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Old 06-01-2019, 04:47 PM
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I don't use google anything, but for those that use Chrome, this might be of interest to you..

https://news.yahoo.com/google-quietl...212004948.html


Google is evil..
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When is the Chrome ruining update suppose to take effect? The article makes it sound like its already happened but I havent had any issues with add blocker.

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The whole digital world is evil. I'm running chrome and my adblocker is still working good. I'm sure that the adblock people will keep up, might take them a few days. The job security for the anti-virus folks are the hackers.
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I don't use chrome several reasons. I'm a technical support agent for a nationwide ISP, chrome and firefox have the most problems...
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Windows 7, and all updates and auto installs are turned off. I have gotten a few alerts for browsers and such but decline installs. I also have restores that go back years, never needed one yet.

I am sure some day if not already there is a stealth mod in it.

I dont even try to keep up anymore, that is a young brains game.
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I never did like chrome since they tried to take over as my default browser without my permission.
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I am not a big fan of Chrome either. However, at work we've a number of applications that seem to work best on Chrome, they are broken in IE11, and marginal at best in FF.
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I don't see how they can make it any worse. I refuse to use it or anything else to do with google.
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Google isn’t evil. It is a company that sells internet ads. You shouldn’t be surprised that the application it gives away for free would display ads.
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I don't use chrome several reasons. I'm a technical support agent for a nationwide ISP, chrome and firefox have the most problems...
I'm just curious... Which browsers work the best in your opinion?

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Google isn’t evil. It is a company that sells internet ads. You shouldn’t be surprised that the application it gives away for free would display ads.
I suppose you're fine then with Google tracking you?
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Google isn’t evil. It is a company that sells internet ads. You shouldn’t be surprised that the application it gives away for free would display ads.
It isn't the ads, it's the spying. The INTENT is not evil, but the result kinda is.

I don't use Chrome because of it, but I have an Android phone so I can't complain too much.

However, some of the spying can be mitigated. Not all of it, but you might as well turn off all of the spying that you CAN turn off:

https://safety.google/privacy/privacy-controls/

If you haven't done this yet, sign into Gmail or something, go here and see how much they track your location:

https://www.google.com/maps/timeline?pb

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This is exactly right. The level of tracking Google does is probably making the NSA jealous. For example, I will sometimes VPN into the corporate network via the VPN tunnel hosted in PRG. Using Chrome, not too long before ads start popping up in Czech. Same as when I tunnel in via the tunnel in Malaysia. Never mind I am US-based. Love it.
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At least for Chrome users, consider Iridium.

For Firefox users, Waterfox.

Both strip off privacy issues, including telemetry.

Waterfox allows for legacy add-ons plus configuring the interface the way you want (e.g., status and vertical toolbar, classical theme, etc.).

For adblockers, there's uBlock Origin with multiple lists, including those from Nano Defender. For other security addons, there's NoScript, CanvasBlocker, Decentraleyes, Privacy Possum, Tunnel Bear blocker, and more.
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So I just downloaded Opera. Free VPN and ad blocking built in. It can run on lenox. Looks interesting. Speed test showed a large ping (about 10x) but download was normal and upload was about half normal for here. Watching youtube was the same as always - fine.
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Google isn’t evil. It is a company that sells internet ads. You shouldn’t be surprised that the application it gives away for free would display ads.
Nothing to truly free with Google. Everything they offer "for free" is spyware. Their TOS (terms of service), which no one reads, clearly states that they can use any information they gather from any of their services for any purpose they wish. You have no right to privacy when using any Google product.

That includes GMail. I only use GMail for newsletters and junk mail.

I ran a white hat SEO company for several years. I once ran a test that proved how Chrome was spyware that reported every web page you visited back to Google. Google uses Chrome as a spider to find new web sites. I set up several hidden web pages in various sites. There were no links to the hidden pages and no way for a user or a search engine spider to find them. I waited a week and kept checking Google's index. The hidden pages showed up in Google within 24 hours after visiting the pages with Chrome. They never showed up in Yahoo or Bing.

I'm also a former Google Partner for AdWords advertising. AdWords is Google's cash cow. They get over 95% of their revenue from advertising.

There is only one thing to keep in mind when it comes to Google. Google is not your friend.
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Hate to say but I would in Networking engineering for a while and different computer sciences over the years and no matter what you do your ISP tracks you. Unless you use a VPN every second you have your internet open. If you don't believe me ask your ISP for a list of sites you visited. And then the VPN client doesn't always work like people think it does.

As far as google chrome. I use it, but I am forced to with the work I do and the programs and links I have to tie to websites and programs.
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From what I know, Opera is now being developed by a Chinese company.

Iridium is backed by the Open Source Business Alliance and strips off all telemetry from Chromium.

Waterfox is developed by one programmer with volunteers, is also open source, and strips off all telemetry from the Mozilla code.

The latter has the additional ability of allowing users to modify the interface, like using a classical theme, as well as use legacy addons like vertical and status toolbars.
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It isn't the ads, it's the spying. The INTENT is not evil, but the result kinda is.
I don't consider Google's "spying" to be "evil" for a few reasons:

1. It's not secret. We all know that everyone is collecting data as we browse the web

2. It's optional. You don't really "have" to use the internet at all. If you do, there are some hoops to jump through to limit Google's ability to track you, as you suggested. Granted, Google's programmers are likely to be better than everyone else's, so there is sort of an "arms race" on ad blockers and VPNs... but they are something.

3. It's useful (to me, at least). I like having so much content on the web delivered at no direct cost, but as you say, nothing id REALLY free. If ads and some personal information are the cost of having a service like Google Search or YouTube available, I will gladly make that trade.

Also, I like to have ads delivered that I am actually interested in. On the sites that do it best, more than half the things advertised are things that I might actually want. That's handy. A few weeks ago, somehow the e-commerce oracles knew that I was going to need some safety glasses. (Maybe from my searching for chainsaw and mower reviews... or maybe from some other magic.) However, they did it, the ads came at just the right time and led me to a good deal on Amazon. Win-win-win.

It is probable that these perfectly served ads cause some consumers to buy things they don't REALLY need. That's free enterprise for ya.




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I don't use chrome several reasons. I'm a technical support agent for a nationwide ISP, chrome and firefox have the most problems...
What browsers do you recommend?
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