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Hey. My Dad took us catch and release fishing when I was 8, and I haven't been again until this year (I'm 33.) And no longer doing catch and release.
Went fishing a couple weeks ago with my wife, and we caught 3 between us. 2 small bass and a sunfish. (One on a ribbontail worm, and the others just a plain rubber earthworm.) I caught 2 out of 3.

Went fishing again today, and those lures (which I was using) caught nothing, and my wife caught 3 fish with a silver spinner. 2 bluegills and a crappie. We're really not doing any prize fishing. Just spending some time together and getting dinner out of it if we catch anything. But I really have zero background or knowledge on the topic. What do you wish you would have known when you first started fishing that would have been helpful? There's probably all sorts of stuff that I wouldn't even think about.

A good starting place- We fish off the bank, and do not have a boat. My number one annoyance is getting the hook caught on rocks when I'm reeling in. Any good ideas?
-Claven
 
Hey. My Dad took us catch and release fishing when I was 8, and I haven't been again until this year (I'm 33.) And no longer doing catch and release.
Went fishing a couple weeks ago with my wife, and we caught 3 between us. 2 small bass and a sunfish. (One on a ribbontail worm, and the others just a plain rubber earthworm.) I caught 2 out of 3.

Went fishing again today, and those lures (which I was using) caught nothing, and my wife caught 3 fish with a silver spinner. 2 bluegills and a crappie. We're really not doing any prize fishing. Just spending some time together and getting dinner out of it if we catch anything. But I really have zero background or knowledge on the topic. What do you wish you would have known when you first started fishing that would have been helpful? There's probably all sorts of stuff that I wouldn't even think about.

A good starting place- We fish off the bank, and do not have a boat. My number one annoyance is getting the hook caught on rocks when I'm reeling in. Any good ideas?
-Claven
from the bank, i use floaters or shallow running. I use the minnows that float with a spoon on the front. faster you crank, deeper it goes. slow down close to bank. if they hang, let line completely slack. sometimes they float on off.

if you stay with the rubber worms, there is a way to set them up weedless. it helps to keep them from hanging. when close to the bank, I sometimes hold the reel over my head and crank, try to pull bait up and out.
 
Even if I knew the magic answer.....I would'nt give it to ya......:D:

It all depends on the type of fish, time of year, when they are biting, what phase the moon is in and where the tide is at, and what you are trying to feed it.

In most all cases, though not always true, the bigger the bait, the bigger the fish!

My favorite go-to lures, probably wouldn't work for you! You need to continue to fish and learn what the fish and nature teachs you...

Local papers/web sites that have fishing reports will help you with what/where/when the fishing is best. Some will even tell you what they were caught on.
 
Tread litely along the banks you wish to fish. the vibration of walking or talking are amplified in the water due toi being a higher density.
I fish with top water artificial baits early in the AM or at dusk and have great success targeting Largemouth bass in local small ponds here in Texas.
My favorite is a natural pond (about 2 acres) on a golfcourse just blocks from home.
 
Funny, I was about to post the same question. We've been a few times and a couple times caught some little sunfish but I want to catch something a little bigger. What kind of rigs, baits, etc do you use?
Closest place to us is http://www.fishingnotes.com/lakeinfo.php?id=39870
For Large and Smallmouth bass, you can't hardly go wrong with a 6'' plastic worm. Motor oil is a good all-round color, they are cheap enough to buy different colors. Spinnerbaits work good along with topwater and diving baits.

Crappie...I've always had the best luck using live minnows....always!

Catfish, I use stink bait, cut up garlic soaked hot dogs, ivory soap works real good, in warm water though, it doesn't last long.......Yes I said Ivory Soap

I use different types of rods and reels (fresh water) generally with anywhere from 10# to 17# test line.


I have saltwater set-ups too. I live really close to the Gulf
 
Get a couple of Kayaks and open up your oppertunities on the water instead of restricting yourself to bank fishing only!

Learn the habits of your quarry and where it can likely be located through out the season. Here in Texas when the water warms to 58 degrees until it hits about 70 the Crappie will move uop from deeper waters of 12-20ft where they wintered to the shallows around brush and rocks and prepare to spawn in water 1-4ft deep. After the spawn they will usually migrate back to deeper waters where they will suspend or stack up on brush piles and rock piles where they will pretty much remain most of the year. They feed primarily on minnows and in tough times will hit small shad or Blue Gill fry. Baits that immitate minnows are brutal on thses fish. When jigging for them they will almost never chase a bait that drops below them so jig the lure just above them. The bite will almost always come as you lift the lure up on the jig. Around mid to late october as the summer waters cool they will be scattered with no real pattern from one day to the next as they forage for food just before winter sets in where they will go to deeper waters and wait out old man winter and the return of spring where the cycle starts all over again. The easiest time to locate them in in spring when they spawn. Once you locate the spawning area you can just about bet the bank that the nearest area of 12-20ft of water with some sort of structure will hold them a majority of the year. Learn the habits of your choosen target well and you can score just about all year long.

Dont fall for the "Trick of the week lures". These are designed to catch the fishermen more than the fish. Yes sometimes such lures can be brutally effective under the right conditions, but really a few tried and true basics will cover you better day in and day out. One of my personal favorites is the lowley Road Runner Jig with a plastic white curl tail grub threaded on the hook. You can fish it slow fish it fast fish it shallow fish it deep or you can just verticle jig it. Either way its a killer a large portion of the year on a large number of species in a variety of waters. Did I also mention its cheap too! One of my favoprite tactics with this lure is to cruise around in the kayak with the Fish Finder on and locate a school of Crappie over some brush or a rock pile. I will then drop a Road Runner jig as previously mentioned just above them and vertical jig until my limit is caught.

Got Catfish in your area? I like to use circle hooks when catfishing. I use a hook a size or two larger than I other wise would for the bait due to its design. With these hooks the fish doesnt usually swallow them like other hook styles. The hook sets in the fish as the fish swims away with the bait causing the hook to cam and hook the fish in the corner of the mouth making hook removal much easier. You also dont set these hooks on a fish bite, you let the fish pick up the bait and take off with it. If anything you might use a long gradual sweep of the rod tip to cam the hook to the corner of the fishes mouth as it swims away with the bait. I will typically fish for catfish using the typical tight line method with a hook on a 12 inch leader below a egg sinker of appropriate weight or drift fish using a Santee Copper rig. While catfish are often thought of as bottom feeders fishing the bottom only limits the fish you target. Try fishing all levels of the water depth. Channel Cats and Bull Heads will readily hit cut bait, dough bait and dip baits. Blues will prefer fresh or recently thawed frozen shad. Flatheads typically are caught using live bait such as a sunfish nose hooked and then dropped down into log jams or other likely structure.

For Large Mouth Bass, its tough to beat a soft plastic worm, lizard or creature bait Texas or Carolina rigged. I was really slow to take to this style of fishing for bass because it does take some skill and "feel" to effectively fish with but after getting schooled one day on the water I made it my mission in life to perfect this technique and its a killer one once you do. I use a Texas rigged bait with just enough weight to get the bait down in the water to the proper depth and to allow it to slither over under water weeds instead of dropping down in them and becoming burried. I typically will use a 1/8th or 1/16th ounce bullet weight with a 3/0 hook and a plastic six inch lizard. In the dawg days of the brutal Texas summers I will resort to a Carolina Rigged bait to fish deeper water structure for bass dodging the heat of summer. I will usually use a 1/2 to 3/4 ounce weight with a 24 inch leader and tie on a 5/0 hook and use either a 12 inch worm or a large creature bait resembling a crawfish. These arent the only ways to fish a plastic bait either just two of the more common bread and butter techniques that produce well under a variety of conditions. In the cooler water times on waters that have a good population of crawfish I will fish a Jig n Pig. Its a great bait for getting fish that are sluggish due to the cooler water but are hungry and still willing to bite. This is a great winter time bait here for me in Texas. This is also a brutal bait for Small Mouth Bass year round!

There is probably no more exciting way to go after a lunker bass than using a top water bait in the shallows in summer or on night time outtings. The blow ups on top water baits can be violently vicious and bone jarring explosions on the surface of the water. The key to successful hook ups here is not to try a hook set when the water explodes under your bait but to wait until you actually feel the fish on the line and then set the hook. There are a wide variety of top water baits to target bass with but I prefer and find the most success with those that are in constant motion such as a Jitterbug, Buzz Bait or a Zoom Frog retrieved across the water at a steady and constant speed. I find that bass will be far more accurate at striking a bait thats constantly moving as opposed to a Zarra Spook or chug type bait being intermitantly worked on the surface. This type of fishing is not for the faint of heart from an excitement stand point.

On Bass, if I need to cover a lot of water fast and the structure aint to thick, I will often resort to a slash bait such as Rapahla's X5 with is a small skinny minnow type crankbait thats about 5-9 grams in weight (1/8 to 1/4 ounces for you non metric bubbas out there). These run fairly shallow usually no deeper than 4 ft and are great for fishing submerged rocky points that feature a steep drop off on one side or the other. I prefer patterns in bait fish colors simular to what ever forage fish the bass in your area will typically be feeding on. Here in Texas thats usually shad, so black on Chrome, Blue on Chrome or Black on Gold typically work best. Where your at the main forage may be Bluegill or Rainbow Trout fingerlings. For success match the forage!

Unfortunately there are no Trout, Walleye, Pike, Muskies or other cooler water species here in Texas so I cant help you out there.
 
Hey. My Dad took us catch and release fishing when I was 8, and I haven't been again until this year (I'm 33.) And no longer doing catch and release.
Went fishing a couple weeks ago with my wife, and we caught 3 between us. 2 small bass and a sunfish. (One on a ribbontail worm, and the others just a plain rubber earthworm.) I caught 2 out of 3.

Went fishing again today, and those lures (which I was using) caught nothing, and my wife caught 3 fish with a silver spinner. 2 bluegills and a crappie. We're really not doing any prize fishing. Just spending some time together and getting dinner out of it if we catch anything. But I really have zero background or knowledge on the topic. What do you wish you would have known when you first started fishing that would have been helpful? There's probably all sorts of stuff that I wouldn't even think about.

A good starting place- We fish off the bank, and do not have a boat. My number one annoyance is getting the hook caught on rocks when I'm reeling in. Any good ideas?
-Claven
Start fishing off the end of a dock for crappie.....Use live minnows, no sinker and no bobber. Keep pole in hand and when you feel a tug start reeling. My hubby and I use to fish off a dock at the local lake where we use to live and would bring in 20 to 30 crappie in less than 30 minutes. NO JOKE!!!!!!!

I feel live minnows are the best bait for crappie or bass. Worm for Perch and catfish bait or dead minnows for cat fish. I catfish off the bottom of the pond or lake.

One time my hubby and I were fishing at one of his parents ponds. He was fishing for catfish (off the bottom) and I was fishing for bass (with live minnow about 3 feet below the surface). Well, his pole bent and almost went into the water. He started reeling and my step-daughter had the net ready to catch the CATFISH. Well the fish jumped high out of the water and it turned out to be a huge bass...My step-daughter handed me the net. He had caught a 7lb 10oz BASS. Twenty minutes later, I reeled in a 5lb cannell cat.....This was one day that the baits worked in reverse....:eek::
 
live bait will catch anything and is easy to come by or gather yourself. hoots, sinkers/shot, bobbers and hooks and you can catch eater fish of some sort. get slip bobbers not the old fixed kind and you can fish any depth of water you need. bigger lures/bait do catch bigger fish but if your trying to survive your odds are better catch small/med sized than large fish, there are just more of them.
 
A nitecrawler under a float will just about catch anything that swims. Just use a slip float or foam float, and not those clip on floats.

Also dont be afraid to smell up the nitecrawler. Find a tube of anise oil or shrimp oil and use that as an attractant and as a way to mask human scent.
 
If you're fishing Clinton Lake this time of year, throw topwater lures in the early morning (like at daybreak). Later in the day, gray grubs with silver flecks work good for bass deeper. Roadrunner jigs worked in the timber in deeper water should yield some good slab crappies. Look for shad boils and gulls for signs of where the stripers and white bass are. Spinnerbaits under docks should get you some too, but it's been 25 years since I last fished Clinton. Go down by Pittsburg and fish the strip pits as well for big Bluegills, Redears bass and crappie.
 
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If you're fishing Clinton Lake this time of year, throw topwater lures in the early morning (like at daybreak). Later in the day, gray grubs with silver flecks work good for bass deeper. Roadrunner jigs worked in the timber in deeper water should yield some good slab crappies. Look for shad boils and gulls for signs of where the stripers and white bass are. Spinnerbaits under docks should get you some too, but it's been 25 years since I last fished Clinton. Go down by Pittsburg and fish the strip pits as well for big Bluegills, Redears bass and crappie.
Hey! You're from Kansas, then. I'm unlikely to make a trip out to Pittsburgh anytime soon, but if I happen that way, I'll make sure to stop. Mostly I'm fishing Lone Star, but I've been to a few other ponds. I've been considering the Kaw, just because I live within walking distance of the access point, but construction on the bridge has ruined it for a time (you're still allowed to go, just advised not to eat the fish.) Maybe I'll check out Clinton and try out your technique.
-Claven
 
A good starting place- We fish off the bank, and do not have a boat. My number one annoyance is getting the hook caught on rocks when I'm reeling in. Any good ideas?
-Claven
Get a cheap carabiner from a hardware store, and 3 large treble hooks. Cut the barbs off the hooks and wire them securely around the large end of the carabiner. Tie a goodly length of 550 to the small end. When you get snagged, clip the rig around the fshing line and send it down to the snag by raising your pole. A few tugs on the 550 should release your line.
 
Keep the truck, sell the car, buy a boat at least 18 feet long( smoother ride)...Then use a lure called a "Slab Spoon"..( I make them)... I'm also a guide here in Oklahoma and Tx...You can find slab spoons in walmart...You can also cast them from the bank but let them sink and wind like hell to keep them from Snagging the bottom.I use 2 ouncers, but a girl I know who fishes from the bank prefers 3/4 ouncers and she does good! Try fishing in a place WITHOUT trees if your going the bank route. The "Slabs" are generally used for White Bass, Stripers, and Hybrid Stripers, but, occasionally I get some BIG walleyes as a bonus!!...Google JohnnybigfishSlabSpoons...Or Facebook..You see some pictures too!
 
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