intelligence of the three stooges with the likes of left wing politicians.
Moe would poke you in the eyes for that.
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At this point, California seems to have entirely ignored the meaning of the word "infringed".

I'm wondering when a Supreme Court case might bring that matter to some type of clarity.
That, and a bunch of other crap. Keep wondering.
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Yup, and if you're a porn actor you can have all the unprotected sex you want with as many fellow porn actors you want without ramifications. Just gotta make sure though you get your AIDS test on schedule.

You have to really stop, sit down, and think about just how screwed up it is that illegals are afforded more protections than citizens, where law enforcement has been ordered to not cooperate with ICE on immigration issues, some of those will do it willingly like the new SFO Sheriff, yet if you have one firearm not on the approved list they will break down your door, shoot your dog, and you are a felon for life.

This is absurdity at its finest.
Illegals from the ages of 18 to 25 get better (Free state sponsored) healthcare, housing, food and monetary assistance and legal representation than homeless Vets. Who pays for this? Everyone in America that's who. Let that sink in real deep and let it burn around for awhile to show the average American what the California government thinks of it's well deserving heroes.
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Gonna file a $0 income tax return to, since youre feeling salty.

Or is that taking the risk a little to far.
I will, since the state of Oklahoma does not tax my retirement income.
Just another reason to leave California.

This thread started out discussing the latest stupid gun laws of my former state.

But if you compare the whole effect of taxes, laws, regulations, and fees, it really does seem like getting out of prison.
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Those of us in freer states cannot just write off any other state, especially one the size of California.

Whats happening there is coming our way, make no mistake.

Pick a gun rights organization in those states and donate to them. (Please, no arguments over which one...)
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Move to Australia, where you can buy as much ammo as you want.
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Move to Australia, where you can buy as much ammo as you want.
Sure, why not? You can't own the guns that shoot it.
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Those of us in freer states cannot just write off any other state, especially one the size of California.

Whats happening there is coming our way, make no mistake.

Pick a gun rights organization in those states and donate to them. (Please, no arguments over which one...)
People need to stop voting the insanity route too. Doing the same thing over and over, without bringing change, is doing us no good, and in all respects. You need to drop the "whats best for the gang mentality", and start thinking with a "whats best for the country" mentality.

Trump was an excellent start and shows people are catching on, but we need 535 more Trumps in there and need to run those who arent doing their jobs off.

A fresh start and some changes are in order. But not likely to happen, especially if we keep voting insanity.

If youre going to give money to a gun group, give it to one thats actually doing something, if there really is one. Better off putting that money into guns and ammo if youre not sure. Dont waste it on those who are part of the problem. Its just not those in Congress or political office, that are the trouble. They all thrive and prosper on all the drama, just like the others. Theres really no incentive there to make it go away if it keeps making them rich.

If only we could get back to being the Constitutional Republic we are supposed to be, and follow the Constitution, get rid of the Federal Reserve and put us back on the gold standard and US Currency, reduce the size of the federal government, and at the same time, have them address the states that are violating our rights, which is their job, we'd be a lot better off.

At this point, I really dont see any of that happening though.
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Sure, why not? You can't own the guns that shoot it.
Yes you can. Can you have handguns with a threaded barrel in CA? No problem here. Hi cap mags also no problem in some States here. Semi and full-auto also good to go if you want to do the extra paperwork.

The biggest con job in the US media is the lie told about Australia's gun laws.
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Full auto is good to go here too if you're willing to do the extra paperwork and pay the related fees. Other than a 4473 for a non-private sale, semi-auto is good to go too.

I have handguns with threaded barrels on them.

Your point is?
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Yes you can. Can you have handguns with a threaded barrel in CA? No problem here. Hi cap mags also no problem in some States here. Semi and full-auto also good to go if you want to do the extra paperwork.

The biggest con job in the US media is the lie told about Australia's gun laws.

You should get on Wikipedia immediately and correct them, since they appear to be part of the con job.....


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Category C

Pump-action or self-loading shotguns having a magazine capacity of 5 or fewer rounds and semi-automatic rimfire rifles up to 10 rounds. Primary producers, farm workers, firearm dealers, firearm safety officers, collectors and clay target shooters can own functional Category C firearms.

Category D

All self-loading centrefire rifles, pump-action or self-loading shotguns that have a magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds, semi-automatic rimfire rifles over 10 rounds, are restricted to government agencies, occupational shooters and primary producers.

Category H

Handguns including air pistols and deactivated handguns. This class is available to target shooters and certain security guards whose job requires possession of a firearm. To be eligible for a Category H firearm, a target shooter must serve a probationary period of 6 months using club handguns, after which they may apply for a permit. A minimum number of matches yearly to retain each category of handgun and be a paid-up member of an approved pistol club.[15] Target shooters are limited to handguns of .38 or 9mm calibre or less and magazines may hold a maximum of 10 rounds. Participants in certain "approved" pistol competitions may acquire handguns up to .45 calibre, currently Single Action Shooting and Metallic Silhouette. IPSC shooting is approved for 9mm/.38/.357 SIG, handguns that meet the IPSC rules, larger calibres such as .45 were approved for IPSC handgun shooting contests in Australia in 2014, however only in Victoria so far.[16] Barrels must be at least 100mm (3.94") long for revolvers, and 120mm (4.72") for semi-automatic pistols unless the pistols are clearly ISSF target pistols; magazines are restricted to 10 rounds.
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If only we could get back to being the Constitutional Republic we are supposed to be, and follow the Constitution, get rid of the Federal Reserve and put us back on the gold standard and US Currency, reduce the size of the federal government, and at the same time, have them address the states that are violating our rights, which is their job, we'd be a lot better off.

At this point, I really dont see any of that happening though.
Me either......


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You should get on Wikipedia immediately and correct them, since they appear to be part of the con job.....




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_of_Australia

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That information is correct but not complete. Full auto is readily available if you apply for a dealer licence. A close friend has done it, it was straight forward and relatively easy.
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Wow even in NY it isn't that bad.
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Full auto is good to go here too if you're willing to do the extra paperwork and pay the related fees. Other than a 4473 for a non-private sale, semi-auto is good to go too.

I have handguns with threaded barrels on them.

Your point is?
My point is gun laws in Australia seem to be less restrictive than some parts of the mighty Land of the Free. And we don't get executed by cops for having a blown tail light, selling DVD's or for dialling 911 to report a crime.
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My point is gun laws in Australia seem to be less restrictive than some parts of the mighty Land of the Free. And we don't get executed by cops for having a blown tail light, selling DVD's or for dialling 911 to report a crime.
Compared to California, Colorado, or the US North East States; I'll grant you that.

I won't disagree with your second sentence.
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That information is correct but not complete. Full auto is readily available if you apply for a dealer licence. A close friend has done it, it was straight forward and relatively easy.
Have YOU or your buddy got one of those special 'self defense' licenses???

No? Why not???

Which pretty much means that if you do anything with any firearm you may happen to have - You are in big freakin trouble with the law... About as dumb as having a car and not being able to drive it anywhere in my opinion.


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Under New South Wales law, and Australian law generally, firearms may *only* be used for the purpose the license to use them for is issued under. If the license is not issued for self-defense, they may not be used for self-defense. The 1996 firearms agreement between Australia states specifically forbids issuing a firearms license for self-defense. If license holders use their license for self defense, they can lose their license to own a firearm forever. They can be jailed for up to five years.

The police impounded David's three firearms on September 14th. On October 3rd, they put restrictions on David's wife, Andrea, who also had a firearms license. She was not allowed to have any firearms while living with David. David had never been convicted of any crime.
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