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#26 ·
onealx4 said:
Legality? The way I see it, you paid for it.. do with it what you want.
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You paid a fee to be issued it, the actual license is still property of the State.

Now businesses have no reason to be scanning them to collect data.
 
#28 ·
I refuse to let them scan it, they cant either, a piece of card board behind the license for a couple of months wears out the stuff a might quicker... so I'm told.

Another thing Ive noticed is they have been asking for my phone number a lot if they haven't been asking for the card. 555-555-5555, some get the humor, only one has gotten mad at me. Or if there cute ill ask if its for there personal use.
 
#29 ·
When the Bar or the store ask for ID I just give them my retired military ID. It cant be scanned by their machines. When the bar ask me why I dont have a license I just tell them I got a DUI and dont have one anymore but drive anyways, kinda like the Illegals Aliens here do. They need a phone number? Just make one up on the spot. Need a Zip Code? Ill give them one from out of state.

And yet we wonder why ID theft is so rampant...
 
#30 ·
labotomi said:
I'd heard about this, but today was the first time I've experienced it firsthand.

After shopping for a few things at the local Target, I decided to pick up a bottle of wine. At the counter, the cashier asked for my drivers license which I provided. She then scanned into the computer without asking or notifying me. Needless to say, I was stunned.

What information could they legitimately need that couldn't be seen on the front of the license by the cashier and not stored in their database?
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There are certain places over here where they check for warrants, court orders and apprehended violence orders, none of which is listed on the licence.
 
#31 ·
labotomi said:
Yeah, I was caught off guard. It won't happen again :thumb:
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Then you won't be getting your wine. It was the only reason they did it. Had you not bought alcohol they wouldn't of scanned your license. lol What top secret information do you think they could possibly obtain? It's to defeat fake ID's. I think grocery stores in certain states had to get those to be able to sell alcohol. It's that way in PA.

They don't check for warrants in PA at the grocery store. The only places I have seen them used is at a grocery store where they sell alcohol. I suppose it could be different else where.
 
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#33 ·
TinmanIA said:
I refuse to let them scan it, they cant either, a piece of card board behind the license for a couple of months wears out the stuff a might quicker... so I'm told.

Another thing Ive noticed is they have been asking for my phone number a lot if they haven't been asking for the card. 555-555-5555, some get the humor, only one has gotten mad at me. Or if there cute ill ask if its for there personal use.
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The phone number is definitely for marketing. I won't lie to avoid their stupid tactics I tell them its unlisted or simply none of their business. You do not have to provide them with ANY information. The exception is unless your buying tobacco or alcohol. And only then if you want to continue the purchase. (lol I tired)
 
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Don't forget the ones with RFID chips in them, as the DMV guy told me 2 years ago when I lived in PA that the next generation of d.l. Was going to have them installed. As far as keeping the license with the mag. Strip and or the RFID chip "safe" don't accidentally hit the chip with a ball peen hammer or do not accidentally put it in the microwave for 2 sessions of 5 seconds or so. Remember do NOT do those things and your licenses will be safe and last for years.
 
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firstforcerecon said:
Then you won't be getting your wine. It was the only reason they did it. Had you not bought alcohol they wouldn't of scanned your license.
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There's plenty of alternative locations to purchase wine that don't scan your license.
firstforcerecon said:
lol What top secret information do you think they could possibly obtain? It's to defeat fake ID's. I think grocery stores in certain states had to get those to be able to sell alcohol. It's that way in PA.
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First, there's nothing secret on my license, but I'd rather not them scan my information into their database. They have no right to peoples information without their consent.

I'm not sure nor do I care about the requirements of PA. There's no requirement in this state for IDs to be scanned for any reason by anyone other than a police officer.
 
#36 ·
labotomi said:
I'd heard about this, but today was the first time I've experienced it firsthand.

After shopping for a few things at the local Target, I decided to pick up a bottle of wine. At the counter, the cashier asked for my drivers license which I provided. She then scanned into the computer without asking or notifying me. Needless to say, I was stunned.

What information could they legitimately need that couldn't be seen on the front of the license by the cashier and not stored in their database?

Identity theft is at an all time high due to these companies collecting all the information needed into these supposedly "secure" databases.

I have sent an email to the Target Corporate Office expressing my distain and needless to say, won't be shopping there again. There's too many other places I can shop that don't collect my personal information.
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If you own a driver's license, you are open to identity theft. Doesn't take a Target worker to need a scanner. BTW, I used to be a sales manager for a large box store and everytime you pay with your credit card, the computer keeps the entire 16 digit number on file meaning any cashier who is smart enough and wanted to bad enough can just pull it up, go home and shop contentedly away without having to worry about your license. While it usually took at least local admin rights to access the info, we fired two cashiers and had them arrested for this while I worked there. The second one had made purchases in excess of 30k over the course of one year.
 
#38 ·
FOID Card UnAcceptable

papajoscochise said:
I never show them my drivers license....just my pistol permit, has my DOB right on the front. Also jokingly tell them it's my "license to kill", some get the James Bond reference but a lot of them don't!
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In Illinois the firearms owner's identification card is unacceptable ID for alot of companies and even the IDMV ..... they'll accept paperwork like an utility bill to obtain a drivers license, but a FOID from the State Police is bogus .... go figure
 
#39 ·
Whenever something like this happens I ask WHY? It does not hurt to ask why? I would probably say no or if it was a question about zip code, phone number, etc I give a fake one. Do you want Target or anyone else knowing what you are buying? If it's the state law well you may be screwed but if it's not simply say no thanks and typically the person will back off. We give up too much information to folks. I have seen too many forms that ask for SSN and such and I don't fill it out. Don't forget to use fake phone numbers unless you really want to company to contact you
 
#40 ·
The Saint said:
Mine has both barcode and strip.

the License belongs to the state legally, altering it is illegal. now I don’t know who is going to actually prosecute you, its one of those catch 22 laws.

They swipe it just like they do in clubs to verify your age.

all the barcode has enough room for is the information contained on the front.

Nothing nefarious here.

If you have the newer license or passport with the RFID in them they don’t even need to touch it to scan it.

Welcome to the New Age folks.
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Arg.

"Texas' current driver's license uses both magnetic stripe and bar-code technology in a format similar to a credit or debit card. The bar-code information is used for DPS administrative functions at the driver's license offices; the magnetic stripe contains all the information printed on the front of the card. DPS is equipping officers' cars with magnetic stripe readers so that officers, with a swipe of the driver's license, can check the driver's eligibility to operate an automobile.

The next innovation in card technology is the "smart card," a card containing an integrated circuit and a microprocessor.[8] The smart card can contain much more information than a magnetic stripe or a bar code"
 
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