I'm a big fan of surplus ammo because of the cost and never had a problem cleaning my guns after shooting, so corrosive is not a problem. I recently bought a Russian SKS with a chrome lined barrel and went looking for ammo for it. Aim has 1260 rounds of Yugoslavian 7.62x39 123grn FMJ for 215.00 before shipping. Then I saw they had 1000 rounds of Wolf FMJ for 199.00 before shipping. Typically when I have bought surplus in the past its because it is considerably cheaper. An extra 260 rounds for 15.00 more on surplus just doesn't seem to be that much cheaper, any thoughts??
Is 7.62x39 surplus worthwhile?
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I'm a big fan of surplus ammo because of the cost and never had a problem cleaning my guns after shooting, so corrosive is not a problem. I recently bought a Russian SKS with a chrome lined barrel and went looking for ammo for it. Aim has 1260 rounds of Yugoslavian 7.62x39 123grn FMJ for 215.00 before shipping. Then I saw they had 1000 rounds of Wolf FMJ for 199.00 before shipping. Typically when I have bought surplus in the past its because it is considerably cheaper. An extra 260 rounds for 15.00 more on surplus just doesn't seem to be that much cheaper, any thoughts??
Get it for the best price you can.
I have used wolf for over 10 years and have yet to have one not go bang or have any other issues.
Yugo is pretty good stuff and boat tail.
I like it too.
Surplus is good,just clean after use.
I like to spray the rifle down with windex before I clean for if its corrosive the ammonia part of windex will kill the salts and the soapy water part of the widex will wash it away.
Oh how I miss 70 bucks a case of 1000.
I have used wolf for over 10 years and have yet to have one not go bang or have any other issues.
Yugo is pretty good stuff and boat tail.
I like it too.
Surplus is good,just clean after use.
I like to spray the rifle down with windex before I clean for if its corrosive the ammonia part of windex will kill the salts and the soapy water part of the widex will wash it away.
Oh how I miss 70 bucks a case of 1000.
If I had ever experienced 70 bucks a case I would certainly miss it too. Sadly I was too young at that time (if born at all) I guess I would have thought the surplus would be much cheaper than it is. I have bought 7.62x54r and 7.62x25 surplus for half the price of regular guess I just didn't understand why the x39 surplus was only slightly less
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There is no need to fuss over which ammo to buy.
Buy a case or two of each of the Yugo and Wolf.
Ten to Twenty years from now you will thank me and you can tell other people how you miss $200 cases of ammo.
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I hate to admit but I remember unloading a tractor trailer of the stuff back in the 80s with the importer. I would buy the best price. Stay away from the lacquer coated ammo. It tends to cause problems in most guns. Other than that go for it. You are not going to reload any of it anyway.
Look here http://gun-deals.com/ammo to find your best deals on ammo unless you can do better locally it figures in you shipping cost as well.
If corrosive ammo isn't a problem go with the Yugo surplus. There are several reason,first it's brass cased and it want rust like the Wolf ploy ammo if it gets damp. Next the bullet is all copper jacket with a lead core which means you can shoot it at any range and not have to worry about ammo restrictions some ranges impose on steel jacket or steel core ammo.
The M67 bullet in the Yugo ammo was also from it's inception designed to tumble quicker about 7" sooner in tissue and cause more internal damage. However the newer bullets used in some of the Russian ammo like Golden Tiger is a modified version of the M67 with an air space in the nose of the bullet which sets the center of gravity back towards the tail of the bullet and destabilizes it much quicker as well.
My stash of rainy day non reloadable ammo consist of Yugo FMJ surplus on 10 rd. strippers,lacquer cased Golden Tiger FMJ and lacquer cased Bear SP ammo. I reload all my plinking and hunting ammo in both jacketed and cast bullet loads. Some don't like the lacquer coated cases but I've had no issues with it.
If corrosive ammo isn't a problem go with the Yugo surplus. There are several reason,first it's brass cased and it want rust like the Wolf ploy ammo if it gets damp. Next the bullet is all copper jacket with a lead core which means you can shoot it at any range and not have to worry about ammo restrictions some ranges impose on steel jacket or steel core ammo.
The M67 bullet in the Yugo ammo was also from it's inception designed to tumble quicker about 7" sooner in tissue and cause more internal damage. However the newer bullets used in some of the Russian ammo like Golden Tiger is a modified version of the M67 with an air space in the nose of the bullet which sets the center of gravity back towards the tail of the bullet and destabilizes it much quicker as well.
My stash of rainy day non reloadable ammo consist of Yugo FMJ surplus on 10 rd. strippers,lacquer cased Golden Tiger FMJ and lacquer cased Bear SP ammo. I reload all my plinking and hunting ammo in both jacketed and cast bullet loads. Some don't like the lacquer coated cases but I've had no issues with it.
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id get the yugo. May not be that much cheaper, but i mean 260 rounds extra for only $15 is pretty nice.
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Ouch!!
Up here in canada we pay $200-240 for a 1200rd crate of surplus
You do make some good points and Im not going to argue there.
Some things to think about.
the steel case ammo comes in spam cans for long term storage,air tight.
I keep some like this.
Also I use U.S.G.I. ammo cans.
Rubber seal and I use silica in the cans for this and other types of ammo.(even my yugo ammo)
And if your talking SHTF running around killing zombies,my ammo will not have time to rust.
That said I have a couple mags with wolf ammo poly in the trunk of my car and they have been in there summer/winter for about 6 years.
They still dont have rust and I do live in the south and things here tend to get rusty within seconds,losts of humidity.
So I dont think its that bad.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.62x39mm
also check this out
http://www.ak-47.us/Article_Detail.php?g=content1146681053
Side note for everyone.
Last few gunshows I have seen people trying to sell standard chinese ball ammo as steel core.
And a couple painted tips with a black marker trying to pass of as armor piercing ammo.
Learn the dates and check ammo as you find it!!!
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I told my lady that, she said she was more interested about the 1 yr maternity leave...
some people and their priorities
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The yugo ammo works good but it is mildly corrosive. If you don't mind shooting steel case non corrosive ammo look on CTD http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ItemDetail.aspx?sku=AMM-6408. My friend uses it his ak and it shoots great. Buy it now when its at 20 cents a round which is the best I have found to the date.
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Here's a quick look at some of what you guys have been talking about and who has it for what. Hope this helps. I just bought 2 more cases of the Yugo. These are on strippers. I have 2/1260rd cases and 3/1120rd cases of the stripper clip stuff. That's in addition to the 15,000+ rounds of steel cased russian stuff I also have. I have ammo named after just about any animal you can think of. As said above not only is the Yugo M67 what most Ak's and SKS's are designed to use but if the SHTF it can be sold or traded.
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3rd11 thanks for you insights,I store my ammo in 50 cal. can as well and I agree no need to argue. Everyone has there own opinions based on personal experiences and the way they do thing. I'm not downing Wolf I just has some bad experiences with it many years ago when I first starting shooting SKS rifle,no need for me to go into all the details I just swore the stuff off after that since I had plenty of other choices and found one's that work better.
Any mass produced ammo especially from countries where quality control isn't always the best can have bad batches on occasion,it even happens with US made ammo at times. I just assume that I got one of those batches,but it was just happening to to many others around the same time. It seem all those issues have since come and gone.
As others have mentioned try some of all the brands you can get your hands on and see what your rifle likes best,that's what I did and why I made the choices I did. SKS rifles will shoot most anything you put through them but they do have preferences and I wanted to know those preferences. Simply putting lead downrange at the lowest cost and accepting whatever accuracy it produced was never an option when I bought my SKS rifles.
Any mass produced ammo especially from countries where quality control isn't always the best can have bad batches on occasion,it even happens with US made ammo at times. I just assume that I got one of those batches,but it was just happening to to many others around the same time. It seem all those issues have since come and gone.
As others have mentioned try some of all the brands you can get your hands on and see what your rifle likes best,that's what I did and why I made the choices I did. SKS rifles will shoot most anything you put through them but they do have preferences and I wanted to know those preferences. Simply putting lead downrange at the lowest cost and accepting whatever accuracy it produced was never an option when I bought my SKS rifles.
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So, cleaning your gun every time you shoot, have you seen any pitting or corrosion?
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I have 10,000 rounds of 5.45x39 non corrosive for my AK74, and 6,000 rounds of non corrosive for my Draco (my close in gun), I never use corrosive as I don't like it and the smoke from it, but would use it if it was cost effective/to the cleaning risk, but will stay with non corrosive for now !
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