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#21 ·
jaygriff said:
Ray Mears concentrates on the craft of survival. Never gives the false impression of being on his own, in fact makes a point of the fact that he has well equipped back-up with him. Mind you I do not see him in the same way as the other so-called experts, more like a teacher trying to impart real knowledge. His series Wild Foods is a tour de-force on forgotten knowledge. He understands the incredible knowledge the human species has lost and tries to make you stop and think if so-called modern ways of living are all that great for the human condition.
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Agreed...Mears puts it perspective and while he is making a living at it he is not a chest-pounding nut. I like his videos and his books. I think he strikes an acceptable balance.
 
#22 ·
Kaleb said:
I lost interest in the "survival Shows" the day i saw that guy squeeze an elephant turd over his head to prove you could drink the water it was saturated w/.:eek::eek: Me and the wife said it at the same time...Damn, ain't there something else on?!?!?!?!?!?!
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Yeah... that's TV going for ratings skewed by the kids. TV really hasn't a clue. It is the adults with the money and yet they pander to 14-year-old boy. It's rather disgusting.
 
Discussion starter · #23 ·
"Practical experience makes a world of difference"

Of course in no way was I defending / supporting / endorsing Bear or any of the others by stating the "ex-military" thing. As you so eloquently put it Lamb, just becaue you're "ex" something don't mean squat....;) I appreciate the well versed response.....:)
 
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ready1 said:
I have enjoyed the series about surviving in Alaska. The name escapes me at the moment. Groups of people had to survive a winter on "their own".
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I watched this one too but let's face it, that show was also fitted to the mass viewing audience.....like it has been said in other threads and responses concerning the Alaska Experience, put some people who actually know what they're doing in that same situation and see what happens.....wouldn't be very interesting viewing I wager.........;)
 
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Hanta Yo 252 said:
I watched this one too but let's face it, that show was also fitted to the mass viewing audience.....like it has been said in other threads and responses concerning the Alaska Experience, put some people who actually know what they're doing in that same situation and see what happens.....wouldn't be very interesting viewing I wager.........;)
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I watched Alaska Experience. It was especially funny watching the young liberal vegetarian chick standing over a rabbit or whatever they were skinning and she was practically drooling...:p
 
#29 ·
Lamb said:
I watched Alaska Experience. It was especially funny watching the young liberal vegetarian chick standing over a rabbit or whatever they were skinning and she was practically drooling...:p
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There is an old saying...there are no atheists in foxholes.... but that is not true. However, I doubt there will be few vegetarians post SHTF... and what ones there are will die off.
 
#30 ·
I am not too fond of the word "expert" and having said that, I've watched some of these survival shows. To me, some of the stuff makes me laugh and other things are a "yeah, but.." I'm all for making people aware of what they can use around themselves, and yes, to those who have never been in a situation to survive anything, makes for good entertainment...but to label themselves experts, just don't float in my book and that goes for any profession. One can be very proficient in what they do, but no one is really an expert in anything. Just my $.02.
 
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Same can be said for the SAS in the First Gulf War I guess...they survived some god awful nights while not being prepared for the unexpected conditions. But I too, along with several others survived behind enemy lines from getting lost..yep, you heard that right...do I consider myself an expert? Heck no. I used what I was trained with and that is it. But it don't make you no expert.
 
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BuckBall said:
Same can be said for the SAS in the First Gulf War I guess...they survived some god awful nights while not being prepared for the unexpected conditions. But I too, along with several others survived behind enemy lines from getting lost..yep, you heard that right...do I consider myself an expert? Heck no. I used what I was trained with and that is it. But it don't make you no expert.
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I'm sorry I must have overlooked the University of Survival in the phone book. I suppose they hand out masters degrees in survival. (Note sarcasm)

Look, human beings, like most creatures, inherently know what they need to survive. They need food, water, shelter, and rest. If you can endure for a long period of time in a given set of circumstances and come out alive, you're an expert. I don't need the blessings of the SAS, or SOCOM for that, and nothing against those boys I think they do a great job.

The reality of it is, this a field where anyone and everyone with the smarts and the ability to get through whatever circumstances they are presented with has the right to say that to some degree they too are experts on the matter. Weather someone else did it better than you doesn't matter. There's no ribbons here, worst to first, there's only weather or not you made it out alive.
 
#37 ·
The Bear show is more of a comedy.

Les is the real deal in the sense that he seems to be really doing the stuff, but he demostrates how tough it can be & in many of his shows he is very inept at getting food. In the desert episode he eats food when he has very little water & has to stumble out a couple days early because he is severly dehydrated - in real situation he would have died. I wouldn't mind being with him in a survival situation, but wouldn't do everything he does.

Cody Lundin - I haven't read his books - he seems to know what he is talking about in the Youtube videos I've seen - nothing jumps out as suspect - though his 2-4 weeks of food comes up short by a couple years IMO, but he does say how much food is up to you.


 
#38 ·
Totally agree with you Black Horse. I have a huge issue with labels...thus don't believe in them. For example, I hold a doctorates degree...to me, whoopdedoo. It's just a title, but I never use the "Dr." in my name, on my license or in my profession because titles don't make you who you are or what you are. Some people enjoy titles because it makes them feel better than others, more important and sometimes more powerful. But I feel if you're good at what you do, cool. However, one doesn't need to label themselves to look important to the world.
 
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