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#42 ·
They didn't have dumbells over 150lbs, so I loaded up 2 barbells with 2 plates each side
225lbs and did alternating barbell curls!
 
#43 ·
Wow! I've never run into that before, and I was on weight-lifting teams when I was younger.

I'd just call them what they are, and go somewhere else. I have my own weights and machines at home, and I do enough stuff outdoors to keep me in reasonable shape, so I really don't need a gym anyway. When I do go to gyms, I sort of feel like a fox in a henhouse..... The only reasons I went to gyms before was mainly for the steam rooms, sauna and pool. I now live on a mountain in the Wilderness, and I have built a Sweat Lodge at the summit, have lots of clean streams nearby, and have my own weights and machines. I actually prefer the solitude of working out at home, or with the Mrs. We can even work out naked if we want to.......but since we're both 60+ years old, that doesn't happen all that often, anymore...LOL
 
#44 ·
Ancientasa said:
People do NOT need to go to a gym, to stay in shape.
Gyms, are just for socializing.:rolleyes:
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No, they are not. If you are busy training, you aren't socializing.

Those gyms, make a lot of money, preying on your guilt and inadequacies.

Just like churches.
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Neither gyms nor churches prey on anyone. Sounds like you have some personal issues you need to work out.
 
#45 ·
cmo1037 said:
Wow. This just shows how much you really don't know about lifting or building muscles. If you honestly don't think going to failure +1 or +2 is not a muscle builder, then I don't know what to tell you.
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He didn't say anything against going to failure. I work out by myself and still go to failure. A few years ago I would work out with a spotter. In the last year alone, I have added measurable gains to all my major exercises (bench, curl, squat, dead lift, pull ups) without spotters.
 
#46 ·
BJJ_Grappler said:
He didn't say anything against going to failure. I work out by myself and still go to failure. A few years ago I would work out with a spotter. In the last year alone, I have added measurable gains to all my major exercises (bench, curl, squat, dead lift, pull ups) without spotters.
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Hes talking about going PAST failure "failure +1" . Its a well known technique for advanced training where your spotter helps you do more reps than you can do alone. Is it absolutely necessary? No. Is it effective? Yep
 
#47 ·
BJJ_Grappler said:
He didn't say anything against going to failure. I work out by myself and still go to failure. A few years ago I would work out with a spotter. In the last year alone, I have added measurable gains to all my major exercises (bench, curl, squat, dead lift, pull ups) without spotters.
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The poster I was replying to was talking about all this weight he's pushing. If your pushing big weight, you need a spotter. Talk to anyone who does this for a living, or even just watch some big time lifters. There's a reason they are there, because if that weight comes down on you, then you could die literally.

A spotter isn't absolutely necessary. But you will make bigger and faster gains with one, it's safer, it adds a mental aspect to your work out, having someone there, and him pushing you to lift harder, and you not afraid to get that last rep, and even that last rep after failure (ya know, the one that REALLY counts).

But you fellers can left however the hell ya want, best of luck to ya
 
#48 ·
Pranqster1 said:
Hes talking about going PAST failure "failure +1" . Its a well known technique for advanced training where your spotter helps you do more reps than you can do alone. Is it absolutely necessary? No. Is it effective? Yep
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One more think, you say you still go to failure...explain how you go to failure on bench with out a spotter? I could see push ups, and pull ups and curls, even squats i guess if you have something to catch the bar instead of it smashing down on you.

But how do you go to failure with bench and not get buried? Or are you not using any weights? Just the weight of the bar? Not trying to be rude just asking? Maybe using a machine and not free weights? Which would explain a lot.
 
#49 ·
MonsterMash said:
I don't have that problem in my gym. The only problem I see is the dirty looks I get from the guys who are on the elliptical machine, next to their wife/girlfriend.....and they notice their woman is checking me out cause I'm lifting big boy weights.

Guys, when your woman tells you she doesn't like big guys with muscles.....shes lying to you. :D:
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This is truth!

My wife 'forbade' me from getting those "huge ugly muscles on either side of the neck" (Traps)

I took that as a challenge. I work them hard and they are huge now. She cant get her hands off of them. Hmm, yep, lying. :D:
 
#50 ·
well i beleive the issue is srong men intimnidate the wimpy little girly men who frequesnt many gyms. they may prefer aerobics over power lifting. maybe synchronized swimming etc. hey who needs muslces most guys these days are not even pencil pushers they push keys on a computer. i for one need the weights and riding my mountian bike etc because i pretty much push computer keys for a living. beside a little exercise helps slow the aging process well atleast thats wht i keep telling myself.
 
#51 ·
cmo1037 said:
The poster I was replying to was talking about all this weight he's pushing. If your pushing big weight, you need a spotter.
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The idea of "big weight" is relative to the pusher. What I call "big weight" on the bench press (365 lbs) is on the low end for many competitors but it is on the impossible end for the average person.

Talk to anyone who does this for a living, or even just watch some big time lifters. There's a reason they are there, because if that weight comes down on you, then you could die literally.
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Talk to anyone who does this for a living, and you will know that a spotter is there only to assist on a rep you can't complete, not catch a sudden failure.

There are plenty of stop bar safety mechanisms, even on a traditional bench, or squat rack that can be utilized without a spotter.
 
#53 ·
I am a 58 year old powerlifter that's been around different gyms my whole life and most gyms nowadays(fitness centers)are full of girly men wusses that think getting on a treadmill(hamster wheel)and doing curls is the answer. I blame 95% of personal trainers of today for this .I am old school, lift hard and heavy in overhead presses, benches, squats and bent over rows. If you think I don't know what I am talking about I can still hit big numbers at 58 and still maintain big mussel .Thank god I go to a gym that still understands what the meaning of getting strong an fit is .
 
#54 ·
Being a man

It sounds like a lot of people have some growing up to do. I worked in a field that required us to maintain peak physical condition. Many of us lifted what I saw were called "Big Boy Weights" Most didn't. When it came to other parts of our training, the Big Boys (including me), lost out to guys 155 pounds.I saw our smallest guy beat our biggest guy on more than one occasion. Obviously it was hand to hand combat. Now I'm disabled and what would be called a "Fat Body". If this has been your biggest discrimination in life your doing pretty good. One of the fist things I remember about my Dad telling me about being a man is-Never be a "victim complainer or whiner".Name calling is for chidren.
 
#56 ·
Brother, you are singing my tune...

I've been a gym rat for the past seven years after a 30-year couch potato lifestyle. My philosophy is lift heavy or go home, with a little cardio thrown in.

I couldn't take the nightclub gyms with their annoying top-40 hipster music, emo stick-boys, fake-tan fashionistas and idiot trainers giving bad advice to the clueless.

Fortunately there is a gym at my work without all that b*******. Unfortunately, they have no free weights, but cable weights and bodyweight exercises can provide some pretty good resistance.

Load-bearing compound exercises like squats, deadlifts, bench press, military press, etc. will slow down age-related muscle atrophy and build higher bone density, not to mention naturally increasing testosterone. You'll thank yourself when you're elderly and (1) still able to get it up, and (2) not prone to breaking a hip if you fall.

And if SHTF, you want to have the physical strength to meet the challenges that lie ahead, for you and your family.
 
Discussion starter · #57 ·
sniperd said:
I call BS. And if not then you need to understand you are in the 99.9% club of strength and not everyone is going to live up to your level of manliness.

You need years and years (and juice) to put up a 500lbs+ bench press and you should very well know and are then an elite lifter.

Sounds to me like your more worried about how you measure up then everyone else is.
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Apparently you don't know much about lifting, gear and such and what people will do to get more weight. When I did 5 plates it was with a bench press shirt and elbow wraps, cheating in other words. When I grew up a bit I stopped using the gear but still went well over 400 with no drugs, just lots of hard work. I't easily verifiable, hell, I'm 56 now and can easily bench 3 plates for reps, clean and no drugs. Your welcome to come watch anytime.

I have no worries about how I measure up to anybody, just don't like wuss gyms, or those that make gross assumptions to make themselves feel better.
 
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gigmaster said:
Wow! I've never run into that before, and I was on weight-lifting teams when I was younger.

I'd just call them what they are, and go somewhere else. I have my own weights and machines at home, and I do enough stuff outdoors to keep me in reasonable shape, so I really don't need a gym anyway. When I do go to gyms, I sort of feel like a fox in a henhouse..... The only reasons I went to gyms before was mainly for the steam rooms, sauna and pool. I now live on a mountain in the Wilderness, and I have built a Sweat Lodge at the summit, have lots of clean streams nearby, and have my own weights and machines. I actually prefer the solitude of working out at home, or with the Mrs. We can even work out naked if we want to.......but since we're both 60+ years old, that doesn't happen all that often, anymore...LOL
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Sounds like your own little paradise, very nice, congrats. I wish I had the same. :thumb:
 
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