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View Poll Results: Where are you on the political scale?
Far Right Conservative (old fashioned kind) 63 32.81%
Conservative 58 30.21%
Right of Center on most issues 37 19.27%
Middle of the road. Hate to commit. 4 2.08%
Left of Center on most issues. 5 2.60%
Classic Liberal 5 2.60%
Far Left Socialist 1 0.52%
Raving Left Wing Lunatic/SJW/Communist 0 0%
Other -- Please Explain 17 8.85%
Brain Dead 2 1.04%
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You would think that. But apparently not.
Your going to have to explain what you mean.
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You would think that. But apparently not.
Your going to have to explain what you mean.
Ok it goes all the way back to me suggesting Jesus might be left wing.

And one of the counters to that is he didn't demand money via force. E.g. tax.

Now considering if you don't do what Jesus wants you go to hell. I am suggesting that it is basically the same thing as tax.

So for example.

"This is no semantic game. Donating your own money is precisely the opposite of someone taking your money. There's no way to twist them to be equal."

So if you donate your money to avoid jail that would be a voluntary donation. Right?
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Ok it goes all the way back to me suggesting Jesus might be left wing.

And one of the counters to that is he didn't demand money via force. E.g. tax.

Now considering if you don't do what Jesus wants you go to hell. I am suggesting that it is basically the same thing as tax.

So for example.

"This is no semantic game. Donating your own money is precisely the opposite of someone taking your money. There's no way to twist them to be equal."

So if you donate your money to avoid jail that would be a voluntary donation. Right?
No, that would be the government using the threat of jail to force you.

With religion you can take your chances and not donate or just not beleive. With taxes you have no choice.
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Most of the answers are pretty much the same. Classic liberal is in the middle and is both conservative and liberal. Amazes me on how many people dont understand true freedom
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God set the rules about entry into Heaven, right from the beginning. To the best of my knowledge, those rules haven't changed.

Government changes the rules to suit it's wants.

Sometimes the rules are of benefit to society as a whole, but an overwhelming majority of time, its only to benefit a segment of society for the subsequent casting of votes on election day.
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Most of the answers are pretty much the same. Classic liberal is in the middle and is both conservative and liberal. Amazes me on how many people dont understand true freedom
Classic Liberal is closer to modern Libertarian. The left co-opted (stole) the term.
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I don't care what its called, what about the tax benefits?
What about the benefits of being a family member in the
eyes of the law?

Like I said, already, I am against any Church being forced to marry Gays
but believe the 'Union" should be legal at a Justice of the peace.
I can agree with the title "civil union" --- but not "marriage" (in the case of homosexual cohabitation). In the plumbing industry a "marriage" is a union between a male and a female fitting. In human terms, it has historically been the union of a man with a woman.

The animal kingdom is much wiser than humans. They know which sex to pair themselves with (with very, very few exceptions). To choose a "mate" of the same sex requires a skewed and perverted view of "nature."

But I agree that churches should NEVER be required to "marry" a set of queers anymore than a baker should be required to bake their cake.

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Ok it goes all the way back to me suggesting Jesus might be left wing.

And one of the counters to that is he didn't demand money via force. E.g. tax.

Now considering if you don't do what Jesus wants you go to hell. I am suggesting that it is basically the same thing as tax.

So for example.

"This is no semantic game. Donating your own money is precisely the opposite of someone taking your money. There's no way to twist them to be equal."

So if you donate your money to avoid jail that would be a voluntary donation. Right?

Nope! If someone is holding a hammer over my head then my "choice" is forced by duress.

In terms of the consequences for accepting or rejecting Christ which are heaven or hell, it's still a free choice. There are some people who willingly accept Satan as their personal god and there are others who don't even believe in an afterlife. So rejecting Christ is as easy for them and not done under duress.
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I am a political realist. I realize that ALL political ideologies work against my best interest. Therefore I have no use for any of them because everyone of them are liars and thieves stealing everything they can. I realized a long time ago that voting is a waste of time and the right versus left arguments are just to keep the masses thinking they have a choice. The deep state types and the bankers are the real rulers of the planet. It does not matter whom is in power Republican or Democrats both are just different parts of a 2 headed snake.
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I am a political realist. I realize that ALL political ideologies work against my best interest. Therefore I have no use for any of them because everyone of them are liars and thieves stealing everything they can. I realized a long time ago that voting is a waste of time and the right versus left arguments are just to keep the masses thinking they have a choice. The deep state types and the bankers are the real rulers of the planet. It does not matter whom is in power Republican or Democrats both are just different parts of a 2 headed snake.

I agree. It's why I'm neither Democrat OR Republican. I'm registered Constitution Party but don't really participate in their meetings for forums. They just seem to match my ideology better than the others. If I had it my way ... I would have my own country and I would be the only citizen. I would be both the king and the pauper. I would set the laws and enforce them.


The older I get (headed for 60) the less seriously I take all of this political nonsense. Prophecy is already set and these idiots lose in the long run -- all of them! My goal is to literally find a place as far away from the grid and the cities as I can find. I hope to live out my last days fishing.
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I agree. It's why I'm neither Democrat OR Republican. I'm registered Constitution Party but don't really participate in their meetings for forums. They just seem to match my ideology better than the others. If I had it my way ... I would have my own country and I would be the only citizen. I would be both the king and the pauper. I would set the laws and enforce them.


The older I get (headed for 60) the less seriously I take all of this political nonsense. Prophecy is already set and these idiots lose in the long run -- all of them! My goal is to literally find a place as far away from the grid and the cities as I can find. I hope to live out my last days fishing.
I am 59 and since the nation I was born in no longer exist. I am now living in Rural Hungary because I wanted to get out of the line of fire of what I see happening. I am disabled and am unable to do much anymore. I too am living out my last days. I enjoy the fresh air in the country, spending time with my dogs and trying to take care of myself. About the only fight left in me is trying to wake up my friends but they don't care about anything but watching sports on TV, having beer in the refrigerator and their pathetic jobs. So I just sit on the sidelines waiting for the other shoe to drop.

You are right about prophecy and they do lose in the end but sadly we have to endure a lot before that happens.
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OK. Who clicked brain dead?
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OK. Who clicked brain dead?
The entire Democrat party.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...549_story.html

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The government should definitely put a limit on religious rights....
You must be strictly speaking of Australia.

Most churches are both religious and charitable corporations. To limit a charity simply because such is associated with a religion, unnecessarily discriminates against religion. With that stated, the various American governments already do, albeit limited and reasonable exceptions are made.

Given their history, I would very much like to see the Church of Scientology become limited, but understand the slippery slope that would create for all religions and all parishioners.
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And it is decided by a poll because at a certain saturation point you can just take over a community?

You know the group that accusation gets leveled at. Right?


And yeah it depends on the topic whether I have a traditional left or right viewpoint.
Polls record votes. Votes determine elections. Elections are won or lost based on which ideology that most "saturates" a community. So, yes, communities generally represent the voice of them that saturate it. Better than dictatorships!
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I've been a registered member for years!! We hardly stand a chance of winning many elections but that's because Truth & The Constitution have fallen out of vogue.
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