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Iím building may first Ar-15. I have an Essential Arms lower and was wondering what a good upper would be for completing my rifle?

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What would you like to do with the completed rifle? Hunt? What kinds of animals? Plink? Etc...
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In order for any one to help you out I think your gonna have to give more specifics, ie. CQB, Hunting, Long Range (well as long as a 223 will take you), Home Defense, SHTF, etc....
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Check out DPMS I used theirs for my last build.
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In order for any one to help you out I think your gonna have to give more specifics, ie. CQB, Hunting, Long Range (well as long as a 223 will take you), Home Defense, SHTF, etc....
What he said.

IF you can afford several uppers why not have at least two ?
One M4gery for CQB and a flat top in 6.8 to reach out ?
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Iím building may first Ar-15. I have an Essential Arms lower and was wondering what a good upper would be for completing my rifle?

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A2 carry handle or a flattop version? Standard or M4 cut barrel? It does make a diff in the upper. We need more details of wat you are wanting.
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There are a lot of good uppers out there but first you have decisions to make. If you're going 5.56 I would look carefully at a midlength gas system. Definitely go flattop and direct impingment unless you have a good reason not to. I went with the 16" ArmaLite U15A4CB middy with a railed gas block. Ended up with a very flexible rifle.
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iam thinking of a 16'' cromelined barrel flattop - later on i would like to add a 6.8, but as of now just a 223
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iam thinking of a 16' cromelined barrel flattop - later on i would like to add a 6.8, but as of now just a 223
Okay fargo, your just not a specifics guy are you. In building a rifle (to your specs) you need to have some idea of the finished product. 16" chrome bbl on a flat top receiver are a dime a dozen, everybody has them.

What do you want the rifle to do for you?
What weight rounds? We have a better idea what twist to recommend.
Do you plan on putting optics on it? If so what power, red dot, 1-4 power, out to 10 power?
What type of forend do you plan on using? Standard CAR, Railed?
What type of stock? Standard A2, adjustable?

You have to give us atleast a little idea of what you plan on using the rifle for if nothing else.
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I got a kit from www.akpartskits.com (black thorn) and everyone will tell you stay away from them. I had good luck with mine no problems.

My Essential Arms lower had an extra coat on it and so did the bolt release part from akpartskit.com and I need to take a little of the finish of the bolt release part and then it will work just fine. The gun fires without that just use the charging handle.

If you order one from them ask for a shrouded bolt carrier as Im told the ones unshrouded have issue with a lot of the ammo.

I can shoot both 223/5.56 in mine.

The next place to look is Del-Ton they are maybe 80-100 bucks more for a kit.

I have a video on youtube of my AR just type in Black Thorn AR and you will find it.
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Iím building may first Ar-15. I have an Essential Arms lower and was wondering what a good upper would be for completing my rifle?

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ArmaLite is forged 7075 T6, uppers and lowers.
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http://www.ar15sales.com/

Call this guy, high quality stuff and some of the best prices around. I got 2 uppers from him, complete w/ bolt / carrier and charging handle.
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I'm in the process of building a budget-esque K.I.S.S carbine myself. I just recieved my DS Arms upper last week. It's a nitride treated flat-top, 16" barrel, carbine length gas system, 1/9 twist, with a stantard fixed front sight post, and a bayo lug. The quality appears to be excellent.

DA Arms is known for their high quality FAL products, and now they're trying to break into the AR market. In their attempts to do so, they've got some killer deals going right now. I only paid $275 for my upper, and they've got the parkerized version for $265! I don't recall the prices, but they've also got some deals on a few chrome lined middy's as well.

Their customer service is a bit lacking, and I know they're backed up on the nitrided uppers. Took me about 3 months to get mine. But I've heard the parkerized uppers ship in about 2 days. Bottom line though, I'd say their quality matches that of other uppers on the market that cost a couple hundred dollars more. Definitely check them out.
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well as long its mil spec its hard to go wrong i have a complete stag arms and it runs like no other i cant believe its DI it runs so good, but any of the big manufacturers should do fine, dpms,bushmaster, rra, olympic, my dad had a rock river that was nice no problems with it as long as it was maintained which is any DI (direct impingment) AR my stag seems to be a lil les picky to ammo and being clean in general i put 800rds of wolf ammo thru it with only a few brl swabs in between no gas tube cleaning or anything and that SOB kept on running til i bought sum crappy mags that it hung up on
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Mil Spec is a term incorrectly used in most of the firearms community, Mil Spec refers to a very specific manufacturing process that only two manufactures can actually claim.

Colt and FN are the only rifle built to mil spec. They use the correct barrel steel and the correct twist. They mag particle test all the barrels and bolts. They have an on sight military inspector that gives them the mil spec stamp of approval.

What every one else builds is called close to mil spec or built to military dimensions. Some build closer to mil spec , some build anything but. That in no way means they are not great weapons, it just means they are not mil spec.

Now my goal is always to get as close to mil spec as possible, so far the best uppers I have found or closes to mil spec are Colt, CMMG, SaberDefence(M4 version only), FN (If you can find it), these guys build as close to mil spec without an onsite inspector, and may in some cases may do a mag particle test on lots rather then each barrel and bolt.

There is some great articles about this subject online.



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im sorry but stag keeps to this spec aswell!!!
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im not talking m4 profile barrels so u can look like u have an m4, by this i mean attachung a 37mm or 40mm launcher im talkin inner workings!!! bolt bolt carrier, barrel, chamber, rate of twist, etc.!!
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I just finished my first AR build and here is what I did.
MEGA Gator lower with RRA LPK
Del-Ton upper 20" HBAR with BCG and 1X9 twist flat top with carry handle
RRA A2 Buttstock
I got to take it out and test fire it yesterday for function. The local indoor range is only 25 yards but it is better than nothing. Out of 100 rounds I had zero malfunctions of any type. Its pretty much sighted in at 25 but I need to go further before I feel real comfortable with it. Just my personal experience with these products. I also have a Colt A2 that I really like. The Colt is an M4gery but each of these rifles have a different use. Just something to think about.
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well man if its sighted at 25 its prolly gonna still shoot flat at 100 but u need to check things out any way
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