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07-28-2019 09:13 PM
goat daddy
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Originally Posted by Runamok View Post
An 8'x8' will be huge lol. I would say 4'x6' would be plenty for two people and lawn chairs. However, with your dimensions you could put in a stove
8' square is because lumber is cut at 8'. Two 8'X4' sheets of decking on 8' 2X6's would do the floor. I have 12' metal roofing. A quick frame on the posts, roofing up, throw some wheat straw on the with chicken wire to hold it down and the roof is done and camo'ed. 4' deck and enclose the back half. I have windows from the trailer. I have a couple of solar panels and a marine battery. Plant some turnips and oats in the meadow and I will have pig and deer hunting. I'm almost 70. In a few years my hunting is going to be close to home. Best to prepare now. I already have a camp cot, sleeping bag and 12 volt blanket. I could be quite comfortable.
07-28-2019 07:38 PM
Runamok
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Lets get some pics. I want to build a blind in my back pasture. I'm thinking 8'X8" with a 7" ceiling. Not sure of distance off the ground. My thought is a 4" deck with 6' of enclosed space. I have a seasonal creek and have put a seasonal duck pond on it. I'm thinking 4' off the ground? Plan "B" is to put it on the ridge and do a ground level blind by the pond. I really like the idea of being dry and warm while watching the meadow. I'm looking for ideas. I am taking apart a 28' camp trailer and saving the siding. Camo paint and ???
An 8'x8' will be huge lol. I would say 4'x6' would be plenty for two people and lawn chairs. However, with your dimensions you could put in a stove
07-24-2019 07:17 PM
goat daddy Lets get some pics. I want to build a blind in my back pasture. I'm thinking 8'X8" with a 7" ceiling. Not sure of distance off the ground. My thought is a 4" deck with 6' of enclosed space. I have a seasonal creek and have put a seasonal duck pond on it. I'm thinking 4' off the ground? Plan "B" is to put it on the ridge and do a ground level blind by the pond. I really like the idea of being dry and warm while watching the meadow. I'm looking for ideas. I am taking apart a 28' camp trailer and saving the siding. Camo paint and ???
07-24-2019 06:57 PM
Snyper708
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Originally Posted by Hick Industries View Post
Im thinking of supporting it with 8" dia PT posts and 2 x 10 beams and attach this structure to a large tree. Then use 2 x 8 floor joists and a left over sheet of wood flooring, and corogated roofing metal. I plan on building wood stairs with a hand rail instead of a ladder.

I have been building post frame ranch buildings, so basicaly Im thinking of a pole barn platform, with a metal roof.
Sounds like overkill to me unless you weigh 500 lbs.
07-24-2019 10:42 AM
Al Diehl
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Originally Posted by Brettny View Post
They sell that camo OSB at HD and lowes every year around fall. I believe its roughly $30 a sheet. Never used it my self but i do know OSB dosnt last long outside.

Have any current pictures of that blind AL?
I'll try to get some updated pics.

The OSB has lasted very well. No signs of deterioration as far as I can see. The Camo PSB has a kind of plastic coating on it and it seem to protect it very well.

Al
07-24-2019 09:45 AM
Brettny They sell that camo OSB at HD and lowes every year around fall. I believe its roughly $30 a sheet. Never used it my self but i do know OSB dosnt last long outside.

Have any current pictures of that blind AL?
07-24-2019 08:59 AM
Al Diehl
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Originally Posted by Runamok View Post
How bad does that camo fade? Where did you get it? I like that it breaks up the big square trying to hide in the woods. We usually spray paint camo our box blinds.
It hasn't faded as badly as I thought that it would. It is still effective after 9 years. I did spray paint (camo) the upper part of the window since I only look out of the bottom part.
I bought the Camo OSB at Lowes.

Al
07-23-2019 09:18 PM
Runamok
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Originally Posted by Al Diehl View Post
Mine is simply a 4'x8' building with a window set about 10-11 off of the the ground (on a hillside). If I were on level ground with the deer, I would have gone a little higher.

Fully enclosed with a double pane window.

Here are a couple of pictures during construction. One close up and one from the deer's vantage point.





Been taking deer from it regularly for 9 years now.

Al
How bad does that camo fade? Where did you get it? I like that it breaks up the big square trying to hide in the woods. We usually spray paint camo our box blinds.
07-23-2019 09:16 PM
Millwright I think these mirrored stands are a really cool concept, but kinda unnecessary.

You could hunt off of a Mardi Gras float, as long as it had been in place for a week or two. Deer seem to adapt to things near a feeder fairly quick.



07-22-2019 12:09 PM
Al Diehl Mine is simply a 4'x8' building with a window set about 10-11 off of the the ground (on a hillside). If I were on level ground with the deer, I would have gone a little higher.

Fully enclosed with a double pane window.

Here are a couple of pictures during construction. One close up and one from the deer's vantage point.





Been taking deer from it regularly for 9 years now.

Al
07-22-2019 10:56 AM
Millwright Runamok touched on something important, windows.

Do your homework on them.

I would shy away from commercial windows because the structure will shift and possibly jam them. Maybe if they were set in a fairly solid welded metal frame?

Plexiglass deteriorates in the sun. Put a metal cover over them for off season? A high stand can make for difficult maintenance.

Our original stands just had flop down or lift up panels of whatever siding we used. Kinda drafty in winter.

Deer stands are an evolution process.
07-21-2019 09:24 PM
Runamok Get something like this (https://www.amazon.com/HME-Multi-Use.../dp/B07BGJ5ZQ8) to attach the posts to the bottom of your blind, cross brace the posts and you can easily move the blind with a skidsteer.

Anchor the blind with a mobile home tornado anchor. You don't need to go near as big with the lumber unless you're building a massive blind.

We have 3-4 home built box blinds and make them tallest in the front so that we can stand up in them and then they slope to the back. Single flat roof angle. Some blinds have sliding windows, flip out windows or no windows. Biggest things for us is: something to cut the winter wind, place to sit down and have a secure rest, and get an elevated position so that you can see better above the brush.
07-21-2019 08:34 PM
two bits I've seen a raised platform made from telephone poles, treated 4x4's, & even well pipe. There is one near where I hunt on a high spoil bank overlooking a meadow.
My friend built one and set it up with the forks of the tractor.
I don't recommend attaching it on or near a tree. That tree will always become a problem when shooting. Map out your shooting lanes, then set the stand, be free standing, at the cross roads of them lanes.
I built a stand from the pipes of a chain link fence for legs. With correct bracing, 12' was really nice.
07-21-2019 06:17 PM
fragout
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Originally Posted by Hick Industries View Post
Im thinking of supporting it with 8" dia PT posts and 2 x 10 beams and attach this structure to a large tree. Then use 2 x 8 floor joists and a left over sheet of wood flooring, and corogated roofing metal. I plan on building wood stairs with a hand rail instead of a ladder.

I have been building post frame ranch buildings, so basicaly Im thinking of a pole barn platform, with a metal roof.
I have built and used quite a few in the Ozarks, as I have kin who have lived there.

A few ideas for your consideration......

1. Attach to a tree : Steer clear of cedars. Find a mature, healthy Oak or Hickory . Have built them several ways, but found that one great method to attach to trees is by using chain or cable " around" the tree instead of screws or nails directly into the tree. ( Less maint and protects the tree from insects that can eventually kill it.) Cable with premade rubber coating of some sort ( or home made) protects the bark.
Note: We have a stand off of an old oak that was used by my grand dad when he was a kid.....and currently used by my grand kids ......so a good tree will last generations in the Ozarks.
Note: Most of our permanent stands are built " up in" the trees.

2. The roof: A metal roof will be loud as all get out in a rainstorm. Most hearing will be masked by rainfall regardless, but a metal roof will pretty much reduce hearing to 0. I prefer a simple wood roof via treated 4x8 plywood.

Note: If a " lean to " style, angle it away from your primary field of view and/ or utilize gutters. I like rain gutters simply as another way to collect water.


3 . Maintenance: Minimal is optimum, but should not be overlooked. Especially using stairs instead of a ladder design......which is a very interesting idea and use this more often in TX vs the Ozarks. With well made materials, less maint. One thing that should not be overlooked = maintaining your fields/ areas of observation ....especially with multiple directions involved. Simply put = Some brush/ tree limb clearing may be in order. ( You may not wanna cut down entire trees simply to remove a few branches from line of sight if your the landowner). If that's the case here, and this is " seasonal " hunting, a good time to do this is late summer.
Also note that a open roof such as this will attract barn swallows into making nests inside. ( As you already know, very messy.)

On a side note: Have found unwanted guests sittin in our permanent stands in the past. ( Trespassers / illegal hunters). Typically from the cities. Ya know.......the smart a$$ types who think they know it all, have a plan, etc........
Have a plan in case you run i to this. ( Mine is the following....... Pre shtf = gunpoint until sherrif arrives. Post shtf = a backhoe. )

Good luck with your project.

11B
07-21-2019 09:46 AM
Millwright Been on the same deer lease in Tx for almost 30 years.

For the first few years, we was poor. Everything got built from scraps off of construction sites, etc.

I know there has been hundreds of hours and many beers dedicated to stand design, all on the front porch of deer camp.

I would look at commercial built stands and see what features you really like, then design around them. Such as, a high stand wants the tall narrow windows that allow bow hunters to shoot almost straight down.

If you are building in a permanent location, try to get up to the final height and look at everything, before you start. Give consideration to what everything will look like in a year, or 5 or 10. Will the trees grow and block shooting lanes, etc?

Tying to a tree is not a good idea, IMO. A good stand should last years, a tree maybe not. You might want to move the stand, hard to move the tree. That one time you need a good rest for a shot, the wind will be blowing and shaking the stand.
07-21-2019 09:39 AM
divinginn I would do the box blind also.
07-21-2019 07:34 AM
cavedweller If you have posts to build with. You could just build a elevated box blind.

I would not combine some poles and tie them in with a tree. As the tree is going to move with the wind. It will loosen the fasteners in your framing. Long term could become a safety issue.

If you are wanting to build a big tree house, there are some good tree house building vids on YT. -K


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Originally Posted by Hick Industries View Post
Im thinking of supporting it with 8" dia PT posts and 2 x 10 beams and attach this structure to a large tree. Then use 2 x 8 floor joists and a left over sheet of wood flooring, and corogated roofing metal. I plan on building wood stairs with a hand rail instead of a ladder.

I have been building post frame ranch buildings, so basicaly Im thinking of a pole barn platform, with a metal roof.
07-21-2019 01:06 AM
randolphrowzeebragg A friend and I built one with a plywood floor dropped into a rectangular frame made out of angle iron. That way when we weren't using it we could flip the plywood out and no one else could use it. We didn't own the property and the owner told us the stand had to be fairly innocuous so it wouldn't attract trespassing hunters, which are a big problem in my area.
We fabricated the whole thing in my shop and then only had to take it to the site and hang it in the tree. When we found a better site we took it down and moved it in about an hour.
07-21-2019 12:09 AM
Hick Industries Cant decide how high, perhaps 8 to 12 ft. I have a specific site picked out. I want to track movement over a couple deer trails, so I will check the line of sight before building it..
07-20-2019 11:14 PM
Bob3rd Do you want elevated or groung?

Never mind, just saw your last message.
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