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rriley 11-06-2019 10:54 PM

The Whistleblower Named
 
https://www.realclearinvestigations....er_120996.html

ManyFeathers 11-07-2019 06:36 AM

I don't know what all the hub bub is about

The whistleblower isn't guaranteed anonymity, he's just free from reprisal when it comes to his job

Fonz 11-07-2019 06:36 AM

Dang, thought for sure it was Pierre Delecto.

HomeDefense 11-07-2019 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ManyFeathers (Post 19864416)
I don't know what all the hub bub is about

The whistleblower isn't guaranteed anonymity, he's just free from reprisal when it comes to his job

Exactly. That raises the question of why both sides were protecting him. The swamp is very deep.

This part of the article pretty much explains everything.

Quote:

Federal documents reveal that the 33-year-old Ciaramella, a registered Democrat held over from the Obama White House, previously worked with former Vice President Joe Biden and former CIA Director John Brennan, a vocal critic of Trump who helped initiate the Russia “collusion” investigation of the Trump campaign during the 2016 election.
So does the whistleblower law protect someone who is likely lying? The Democrats seem to think a whistleblower testimony is a certified bonafide fact.

ManyFeathers 11-07-2019 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by HomeDefense (Post 19864426)
This part of the article pretty much explains everything.



So does the whistleblower law protect someone who is likely lying? The Democrats seem to think a whistleblower testimony is a bonafide fact.

Right now it's looking like a coup attempt, with the release of his attorneys tweets and then the fact that it's second hand info and the fact he got Schiff and/or his aides to embellish the report

Trump isn't the criminal here!

HomeDefense 11-07-2019 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ManyFeathers (Post 19864434)
Right now it's looking like a coup attempt, with the release of his attorneys tweets and then the fact that it's second hand info and the fact he got Schiff and/or his aides to embellish the report

Trump isn't the criminal here!

Somewhere along the way, the whistleblower law was changed. As originally written, the whistleblower had to have "first-hand knowledge." That was a requirement on the original form a whistleblower had to fill out.

The facts and the truth are not important. What's important to the democrats is the illusion of criminality they create in the minds of voters. If you throw enough crap against the wall, some of it will stick.

LibShooter 11-07-2019 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HomeDefense (Post 19864426)
So does the whistleblower law protect someone who is likely lying? The Democrats seem to think a whistleblower testimony is a certified bonafide fact.

The whistleblower hasnít testified. He turned in a written complaint. The allegations in the complaint have been verified by witness testimony and by President Trumpís memo about his call with the Ukraine President.

Jdog67 11-07-2019 06:57 AM

One more example of how Trump F'd up by not clearing out all the Dems from the executive branch when he took office. Any Obama era personnel are a security risk, and should either be fired outright, or if they have civil service protection, reassigned to less critical tasks.

Jdog67 11-07-2019 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by LibShooter (Post 19864438)
The whistleblower hasnít testified. He turned in a written complaint. The allegations in the complaint have been verified by witness testimony and by President Trumpís memo about his call with the Ukraine President.

Correction, Shifty Schiff's office wrote the complaint, which has been proven untrue by the transcript.

HomeDefense 11-07-2019 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LibShooter (Post 19864438)
The whistleblower hasn’t testified. He turned in a written complaint. The allegations in the complaint have been verified by witness testimony and by President Trump’s memo about his call with the Ukraine President.

Do you have a link that supports this? Everything I've seen shows there was no quid pro quo, which is what the whistleblower complaint claims.

Even if there was, that would be no different than what Joe Biden did when he threatened to withhold funds if the prosecutor investigating his son's company was not fired. Biden publicly bragged about that one.

There is also the issue of the whistleblower having second-hand knowledge, not first-hand knowledge. Legally, that is called hearsay and would never hold up in a legitimate court case.

Politics has to be the most dishonest sport ever invented.

saln 11-07-2019 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HomeDefense (Post 19864436)
Somewhere along the way, the whistleblower law was changed. As originally written, the whistleblower had to have "first-hand knowledge." That was a requirement on the original form a whistleblower had to fill out.

The facts and the truth are not important. What's important to the democrats is the illusion of criminality they create in the minds of voters. If you throw enough crap against the wall, some of it will stick.

The WB law was "conveniently" changed by the dims, from first hand to hearsay, a few months before this latest, extended COUP garbage.

saln 11-07-2019 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdog67 (Post 19864442)
One more example of how Trump F'd up by not clearing out all the Dems from the executive branch when he took office. Any Obama era personnel are a security risk, and should either be fired outright, or if they have civil service protection, reassigned to less critical tasks.

That's not what you want to do when you are trying to make TRAITORS incriminate and then hang themselves and each other.

ManyFeathers 11-07-2019 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LibShooter (Post 19864438)
The whistleblower hasn’t testified. He turned in a written complaint. The allegations in the complaint have been verified by witness testimony and by President Trump’s memo about his call with the Ukraine President.

He needs to testify!

Where did he get the info he had being as he wasn't in the same room?

Why does his complaint allude to more than what's in the phone transcript?

Why did he go to Schiff and/or his aides before taking the legal path of a whistleblower

Why did he release classified information to these same aides or Schiff without a need to know?

Why did he not advise the original leaker to not take the path to blow the whistle?

When you look at everything, his attorney and his tweets, the WB and his path and the fact that Schiff and his aides were all involved.....

How can you not call this some kind of conspiracy?

And if it is, it's nothing short of treason and/or sedition!


How do these acts compare to Trump's "high crimes and misdemeanors"

charliemeyer007 11-07-2019 07:43 PM

Latest crooked BS DNC Deep State fake news. He didn't actually hear anything but told what to claim. He went to sciff for brains first not the inspector general as required for actual whistle blowers.

Hick Industries 11-07-2019 08:07 PM

I read the transcript and heard from other parties on the call. Zero chance the Republican Senate will vote to convict Trump, so Congrats Democrats, you ****ed Up and elected Trump a second time.

In 2016, Bernie won the primaries, but you cheated and ran the Beast. Hillary was the only canidate who could loose to Donald Trump.

But instead of accepting the results, you have spent the last three yrs resisting. Three yrs of making up lies and pretending 2016 did not happen.

America decided we did not like Obama's hope and change. We wanted to be great again, and you have decided not to be part of that greatness.

We are going to rebuild America, and you Dems can just sit at the kids table and cry.

Harmless Drudge 11-08-2019 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saln (Post 19864510)
The WB law was "conveniently" changed by the dims, from first hand to hearsay, a few months before this latest, extended COUP garbage.

If hearsay is the standard, any allegation can be made at any time, and with absolutely no credibility.

saln 11-08-2019 09:32 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Old and new. Sometime in Sept.

Jdog67 11-09-2019 07:04 AM

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...ric-ciaramella

Facebook censoring all mention of Ciaramella's name. Unreal.

buzzardB 11-09-2019 06:06 PM

trump dodged the bullet (Muller report), then shot himself by asking for a favor though. So this is all his own fault, he didn't need the help for 2020, but now God help him.

SurvivalOfTheFit 11-09-2019 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdog67 (Post 19868020)
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...ric-ciaramella

Facebook censoring all mention of Ciaramella's name. Unreal.

YouTube is doing the same thing... Censorship is alive and well here in the land of the free and home of the brave... :taped:

Facebook and YouTube remove content mentioning potential whistleblower's name

https://www.foxnews.com/tech/faceboo...tleblower-name


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