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My question to anyone who actually believes millennials are failure: Why aren't you helping them to not be? The rubbish in this thread certainly doesn't help.

You will all die soon, and millennials will run this place. As a millennial, a vet, with a steady job, hard work ethic, nice house, and a big savings account, I pretty much break all of your generalizations.

"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge." Isaac Asimov
As a millennial I don't a have house or much of a savings. That said I refuse to go into debt to buy these things. Compare that to the previous generation. :D:
 
well that will be solved. Once the world collapses the children who thinks the world owes them something will either adapt and overcome and perish.. i think a great majority of them will come to the latte; more or less a "cleansing" of the gene pool or the infamous "darwin award" type situation only on a massive scale
 
As a millennial myself, I can say with a reasonable amount of accuracy that most others my own age or there-about are like what some of you say... but have hope! There are still some intelligent, well-mannered, and hard-working young folks out there. I may not have personally seen many, admittedly, but I believe they are out there... somewhere. :)
 
In any event, the millennial are no longer children. Don't tell us; show us how to make the world a better place. :thumb:
They will. Watch them!

They will also deal with new wars and terrorism, just like the last few generations have had to do. They will deal with stupid government and lying politicians, deal with fraud and thefts, and have elderly relatives who need them just when their teenagers ALSO need them, and at the same time their bosses decides to reorganize. We called it being "The sandwich generation", I do not know what my parents generation called it. I have also heard it called being a "Maturational Crisis". Whatever.

Every generation that I have personally known has dealt with the above. In the vernacular of my own generation, it was known as "**** happens".

At the end of their lives they will have accomplished about 1/4 of what they intended, but, they WILL have accomplished that 1/4! Of course their own younger generation will be facing new problems that will be add to the 3/4 that their elders were not able to get done, so their own younger generation will also be very busy.

This is life. It's good, it's bad, it's frustrating. And, life in a first world country is far better than most of humanity can ever dream of: we are the LUCKY ones!

For all you Millennials: I have been sober, responsible, and hard working but my health is not what it was and I am retiring. It is now your turn to change the world: it is not a BAD job but it IS a demanding one and often a frustrating one!!

Good luck and God Bless.
 
I am a millennial. 25 years of age, have spent most of my life in Kansas. Traveled the country. I am young but believe myself to be an older soul. I find myself holding conversations and company with a much older crowd. I relate to older generations better then my own. I am college educated, a bachelor of science in aviation maintenance. I am an A&P mechanic by training and a sheet metal worker by passion. I am in the final stages of buying my first home. I drive older vehicles that are meticulously maintained by my hands. I read any book, article, little speck of information I can get my hands on; knowledge is power. All generations have their failings, mine is no different. My generation is most memorable because all the failings of previous generations has accumulated into mine. Most kids these days have gadgets or television thrown at them for distraction, or they are treated with prescription drugs to tone down imagination and energy. My dad worked me like draft horse plowing field. It has ingrained a solid work ethic,drive, and practical skills which many lack. I also believe geographic location has a lot to do with it. I grew up rural, in a farming community. The work ethic is stronger in these areas, there is still a connection with the natural world and natural order of things. Not so, in a urban environment. Most of us have always just been told, "Do what i say and don't question it!" There are just as many people who lack basic common sense today as there ever was. The thing you older individuals as well as us, have to hope for is; that the right people get into politics and decide to lead the country to prosperity. Please note, I am neither Dem or Rep. Both parties are broken and the government has not served its people for quite some time. There is hope for mine and future generations, just as you felt hope for yours. I could write pages on this topic, but will spare your eyes and time.
 
How typical of your generation! There is a song that says every generation blames the one before but the millennial take it to a new form. Even when the subject is your generation's lack of basic skills, like taking responsibility, you immediately show how very true it is.

And do not think for one moment your generation is special or dealing with new problems. There are fewer orphans today in America than ever before, which means your generation has both parents. Let me say this again to avoid any weaseling out of the matter: previous generations where raised by single parents because so many father's were killed in battle. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Generation

In any event, the millennial are no longer children. Don't tell us; show us how to make the world a better place. :thumb:
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I was raised by "Greatest Generation" parents. Dad, now gone over 20 years was a WWII fighter pilot, Mom now 90, worked her entire life. They raised my sister and I with their generations work ethic and thankfully realized that education and "values" were the most important things to pass on tho their children. They endured a lot to give us the best educational opportunities they could.
We have raised our four children with those same values and have spared no expense or effort to give them the best opportunities available. I regard this as my number one responsibility since we brought them into this world.
So...like all generalizations this one is only partly accurate, as some of the posters here have pointed out. It is and has been a recurring theme in our society and others, somehow things go on.
 
I think I have a pretty good set of skills for being 17 albeit basic and need to honed. But I can do basic plumbing, electrical, rough carpentry, metal fab, drive stick, operate farm equipment and some construction equipment along maintainace of equipment,tools and engines I can grow vegetables along with raise sheep, pigs,chickens that's laying hens and meat birds and cattle while calculating weight to see how much feed and water they need (thanks FFA) along with slaughter and butcher those animals. I also have out door skills such as fire, shelter, local plants, hunting purification and filtration of water, hunting and fishing. So tell me again how millennials are lacking skills because I know a lot of kids my age that can do all this and use technology.
 
I was raised by "Greatest Generation" parents. Dad, now gone over 20 years was a WWII fighter pilot, Mom now 90, worked her entire life. They raised my sister and I with their generations work ethic and thankfully realized that education and "values" were the most important things to pass on tho their children. They endured a lot to give us the best educational opportunities they could.
The values that the "greatest Generation" had were passed down to their children. The same as how their parents and grandparents have done for years. Those values and the education that their efforts made possible stuck with some of their children and then Vietnam and the '60's took over. It was the "I'm okay and your okay" creed that said that if it feels alright do it and you'll be fine with no consequences.

Once the fear of consequences is absolved next was the reward for no success. Then the spiral continued downward where the respect for life and individuality is done away with, then the lack of respect for authority, and then the law. In the meantime succeeding generations failed to pass down the way that they were brought up. This is opulence at its worst.

We have raised our four children with those same values and have spared no expense or effort to give them the best opportunities available. I regard this as my number one responsibility since we brought them into this world.
So...like all generalizations this one is only partly accurate, as some of the posters here have pointed out. It is and has been a recurring theme in our society and others, somehow things go on.
We raised our children with the attitude that work was a benefit for their hands and brains. They were educated in schools, but were also expected to earn their rewards.

My son came to my one day when he was in Middle school and was taking wood working and said that he was earning a "B" in his course work. I asked him why he wasn't doing better as he had been working with wood working tools since he was three. He gave a half witted answer and I said that my expectations for him was nothing less than an "A" because he had the fundamentals and now he had to apply them and make them better. He did just that not only in that class but in many future classes. This is what I learned from my parents and family and what I tried to pass on. Learn and advance.

On the other side of the coin one of my children spouses was raised in the environment of being rewarded for showing up and learned no survival skills (that has been changed). This child looked at my children as being super smart and the ability to do anything that needed to be done. From cooking to handling their finances, to just simply planting a garden.

One of my kids said that they were raised with uncompromising expectations in a home where education was valued and rewarded as long as they worked to exceed their level.

One of my son's friends didn't know how to put his bicycle chain on after it came off the sprockets, I had to show him how to it. The friend was 29 and I was approaching 60. It's said think that such a simple skill was not taught to him by his father. I learned that skill when I was 5 from my grand father.

So if there is something that could make a difference would be teach the younger generations the value of life, knowledge, conversation, and survival skills of all sorts .

From my family I learned the value of a college education, how to work my hands, and to care for all the people that I deal with. I rose in my field but I also made some of the furniture in my house, wood carved, and can change by own oil, do some mechanical tasks. I do think that I have passed on these traits to my children and hope that they continue to process.
 
The values that the "greatest Generation" had were passed down to their children. The same as how their parents and grandparents have done for years.
Ah yeah the good citizens on whose watch the Fed was created, the NFA of 1934, The New Deal and GCA of 1968.

Then the spiral continued downward where the respect for life and individuality is done away with, then the lack of respect for authority, and then the law. In the meantime succeeding generations failed to pass down the way that they were brought up. This is opulence at its worst.
It's always popular to dump on a specific generation and view others with reverence, until the facts are remembered but the truth is there's enough blame to go around.

In the end we always get the Government we deserve and this .gov we got now is the result of slacker citizens from several generations.
 
Bring back shop classes and home econ.
Thomas Jefferson was always my hero because he was a Renaissance Man.

Today's kids are lazy and want convenience, unless their parents teach them otherwise.

I have coached kids basketball a lot. The ranch raised kids are the easiest to coach because they are brought up with responsibilities.
 
Any sort of collective failure of any generation of children is the fault of the parents for not teaching them.

Until they become thinking adults and recognize from a certain point forward, any new failures are their own fault.

I see the argument. As a group, Millennials lack people skills (they're glued to electronics 24/7) and they certainly are less resourceful (in a self sufficiency capacity) than previous generations.

But they have different skills. A 5 year old is more tech savvy than a 55 year old on average.

We (as a group on SB) just place a higher importance on certain skill sets, like bushcraft and homesteading.
 
I was camping in eastern Nevada one fall in a nice state park. I had some questions about the deer and elk herds and had a chat with the park super who was a U of Nevada graduate. I asked him about the young kids coming out of school and what he looks for. He said even the kids with degrees in natural resources programs lack basic mechanical skills like changing a tire or checking the oil and trans fluid. It creates problems because the machinery get torn up and no one knows how to fix it. It is obvious we need shop classes back in schools.
 
I was camping in eastern Nevada one fall in a nice state park. I had some questions about the deer and elk herds and had a chat with the park super who was a U of Nevada graduate. I asked him about the young kids coming out of school and what he looks for. He said even the kids with degrees in natural resources programs lack basic mechanical skills like changing a tire or checking the oil and trans fluid. It creates problems because the machinery get torn up and no one knows how to fix it. It is obvious we need shop classes back in schools.
I dont think the issue is going to be solved with shop classes. Schools are a joke these days and have turned into more of a propagation machine for libs instead of education of the basics. A shop class would end up being labeled as racist and anti feminist. Our schools have turned into reeducation camps. Its kinda like a puppy mill folks are being ran though the mill for profit not education. The reeducation part comes in to train them to be little limp wristed zombies that are afraid of mean words.
 
I dont think the issue is going to be solved with shop classes. Schools are a joke these days and have turned into more of a propagation machine for libs instead of education of the basics. A shop class would end up being labeled as racist and anti feminist. Our schools have turned into reeducation camps. Its kinda like a puppy mill folks are being ran though the mill for profit not education. The reeducation part comes in to train them to be little limp wristed zombies that are afraid of mean words.
I'm a millenial and my school had a shop class. I came from one of the poorest districts in the state, so I'm sure the others had one too. I'll just rack this rant up to you not knowing what you're talking about. When your bipartisanship blinds you into becoming an enemy of education, life must be rough for you. Like John Wayne said:

If you're gonna be dumb, you gotta be tough!

Next you'll want to burn books because they're too liberal. Fahrenheight 451 anyone?
 
I'm a millenial and my school had a shop class. I came from one of the poorest districts in the state, so I'm sure the others had one too. I'll just rack this rant up to you not knowing what you're talking about. When your bipartisanship blinds you into becoming an enemy of education, life must be rough for you. Like John Wayne said:

If you're gonna be dumb, you gotta be tough!

Next you'll want to burn books because they're too liberal. Fahrenheight 451 anyone?
I bet you are a pretty tough feller. I never said schools didnt have shop class. Slow down there tough guy.:thumb:
 
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