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alco141 11-02-2019 04:59 AM

california nights of terror
 
https://www.omaha.com/news/national/...e98dc0541.html

what is happening when the lights are out in cali. be forwarned

TRyan 11-02-2019 02:59 PM

This is a crystal ball look into what it would be like with a major disaster or attack. These people should use this as a learning exercise.

Although I'm not currently affected I do live in CA and am better suited to handle this than these people. Turn a negative into a positive.

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NW GUY 11-02-2019 03:02 PM

BE A GREAT teaching article to use ...if... you could actually teach people something.

Hilltopper 11-02-2019 03:41 PM

Mogli could have given them a lesson on how exactly to step up to the plate and be prepared for evacuation and living in those conditions. Nothing is handed to you, you must invest , build up your preps to be resilient .

Snyper708 11-02-2019 04:32 PM

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Following the last blackout, he realized he couldn’t afford to be closed that long. It forced him to burn through the savings he had squirreled away for the upcoming slow months. So he hunted down a generator 100 miles away in Yuba City and paid $1,700 for it.

It takes about 12 gallons of gas at a time and runs only for six hours.

That means he had to come in at 3 a.m. each day or it would shut off and he would lose all his food. But gas became scarce — there were no open stations in town.
He could have bought a new Honda 2200i for less and it would run nearly twice as long on just one gallon of gas.

Justme11 11-02-2019 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snyper708 (Post 19857356)
He could have bought a new Honda 2200i for less and it would run nearly twice as long on just one gallon of gas.

Sounded like the guy was trying to run his restaurant on the genny.
The restaurant I worked at as a kid had.

2 - Walk-in Freezers
Walk-in fridge
Air conditioning
Lights
Exhaust fans.
electric griddle
toaster
Heat lamps
Warming drawers for potatoes
Big convection Oven
3 deep fryers
Commercial ice machine
smaller fridges on prep line.
Industrial dishwasher
Misc food processors, mixers, blenders.
Several coffee machines.

So that would need a big generator. probably 30 kW to limp along (or much more if running normally),or 15 times larger than a 2 kw.
Would only need to run the refrigeration units at night, but during the day we used a lot of power (and natural gas for the broilers. )

Tactical Lever 11-02-2019 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justme11 (Post 19857372)
Sounded like the guy was trying to run his restaurant on the genny.
The restaurant I worked at as a kid had.

2 - Walk-in Freezers
Walk-in fridge
Air conditioning
Lights
Exhaust fans.
electric griddle
toaster
Heat lamps
Warming drawers for potatoes
Big convection Oven
3 deep fryers
Commercial ice machine
smaller fridges on prep line.
Industrial dishwasher
Misc food processors, mixers, blenders.
Several coffee machines.

So that would need a big generator. probably 30 kW to limp along (or much more if running normally),or 15 times larger than a 2 kw.
Would only need to run the refrigeration units at night, but during the day we used a lot of power (and natural gas for the broilers. )

Couldn't view it for some reason. Removed?

You'd think that a person would shut down some of the big electricity hogs, if he's having trouble keeping it full. The fridges and freezers rotating load shouldn't be that high.

Tactical Lever 11-02-2019 05:34 PM

Or maybe he was? Maybe too small a generator.

You'd kind of think some Californians would be happy to do their bit...

RedTail 11-02-2019 05:54 PM

SMH at people saying they can't bathe, do laundry, or wash dishes.

Bigger concern is crime. Hood rats know that when the lights go out, so do security systems and cameras.

https://i.ibb.co/pnqGdnT/purge.jpg

Justme11 11-02-2019 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Tactical Lever (Post 19857432)
Couldn't view it for some reason. Removed?

You'd think that a person would shut down some of the big electricity hogs, if he's having trouble keeping it full. The fridges and freezers rotating load shouldn't be that high.

It was in the OP article.

"Jose Arevalo owns the Country Kitchen restaurant in Clearlake Oaks, a town of about six blocks and 2,000 people along Highway 20. He estimates that after being closed for four days, he could lose more than $10,000.

Following the last blackout, he realized he couldn’t afford to be closed that long. It forced him to burn through the savings he had squirreled away for the upcoming slow months. So he hunted down a generator 100 miles away in Yuba City and paid $1,700 for it. It takes about 12 gallons of gas at a time and runs only for six hours. That means he had to come in at 3 a.m. each day or it would shut off and he would lose all his food. But gas became scarce — there were no open stations in town.

“It’s stressful,” he said. “You have to get (money) from somewhere else to continue to pay the bills.”"

dontbuypotteryfromme 11-02-2019 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snyper708 (Post 19857356)
Quote:

Following the last blackout, he realized he couldn’t afford to be closed that long. It forced him to burn through the savings he had squirreled away for the upcoming slow months. So he hunted down a generator 100 miles away in Yuba City and paid $1,700 for it.

It takes about 12 gallons of gas at a time and runs only for six hours.

That means he had to come in at 3 a.m. each day or it would shut off and he would lose all his food. But gas became scarce — there were no open stations in town.
He could have bought a new Honda 2200i for less and it would run nearly twice as long on just one gallon of gas.

Ever tried to buy a generator in a blackout?

You get the one you get and walk away happy.

dontbuypotteryfromme 11-02-2019 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedTail (Post 19857454)
SMH at people saying they can't bathe, do laundry, or wash dishes.

Bigger concern is crime. Hood rats know that when the lights go out, so do security systems and cameras.

https://i.ibb.co/pnqGdnT/purge.jpg

Showering is my big issue. Time doesn't stop. I still have to go to work and that no shower issue kills me.

We thankfully don't have the crime issues.

dontbuypotteryfromme 11-02-2019 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justme11 (Post 19857372)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Snyper708 (Post 19857356)
He could have bought a new Honda 2200i for less and it would run nearly twice as long on just one gallon of gas.

Sounded like the guy was trying to run his restaurant on the genny.
The restaurant I worked at as a kid had.

2 - Walk-in Freezers
Walk-in fridge
Air conditioning
Lights
Exhaust fans.
electric griddle
toaster
Heat lamps
Warming drawers for potatoes
Big convection Oven
3 deep fryers
Commercial ice machine
smaller fridges on prep line.
Industrial dishwasher
Misc food processors, mixers, blenders.
Several coffee machines.

So that would need a big generator. probably 30 kW to limp along (or much more if running normally),or 15 times larger than a 2 kw.
Would only need to run the refrigeration units at night, but during the day we used a lot of power (and natural gas for the broilers. )

Yeah but you start to cheat. Run simpler menus and the like. I know restaurants that were running barbecues when our power went out.

Cornly2 11-02-2019 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dontbuypotteryfromme (Post 19857486)
Ever tried to buy a generator in a blackout?

You get the one you get and walk away happy.

I've never had to do that. I'm prepared.

But then again I don't live in a socialist "paradise" like California or Australia where apparently stuff like this is normal.

SeaBeeDaddy 11-02-2019 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRyan (Post 19857252)
This is a crystal ball look into what it would be like with a major disaster or attack. These people should use this as a learning exercise.

Although I'm not currently affected I do live in CA and am better suited to handle this than these people. Turn a negative into a positive.

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You would think it would be a learning exercise but this is in the OP article:

Quote:

Our 11th disaster in four years was brought not by wildfire, not by flood, but by the negligence and abuse of authority of the Pacific Gas & Electric Co. and the California Public Utilities Commission,” county and city leaders wrote Wednesday in a letter to the CPUC.
Not to pick on them, since they article seems to cherry pick people with hardships and financial issues. I have plenty of friends and family in Low Country SC that never prepare even after experiencing hurricane scares and tropical storms every year for decades. And they have plenty of money and time to do so.

I have been thinking about adding another small generator as a backup-backup or loaner for a while now. I regularly watch the box store apps and peruse their stores and the base NEX taking note of the prices and inventory. I thought all the fire headlines would have a run on generators even though we are not in PGE territory.

Nope. They'll sit there until the lights go out.

swamppapa 11-02-2019 08:11 PM

Unarmed, cold, scared, in the dark, sounds just like how every noneqitorial communist likes things.

bunkerbuster 11-02-2019 08:29 PM

If you live in a potential forest fire type zone. You prep to defend your property & buildings.
(if you are wise, that is)

Given the huge forest type fires in California, over the last years.
It's not like those there, didn't have advance warning.

Our 18.86 acre isolated off-grid BOL refuge is situated in an old growth timbered forest.
Nearest neighbor is 15 miles distant & utilities & more neighbors are 35 miles distant

Our biggest fear has always been a FOREST FIRE.

We have PREPPED our BOL against forest fires for 20 years.

25 KW off-grid 24/7/365 hydroelectric power.
25 KW diesel generator & 1000 gallon buried fuel tank.

We clear, stack & burn surrounding underbrush more & more every year.
We have an irrigation type high pressure sprinkler system surrounding our pasture, garden & buildings.

We have saturation type sprinkler systems on ALL our BOL buildings.
We didn't do that all at once, but over many years.
So, it wasn't all that labor & capitol intensive all at once.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/JganzS.jpg

roseman 11-02-2019 08:38 PM

Nice sprinkler setup.

Nomad, 2nd 11-02-2019 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cornly2 (Post 19857518)
I've never had to do that. I'm prepared.

But then again I don't live in a socialist "paradise" like California or Australia where apparently stuff like this is normal.

...what a revolutionary concept!!!!:thumb:

Cornly2 11-02-2019 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nomad, 2nd (Post 19857680)
...what a revolutionary concept!!!!:thumb:

Seriously, you know? It's entire point of this site. What the hell?


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