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Yep they're going to float as much as they can to tie up the news cycle, since people are getting tired of the false flag ones. IMHO the media groups are in it as deep as some others and should be charged as accomplices!
Impeachment inquiry turns to Vice President Mike Pence
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/tru...pence-n1062646

Yup,Here it is Folks..Nothing but a Coup to place either Pelosi OR Hillary in the Presidency...We just have to figure out how to Stop this as the Ballot Box has Failed!!. Any ideas???.
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I have always been respectful of Democrats and other liberals until this year. Now I can't stand them and will be ready to fight if we get deeper into Socialism. They are now the enemy. The news media and all the plastic bananas of Hollywood are also part of the liberal/Socialists group that is sinking America.
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I was reading online today and forgot to save it then couldn`t find it again. It was about Pelosi and Shifty stating that they think Mike Pence was in with Trump on the Impeachment issues and Needs to be investigated too. I was shocked..she really does want to be President and this is her shot at it!. Get ready Folks,this is going downhill Fast!!!.
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Yep they're going to float as much as they can to tie up the news cycle, since people are getting tired of the false flag ones. IMHO the media groups are in it as deep as some others and should be charged as accomplices!
Impeachment inquiry turns to Vice President Mike Pence
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/tru...pence-n1062646
They probably figure going for all the marbles is the only way to survive the repercussions of their actions. They've gotten themselves in to deep to back out, if they don't win they lose it all and possibly get to see prison.
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Default How To Avoid Civil War: Decentralization, Nullification, Secession

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...tion-secession

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Thus, for those who can manage to leave behind the flag-waving propaganda of their youths, it is increasingly evident that the only way to avoid a violent conflict over control of the national government is breaking the United States up into smaller pieces. Or at least decentralizing power sufficiently to allow for meaningful autonomy beyond the reach of federal power.
If cities and states can declare themselves sanctuaries for illegals, if states can openly legalize recreational marijuana, then states can also declare any other federal laws not to their residents liking also null and void.

Federal laws are ineffective if states and localities refuse to enforce them. The feds can call out the National Guard, but if it meets REAL resistance, then what? CWII I suppose.

12 times a President has called out the National Guard

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...htmlstory.html

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Yes, state nullification of federal over reach laws is about the only alternative to civil war in the years to come. Never thought I’d ever say something like that about the nation I grew up in and was very proud of, but there it is. The left has simply destroyed America, changed the definition of “American Values” to suit their own agenda, and have resorted to a “By Any Means Necessary” mode of attack that can find no room for actual bipartisanship. They have become domestic enemies of this nation by overthrowing the Constitution (all the while claiming falsely that they are defending it), coming after our God-given rights, and attempting to falsely overthrow the will of the American people in the election of a properly elected President. It is a coup...nothing less.
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They have gone too far to ever walk this back and I don't mean just the impeachment. They have shown their hand in the poker game that has been the last 50 years and thank God for it. If they would have waited 20 more years enough of the baby boomers, the last generation that remembers true individual freedom, would be dead.

Now everyone needs to go to the polls next November and crush them hard. Defeat them so thoroughly that they fracture into two or three parties and cant become a threat for at least a generation
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Yup,Here it is Folks..Nothing but a Coup to place either Pelosi OR Hillary in the Presidency...We just have to figure out how to Stop this as the Ballot Box has Failed!!. Any ideas???.
Well, my first choice would have to be the "Ballot Box", I spent to much time involved in a past civil war (Vietnam, which most (CW's) in our lifetime have been promoted by the Globalist Deep State), to watch any more destruction here... unless there is no choice available!!!
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Well Teddyearp, I don't know if you've been to D.C. lately, but nobody just walks into a government building anymore.<snip>

What's worse, whether or not Trump wins in 2020, this will come in 2024. Trump will be the last Republican President. The demographics of the nation have changed and the Socialists are already in charge. Barring a hot civil war, there will be no stopping it.

As Caseyboy has correctly said, it will be long, ugly, violent and the outcome is uncertain. We shall learn if the spine of true, traditional, patriotic Americans is made of the same stuff as that of our founding fathers.
Oh Richard, I am fully aware of everything you speak of. I visited D.C. in Feb 2016. I guess I had too much to drink when I thought of this idea. It is a grandiose idea - a million plus unarmed people storming the Capitol building, overwhelming any security in place with just sheer numbers until we are inside filling the halls. What are they going to do, shoot us? Hehe, and then the ball would be wide open. Quite a pipe dream.

But, when we get to shooting, it is going to take MORE than a million of us anyways to finish it off, so why not a bit of a dream before hand?
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MCVet,

I thoroughly agree that the ballot box would be the best solution and CW the very last option. Problem is that the left is packing the election deck in at least four different ways.

1. They have been encouraging and betting on the illegal immigration invasion across our southern border to permanently change the demographics of America in their favor.

2. They have attempted to block every attempt to prevent voter fraud by challenging voter ID laws.

3. They have taken over nearly all of our institutions of higher education with predominantly left-wing professors who have turned the hearts and minds of our children into Socialist/Government control supporters and made them re-education camps to destroy the values their student's parents gave them and replace them with Socialism and its values. Why else do they want everyone in America to have a free college education?

4. They have "sweetened" the pot by offering free stuff to people (that will be paid for by other people's tax dollars): College, forgiveness of 1.3 Trillion dollars of student loans, guaranteed minimum income proposals, cell phones, subsidized housing, homeless shelters, etc.

Everyone is overjoyed to vote for free stuff for themselves as long as the money comes from the "evil" rich. Please note, that Socialism finds its foundation in nothing else but envy and covetousness.

Thus, many of us are beginning to lose faith in elections as a solution. That said I fully concur that as long as they are helpful to Constitutionalism, then by all means overwhelm them with votes in favor of liberty and free enterprise. When it becomes clear that elections are a rigged system, then CW begins to look like a more workable solution.
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Well, my first choice would have to be the "Ballot Box", I spent to much time involved in a past civil war (Vietnam, which most (CW's) in our lifetime have been promoted by the Globalist Deep State), to watch any more destruction here... unless there is no choice available!!!
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As long as the ballot box is fair and legitimate and the public accepts the results. When the other side decides that the ballot box isn't in their favor, ignores it and then uses every means to overturn the results, it becomes illegitimate. That is what we are seeing today.

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I am not trying to belittle anyone here but I don't honestly think all of this talk of CW 2.0 is anything more than a dream or a fallacy. Before you get mad hear me out. Everything that our government has done. Everything since 1934 when they enacted the NFA all the to now with this modern day overthrow of our country, has been signs of aggression (and acts of war). Yet all we do is sit on an internet forum discussing the possibility of a CW 2.0.

What is it going to take for the balloon to go up? Are they going to have to start executing people by the hundreds or thousands before anyone takes action? No it is too far gone for any action by the American people. They have us by the balls and they know it. And the whole time, we just sit here and talk about another Civil War, or whatever the topic of the day is. I agree with many of the posts on this board by those whom I consider much smarter than me or at least more wise to these situations than I am, but that is the way I see it. And still nothing gets done.
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Good Read!
“Goosebumps and Tears” (notes about “A Traitors Justice Episode 10…”)
https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/201...ce-episode-10/


A Traitors Justice Episode 10 Conclusion (VIDEO)
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I am not trying to belittle anyone here but I don't honestly think all of this talk of CW 2.0 is anything more than a dream or a fallacy. Before you get mad hear me out. Everything that our government has done. Everything since 1934 when they enacted the NFA all the to now with this modern day overthrow of our country, has been signs of aggression (and acts of war). Yet all we do is sit on an internet forum discussing the possibility of a CW 2.0.

What is it going to take for the balloon to go up? Are they going to have to start executing people by the hundreds or thousands before anyone takes action? No it is too far gone for any action by the American people. They have us by the balls and they know it. And the whole time, we just sit here and talk about another Civil War, or whatever the topic of the day is. I agree with many of the posts on this board by those whom I consider much smarter than me or at least more wise to these situations than I am, but that is the way I see it. And still nothing gets done.
Say Where And When to Meet then spread that around with a Plan to take it further!. Either save America or we become Slaves!.
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Say Where And When to Meet then spread that around with a Plan to take it further!. Either save America or we become Slaves!.
Brother, it is already too late. We already are and just have not realized it yet. If we were to do something like what is being suggested in this thread, how many people do yo actually would back us up? How many would just sit by and watch them kill us and go quietly into the night, saying that they thought we were radical and crazy and therefore would not participate with us? How many more would cheer our deaths as they do in other threads on here about lone wolf shooters? And how many of those lone wolf shooters do you really think were terrorist? Why, just because MSM said they were? we are all just puppets, with others pulling our strings. All is already lost, unless we were to develop an Army and had financial support then all of this talk of CW is a just a fantasy, and will never happen. And for the record, I do not wish anything like this to happen, but if it ever did I know which side I would choose. The side of the constitution. I bow to no man But the one being I do bow before, I made a promise to defend that constitution, or die trying. I am trying my best to do what I can to get unconstitutional laws overturned, but I am in a vast minority on this endeavor. Oh and one more thing, You may be willing but two people cannot go up against the resources of the left, so we would be shut down before we ever got started.
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The unforgivable act hasn't occurred yet in most peoples' eyes. If everything the left has done to the country over the last 60 years they had done overnight, you would see the balloon go up. Instead their tactic has been the boiling frog scenario. However, now they are getting very bold and I think/hope those people who haven't been paying attention are getting a long overdue education.

Gun purchases have reached another high.

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WASHINGTON – The FBI fielded more than 200,000 background checks on Black Friday gun purchases, continuing a steady surge this year following a series of mass shootings that have renewed calls for more restrictive gun laws.

In all, the bureau posted 202,465 checks Friday, an 11% increase from last year and falling just short of the single-day record: 203,086 in 2017.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...rs/4346609002/

Is this because people are afraid the left will confiscate their firearms? If so why buy guns that will be taken away later?

Or is it because people are preparing for war? Do we believe that our vote is meaningless and our options have been reduced to one?

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Our side is becoming more and more disillusioned with the non-action or open hostility of House and Senate republicans toward the President whom we elected. Our side is coming to believe that the Senate will stab us in the back like it always does. Mitch is up for election in 2020. Will he risk his job or will he side with us?
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Brother, it is already too late. We already are and just have not realized it yet. If we were to do something like what is being suggested in this thread, how many people do yo actually would back us up? How many would just sit by and watch them kill us and go quietly into the night, saying that they thought we were radical and crazy and therefore would not participate with us? How many more would cheer our deaths as they do in other threads on here about lone wolf shooters? And how many of those lone wolf shooters do you really think were terrorist? Why, just because MSM said they were? we are all just puppets, with others pulling our strings. All is already lost, unless we were to develop an Army and had financial support then all of this talk of CW is a just a fantasy, and will never happen. And for the record, I do not wish anything like this to happen, but if it ever did I know which side I would choose. The side of the constitution. I bow to no man But the one being I do bow before, I made a promise to defend that constitution, or die trying. I am trying my best to do what I can to get unconstitutional laws overturned, but I am in a vast minority on this endeavor. Oh and one more thing, You may be willing but two people cannot go up against the resources of the left, so we would be shut down before we ever got started.
Sorry my Brother but your defeatist post irks me. Are we to give up this Republic and just roll over and play dead as the left demolishes our Rights??. Are We The People to be subjugated by them,Disarmed,turned into slavery by the Demo Elite?. I say NO,it`s Never too late for a new Revolution to expunge those who would destroy America and turn it into a Third World S...hole. You either fight on your feet as a Man or live on your knees as a Slave. Liberty or Death,we`re back to that...Again!!!.
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https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...civil_war.html

I've heard or read most of it before. Fast forward to the comments to get a feel for what the masses think.

869 comments on an essay not a day old.
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‘Fix bayonets’, exemplifies the American spirit when the stakes are at their highest.
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Nancy Pelosi has no familiarity with that spirit; neither do Obama, Hillary, Brennan, Comey, McCabe, Rosenstein, Strzok, Mueller, Schiff and Nadler, nor their Democrat-operatives-with-bylines that constitute the MSM. But it exists, and it’s still out there in the heartland, and there is absolutely nothing even remotely comparable to it as a counterweight on the side of the transparently ridiculous, contrived, despicable impeachment scam
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Let’s hope Nancy & Co. pull back from the precipice, vote down or abandon the impeachment with a simple “we still despise him and believe he is unfit to be President, but impeachment doesn’t fit, and censure is enough”, and stop this assault on America.

If she won’t, and the Senate continues with this farce in just about any form, the spirit of Colonel Joshua Chamberlain may come alive in millions of Americans who have had enough.
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Good Read and it just may be time to Fix Bayonets once again to save our Republic...Think About It!.
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Sorry my Brother but your defeatist post irks me. Are we to give up this Republic and just roll over and play dead as the left demolishes our Rights??. Are We The People to be subjugated by them,Disarmed,turned into slavery by the Demo Elite?. I say NO,it`s Never too late for a new Revolution to expunge those who would destroy America and turn it into a Third World S...hole. You either fight on your feet as a Man or live on your knees as a Slave. Liberty or Death,we`re back to that...Again!!!.
it is not so much a defeatist point of view so much as it is a realistic point of view.

As I said before, You and I are but 2 men, what could we ever hope to accomplish against a far superior enemy?

We would be dead before the day is through and it would be announced on MSM that we were just two more "Crazy" people, and the masses would be cheering.

How many times on here have you seen a lone shooter that shot up a military base (not that I believe they were right) and other posters on here say well at least he is dead?

And even you and I are guilty of just that.

Who is to say that the guy doing the shooting is not another patriot being painted as a radical by MSM? How do we know what his motive was unless he leaves a manifesto of some sorts?

The truth of the matter is that unless we are aligned with a large number of like minded folks, and we are well organized, much like the military, and too that we are well funded, there is not much we can do.

I have been fighting for 23 years to get my firearm rights restored, even though the laws that prohibit me from legally owning a firearm are completely unconstitutional.

That means I have not picked up a firearm in more than 23 years. How effective do you really think I would be if you were to put one in my hand right now?

I really wish I could be more optimistic about this situation, and if anything ever did turn hot, I would violate the law and do my best to protect the Republic and the constitution. But I just do not see enough of us banding together and I definitely do not see the funding it would require to launch such a campaign.

So realistically, there is nothing that is going to happen. I like to think that maybe it will and the constitution will be victorious in abolishing all laws that violate it and all those that would oppress us. But as above, unless we become organized, funded and disciplined, that will never happen. All we will do about it is just talk on some internet forum.

If that bothers yo then I apologize but that is the way I see it and is only my opinion. If you know a way to change it, by all means feel free to pm me and let me know.
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