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kmussack 01-31-2019 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FarmerChad (Post 19317924)
Weedinhoe... Im curious what your lighting schedule for the Brassicas is? 16 hours of light?

Im really struggling out in the greenhouse. Im starting to believe that the daylight hours arent nearly enough for good growth. My Brassicas are puny in comparison to yours.

FWIW, I run my grow lights 3-hours in the morning and 3-hours in the evening to keep things on an even keel when the days are short.

When the weather is overcast I'll run the lights 24/7. It makes a huge difference.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/...psx9pwxxlg.jpg

FarmerChad 01-31-2019 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kmussack (Post 19318110)
FWIW, I run my grow lights 3-hours in the morning and 3-hours in the evening to keep things on an even keel when the days are short.

When the weather is overcast I'll run the lights 24/7. It makes a huge difference.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/...psx9pwxxlg.jpg

Very useful, thank you. Are you using MH or HPS?

I really wouldnt mind something in the LED realm, lots of confusing info out there. Right now, I still have my trusty T8s.

Weedinhoe 01-31-2019 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FarmerChad (Post 19317924)
Weedinhoe... Im curious what your lighting schedule for the Brassicas is? 16 hours of light?

Im really struggling out in the greenhouse. Im starting to believe that the daylight hours arent nearly enough for good growth. My Brassicas are puny in comparison to yours.

The lighting is really technical. :rolleyes: I turn the lamps on when I get up ~7am and turn them off sometime in the evening, usually around 10pm, so about 13-14 hours.

After reading lighting discussions both here (I think) and at another site, last year I switched from the T12's with cool white tubes to T8 fixtures. Each fixture has one each of these:

https://i.imgur.com/LEeKeV5.jpg

I'm not sure the plants grow any faster but they do need a bit more watering.

Edited to add that I've found I need to turn the plants 180 degrees every morning as they slightly lean towards one of the tubes. Haven't stopped to see which one yet. :)

Weedinhoe 01-31-2019 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by n1d (Post 19317972)
Brassicas, Brassica oh my!

Ya'll ~r~ garden snobs............

Round these parts we call em cabbage, coliflower' and other greens......... :D:

LOL! It's just easier to say brassicas or cole crops than to keep saying "broccoli, broccolini, cabbage, cauliflower, kale and collards", all of which I'm growing. :D:

Besides, I worked at a wholesale nursery for 18 years so old habits are hard to break. ;)

FarmerChad 01-31-2019 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Weedinhoe (Post 19318376)
The lighting is really technical. :rolleyes: I turn the lamps on when I get up ~7am and turn them off sometime in the evening, usually around 10pm, so about 13-14 hours.

After reading lighting discussions both here (I think) and at another site, last year I switched from the T12's with cool white tubes to T8 fixtures. Each fixture has one each of these:

https://i.imgur.com/LEeKeV5.jpg

I'm not sure the plants grow any faster but they do need a bit more watering.

Edited to add that I've found I need to turn the plants 180 degrees every morning as they slightly lean towards one of the tubes. Haven't stopped to see which one yet. :)

Thanks. I was just really curious. I did setup the old t8s I have in the GH, hoping to see some quick results.

In regards to the plants leaning, I would bet my bottom dollar they are leaning towards the Daylight Bulb. It has a Kelvin Rating of 6500K. They will like that. Matter of fact, all my T8s are outfitted with Daylight bulbs. I never bothered to mix different ones.

Weedinhoe 02-01-2019 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by FarmerChad (Post 19318756)
In regards to the plants leaning, I would bet my bottom dollar they are leaning towards the Daylight Bulb. It has a Kelvin Rating of 6500K. They will like that. Matter of fact, all my T8s are outfitted with Daylight bulbs. I never bothered to mix different ones.

The only reason I have two kinds of bulbs in one fixture is because several folks in that discussion I referenced said using the two different ones would provide a nearly full light light spectrum. Sounded like a good thing. I should try two daylights in one fixture and see if there's any final difference.

The whole thing's probably one of those "the more things change, the more they stay the same" things. My seedlings grew fine under the old T12's too. :D:

kmussack 02-01-2019 02:17 PM

Currently using Metal Halide bulbs.

Weedinhoe 02-03-2019 02:35 PM

Spring's Coming
 
It's a mild 63 out there today and cloudy with just a hint of breeze. It's perfect for starting the hardening off process for the first round of brassicas so out they go. Next to them is the window box of parsley that has been doing well for a year now but it's getting a bit worn out. In fact, it was seeded exactly one year ago today. Time to start another as this batch will be going to seed by summer.

https://i.imgur.com/605Fksj.jpg

The lemon balm is coming back up around the compost bins. I don't think it really ever takes a time out. In about a month it will be everywhere again.

https://i.imgur.com/AygNfre.jpg

The Winter Daphne has its first bloom. Such a sweet scent!

https://i.imgur.com/HpyOpk2.jpg

And this morning 5th Gear brought in the first daffodill of the year.

https://i.imgur.com/jUdKGsF.jpg

Spring's coming!

Weedinhoe 02-05-2019 05:57 PM

Wow, it got up to a record 81 today. It's to be almost that for the next two days before heading to the 50's again. I hope it cools off because I don't want the nematodes waking up in warm weather. The plan was to set the brassicas out early so they could be almost finished or more mature before soil temps warmed up too much. They'll be planted out next Monday.

5th Gear and I were in an Ingles grocery this morning and I wanted to show her the display of spices they had in small plastic containers. It was gone. But on closer inspection there was a small section of that display that had a few boxes left, wrapped in fours with a $1.99 price sticker on them. Talk about a clearance! We got the last two four packs of mustard seed (28 oz total) and the last four pack of rubbed sage so we're now set for pickling season and sausage making. :D They'll be kept in the freezer.

https://i.imgur.com/N6veCLM.jpg

FarmerChad 02-06-2019 06:54 AM

Damn, thats a good price on the Mustard Seed. And I use a good bit in the Sausage Enterprise. :D:

Weedinhoe 02-07-2019 05:49 PM

Today was another warm one, up to 83. Right now the peeper frogs are singing and having another love fest out there. This morning I finished forking the bed I started yesterday. It was full of crape myrtle roots that had crept in; a real pain in the butt.

I'm worried about the soil temps getting into nematode territory. Got an idea to water the beds I've forked with cold water from the well and then mulch good with chopped leaves, hoping it will keep the soil cool. Done and done. We'll see if it works.

I just finished starting herb seed and some other things:

Lettuce, Little Gem - a dwarf Romaine type. I planted three for transplanting to a window box later and three to go in the garden. Next week I'll start another round. Salads aren't an every day thing here so I'm not starting a lot at once.

Dwarf Pak Choi - About 20 of these. Some are destined to be part of table centerpieces at a meeting I have next month. They worked great for that last year. Some will go into window boxes.

Arugula - 8 for a window box

Chives, Geisha - two small pots for transplanting out later.

Greek Oregano - 1 pot for the porch

Parsley, flat leaf -8 for a window box. The one out on the porch now was started last spring and has been going strong all winter but will be going to seed early summer. Need to have a replacement ready!

Sage - 1 pot for the porch

Summer Savory - 1 pot for the porch. I've never had this before so we'll see what it tastes like.

Thyme - 4 pots. I need to dehydrate some of this come late summer/fall.

The next item on the planting calendar will be the two beds of Wando peas on the 15th. One bed's ready, one more to be forked.

Weedinhoe 02-11-2019 08:34 AM

Yesterday was transplant day, a cloudy and damp 45 degrees all day, soil temp 50. I got 4 collards, 4 kale, 6 cauliflower and 5 broccolini plants set out. BUT... I had forgotten to set the first half of the broccoli and cauliflower plants out to harden off so they didn't get planted! Duh. They're now on the porch for a week to get a taste of the real world.

The newly sown packs of dwarf pac choi, romaine lettuce, arugula and thyme are popping up in their packs. Still waiting for the Chinese chives, oregano, sage, summer savory and parsley to germinate.

The green peas will go in Friday or Saturday. Off we go into a new gardening season!

Weedinhoe 02-13-2019 06:48 AM

There were fresh deer tracks in the garden yesterday. This is going to be a pain in the butt battle with deer this year. It's a good thing 5th Gear asked if I was going to cover the transplants as I had forgotten about that. Right now the netting is basically just laid over them with a few overturned pots to keep the netting up off the plants. Today I need to just go ahead and get the hoops set up.

Friday still looks like a good day to plant the peas. I wonder how I'm going to deal with pea fence vs netting, at least until the peas get to climbing. Last year the deer didn't bother them at all. Maybe it's just the presence of the fence they didn't like. I might take a chance and just let the peas stay unprotected. Yep, that's what I'm going to do.

All the herb seed has popped up except for the sage.

Weedinhoe 02-14-2019 10:00 AM

Yesterday afternoon we did get the hoops and netting over the new brassica areas. The first bed has kale and half of the cauliflower plants down the middle with onions growing down the sides. The bed above that has four collards on the right side while the rest of the bed will be used for a squash/anti-nematode molasses treatment experiment later. The empty bed above that (along with one other bed further up) will be planted to peas tomorrow. One last brassica bed above the empty pea bed has cabbages and broccolini planted.

https://i.imgur.com/XFcZvP1.jpg

This is the onion, kale, cauliflower bed. The hoops set up quickly and easily with 3/4" pvc pieces shoved in the ground as anchors for the black irrigation pipe hoops. Clips attach the netting to the hoops.

https://i.imgur.com/B5TCpuL.jpg

The onions aren't doing so well this year but the scallions, planted at the same time, are going great guns. They always do. Several points have me thinking about not doing onions any more. Foremost is the lack of a decent storage area. Why grow them if you can't properly store them as I'm not going to dig a root cellar. Onions are also cheap at the store, I can use that area for other things and seed can be stored in the freezer if I ever do need it. Scallions can substitute in a pinch.

This is fall-planted Packman broccoli still pumping out side shoots. They're smaller now and want to start flowering quickly so they have to be cut regularly. The only other broccoli I've ever grown that comes close to side Packman's shoot production for me is Blue Wind.

https://i.imgur.com/mn911OW.jpg

The first decent asparagus spears got blasted last night. After mild days it got down to 31 this morning. I wasn't paying attention or I would have covered them.

https://i.imgur.com/WMh39IS.jpg

Peas will be planted tomorrow.

Some wild daffs for everybody on Valentine's day. :D:

https://i.imgur.com/bM0N2x9.jpg

FarmerChad 02-14-2019 11:46 AM

I always forget about your method with the irrigation pipe and pvc. I have always done the standard rebar and pvc hoops, which are truthfully overkill.

I have plenty of cut offs of the irrigation pipe. Sounds like the next project. :thumb:

Weedinhoe 02-14-2019 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by FarmerChad (Post 19347098)
I always forget about your method with the irrigation pipe and pvc. I have always done the standard rebar and pvc hoops, which are truthfully overkill.

The pvc and irrigation pipe works just fine for lightweight row cover and deer netting. Your rebar and pvc hoops would be a lot more sturdy, especially for a larger tunnel. It might be hard to bend 1/2" pvc for low hoops over a 4' wide bed. I imagine they would be taller hoops and my netting and row cover is only 6' wide. :)

Weedinhoe 02-16-2019 07:53 AM

The peas got sown yesterday afternoon. There was light rain all night so that's good for the peas. It was too dark and dreary to take a pic of the set up so I'll do that on the next sunny day. It may be a few days!

Today I need to set out the rest of the broccoli and the other four cauliflower plants.

Two mornings ago it got down to 31 with frost. That was a surprise as the weatherman called for a low of 40 and so I didn't cover the newly planted brassicas. They have suffered frost burn on their few leaves but the growth points look OK, having been somewhat protected by the leaf mulch. Keeping fingers crossed.

Weedinhoe 02-17-2019 10:54 AM

The sun came out yesterday but today is gloomy again and a lot cooler, maybe up to 55 later this afternoon. But the peas got rained on yesterday and that was good.

I took a pic of one of the two pea beds that have been planted. Peas are planted on each side of the trellis, resulting in four 18' rows (72' total) per bed. Last year we got 11 lbs of shelled peas from the two beds, 13 lbs the year before. That's about the average.

Last year I tried using fencing as the trellis rather than the short stuff I've been using. It worked great and will eliminate the need to run twine higher up the stakes later for more pea support so I cut the needed three more lengths. Looks I need to cut the ends off as I cut 6" too much. The big bolt cutters will do that job in a heartbeat.

https://i.imgur.com/8IB4gzC.jpg

First I pounded in the stakes 10" in from the side boards. Then I put some mulch leaves down the middle, enough so that once the peas come up I can push the leaves back out to the edges of the pea rows. Peas were planted along the inside of where the fence will be. Then the fence was put up and another row of peas planted along the outside edge of the fence.

This afternoon it should get to about 55 and then I'll go out and begin prep of another bed. More rain is coming in tomorrow so I need to get that done today. Thursday I will be sowing turnip and beet seed on the sides of that bed.

Weedinhoe 02-20-2019 03:54 PM

You Win Some, Lose Some
 
Six days ago the overnight low was forecasted for 40. Unfortunately it got down to 31 with a lot of frost and my young brassicas got blasted. Boy, that forecast sure was a miss! All around us in towns 7-10 miles away the lows were 40 except in Augusta at the Savannah River where it did get down to 31. I guess since this property is somewhat down between two ridges, we got some colder air. I can't remember such a forecast miss so it ticks me off. If I had known, stuff would have been covered. :taped:

At first the central growth points on the plants seemed OK but this afternoon I had to reseed all six broccolini, four of the cauliflower and the four collards. The only good thing is that because I'm doing staggered starting, there are four more 4 cauliflower ready to be set out as well as the other four broccolis. The kale did just fine but the demise of some of the collards surprised me. Such is life. :xeye:

Weedinhoe 02-22-2019 10:41 AM

February 21st... eleven days until I start the pepper and eggplant seed. Spring is moving right along. :)

Meanwhile, yesterday I planted out the second set of cauliflower plants which have now become the first ones since the real first ones got burned. A new "second" round has been started so I'll still end up with two sets of plants, just staggered later. The second broccolis went out as well as the Wakefield cabbage, which finishes later than the Stoneheads planted out a week ago.

I also sowed 18' each of beets and turnips. Yes, this ever hopeful gardener is sowing beets again. :D: One day I may be rewarded. Today I'll sow some French Breakfast radish seed as well as some Opolanka, a Polish variety that's a dead ringer for French Breakfast.

5th Gear will be setting out her potatoes today. Just one 18' row, half Yukon Gold and half Red Pontiac. That will be enough to get eaten or put up by the time they get too old.

I think I will also plant half a dozen garlic cloves today as a test just to see how they do once it gets hot here. Just scratching the curiosity itch. :D:


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