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08-24-2019 06:26 AM
Matzoh Ball Soup "Never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee."

Apt quote. Like "an open enemy is better than a false friend”, "be alert and stay alive" and "see you at the equator." ms0degrees
08-18-2019 01:20 PM
Frederick von Strass Yes.

Never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
03-18-2019 06:37 AM
Die Kat Kom Weer Greetings All,
ESKOM's sure is doing more to build 'social cohesion' than the Government. EVERYONE is equally fed up with its failure to thrive.
Stage 4 Loadshedding is a first though , but EsKom introduced it this Saturday and by Sunday Eve ,, broke the news that Stage 4 will spill over to Monday, (+and probably Tuesday Eve ).
It sounded weird from the start. We are forever being sedated with renewed promises that *, this time, they are totalling in top of it*.

But then the cyclone severed transmission lines from Mozambique , and BOOM , this loss of 900MW somehow led to the need to shed 4000MW on a Saturday....

Please, for I am clearly an idiot , can someone shed some valuable insight with me?
- Sure, EsKom has been struggling with service delivery, but this has just suddenly shot from occassional bouts of Loadshedding (stage 1 & 2) , to MayDay!!

https://youtu.be/Pv-yMwDWVe0https://youtu.be/Pv-yMwDWVe0

This clip at least offer some insight and sense. Watch from about 1:20:00 ....
Do you actually believe that ESKOM is suddenly unable to generate 50% of its capacity , because of cyclones and transformers that exploded due to ageing materials?

Or is there a serious situation that they are not sharing with the public , to avoid panic?
Or are they busy building up to creating wide spread panic in the public?
- if so, do you think it's COSATUs revolt to the unbundling, or could it be an ANC initiative to engineer a National State of Emergency?
-possibly even Putin reminding SA that Zuma signed a deal to build 8 new power stations years ago?!! 🙃

Also, it seems the whole of Southern Africa is affected??
Namibia is confirmed in the clip , but no online stories about the others.
Is this possoy true? And if so, why would ESKOM"s situation start spreading to all neighbours.? Did we actually supply power to the entire region? I thought we were just selling to Zim??
01-16-2019 09:42 PM
Sinthor
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Originally Posted by drray777 View Post
Hmmm... That IS interesting. Of course, the "out" there is the actual declaration of a genocide. Kind of like declaring war...it's an act of official recognition. If the government stops just short of that...they're not committed to anything. Encouraging though! Hopefully the world will take note and hopefully our government has the intestinal fortitude to actually act if someone FAILS to take note.
01-16-2019 12:52 PM
drray777 This is interesting...

https://southafricatoday.net/media/s...-south-africa/
01-01-2019 09:34 AM
Sorry-no-clues
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Originally Posted by 300 Boere View Post
Mr Trump is busy ****ing up the Brick nations (China). So those who say he is just talk about SA does not see that indeed the USA will gain substantially if SA exits Bricks, or is weakened dramatically. May, the dancing queen, has a narrow or specific aim for minerals in the north, Mr. Trump is looking at the big picture, he wants to crush China. May is willing to let the Chinese take some and she takes some, her half measures will fail. Mr. Trump is winning.
You overestimate May's ability to formulate and then carry out a coherent plan.
12-29-2018 04:27 PM
300 Boere All men of this realm shall die oneday. Most will die old and beyond their potential for valour.
You go die where you like, draadsitters, I will die in Africa. My blood. My land.
09-06-2018 10:44 PM
Gator Monroe
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Sure, we can. But you must understand that the bulk of the Boers will not trek damn anywhere. People think that Boers must be stupid and not know what is going on so we just stay out of ignorance, but actually the Boer knows exactly what is going on and chooses to stay nonetheless. Personally I am trying to get my wife and child out, but I will die here come peace or war.
You are the most honest respondent to this thread tree .
09-06-2018 04:53 PM
300 Boere
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You can load up the Car or Wagon and drive to many places in Africa to get work , your not trapped behind an Iron Curtain (Yet)
Sure, we can. But you must understand that the bulk of the Boers will not trek damn anywhere. People think that Boers must be stupid and not know what is going on so we just stay out of ignorance, but actually the Boer knows exactly what is going on and chooses to stay nonetheless. Personally I am trying to get my wife and child out, but I will die here come peace or war.
09-06-2018 04:23 PM
300 Boere Mr Trump is busy ****ing up the Brick nations (China). So those who say he is just talk about SA does not see that indeed the USA will gain substantially if SA exits Bricks, or is weakened dramatically. May, the dancing queen, has a narrow or specific aim for minerals in the north, Mr. Trump is looking at the big picture, he wants to crush China. May is willing to let the Chinese take some and she takes some, her half measures will fail. Mr. Trump is winning.
09-01-2018 12:53 PM
Lagnar
08-31-2018 01:34 PM
KeyboardKommando
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You welcome m naaier
I see what you did there....
08-31-2018 11:53 AM
Gator Monroe You can load up the Car or Wagon and drive to many places in Africa to get work , your not trapped behind an Iron Curtain (Yet)
08-31-2018 01:22 AM
jetgraphics
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Ok I'm in. Where do we start?
If you were located in the uSA, I'd suggest the Declaration of Independence (1776). Since you're out of the uSA, you're not under a republican form of government, where the people are sovereigns, and the government is their servant. Nor are your endowed rights secure from trespass.

If you'd like to sponsor a revolution in SA, and replace the socialists with a new government, that's one possibility.
Ironically, most Americans don't know what a republican form of government is, nor its source and origin. But they're victims of the world's greatest propaganda ministry, and wouldn't know how to identify their opponents and allies to be of much use.
. . .
“... at the Revolution, the sovereignty devolved on the people, and they are truly the sovereigns of the country, but they are sovereigns without subjects, and have none to govern but themselves. . .
“... In Europe, the sovereignty is generally ascribed to the Prince; here, it rests with the people; there, the sovereign actually administers the government; here, never in a single instance; our Governors are the agents of the people, and, at most, stand in the same relation to their sovereign in which regents in Europe stand to their sovereigns.”
- - - Justice John Jay, Chisholm v. Georgia, 2 U.S. 2 Dall. 419 419 (1793)
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremec...CR_0002_0419_Z

The next revolution (the French) avoided the "American mistake" of making the people sovereign over the government, and explicitly made the government sovereign over all subject peoples. No other government or revolution, since 1776, established a republican form, wherein the people were sovereigns, served by governments instituted to secure their endowed rights. Tragically, Americans were tricked into volunteering out, as early as the 1820s. And the propaganda ministry has spared no expense at eradicating any memory of it.
"What I do say is that no man is good enough to govern another man without that other's consent. I say this is the leading principle, the sheet-anchor of American republicanism. Our Declaration of Independence says: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: That all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed."
- - - Abraham Lincoln, Speech at Peoria, Illinois (1854)
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Abraham_lincoln

As Lincoln reminds us, under the republican form, promised by the USCON, described by the Declaration of Independence, NO MAN (nor American government) is good enough to govern you without your consent. Without your consent, all that government is authorized to do is secure endowed (sacred) rights (prosecute trespass; adjudicate disputes; defend against enemies, foreign or domestic).

In all other countries, the government does not need your consent to govern you.
Which may explain why America can not be allowed to flourish under the republican form, for if it did so, it would spark world wide revolutions against the "Powers That Be."

What scares the PTB :
" PERSONAL LIBERTY, or the Right to enjoyment of life and liberty, is one of the fundamental or natural Rights, which has been protected by its inclusion as a guarantee in the various constitutions, which is not derived from, or dependent on, the U.S. Constitution, which may not be submitted to a vote and may not depend on the outcome of an election. It is one of the most sacred and valuable Rights, as sacred as the Right to private property ... and is regarded as inalienable."
- - - 16 Corpus Juris Secundum , Constitutional Law, Sect.202, p.987.
There is no "voting" in the republican form of government. No majority can legally oppress a minority. The sovereign people have their rights unless they consent to be governed, and descend in status. But in a democrazy, all bets are off. (Which explains why the Confederate States had to secede and not merely return to the republican form. There is no slavery under a republican form, only a constitutional democracy.)

Under glorious democratic socialism (since 1933), Americans do not have sacred / inherent / inalienable rights nor liberties nor absolute ownership of private property. According to the law, by their consent, they have mandatory civic duties that abrogate endowed rights, as willing participants in the bankrupt, but benevolent totalitarian police state.
They need permission (license) and or pay a tax to live, work, trade, travel, own, build a house, enter occupations, treat the sick, hunt, fish, marry or own a dog... and must have a nationally approved internal passport (I.D. card).

And if ever they do rediscover what was stolen from them, they might behave in an unChristian manner toward their 'superiors.'
But that would require them to make an effort to read their own laws and history, which is highly unlikely at this point.
08-30-2018 11:31 PM
Rural Buckeye Guy Friends of mine worked in Nambia and. ANGOLA, BELIEVE IT, DO IT.
08-30-2018 11:29 PM
Rural Buckeye Guy Killing ANC leaders, followed by mining appaoch roads to siezure spots. Replicate tactics used in Rhodesia. Its only fair. End with executing this govt and as many communist supportes as will fill that trench. Worked in south and central america, will work in SA.
08-30-2018 11:02 PM
drray777
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[Pessimist flag on] Unlikely to happen due to rampant ignorance, apathy and arrogance in its defense.
BUT
If the uSA went 'off the reservation' that would have a domino effect, taking down the Federal Reserve corporation - which is the fiduciary agent for the UN as well as the USA. Without the UN, IMF, World Bank, etc, etc, the ability to operate against SA interests would diminish.

Furthermore, the gold in SA would bump it to the top of the list with regard to financial power in a gold hungry world (absent the 'dollar bill'). (Not that I advocate gold based money - but there is a widely held belief in gold)

And with the fall of the People's Democratic Socialist Republic of America, it would be one less goad to surrender property rights to the State.
Ok I'm in. Where do we start?
08-30-2018 05:47 PM
jetgraphics
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Sounds interesting but what is the likelihood that any of that will happen? And how would it apply to us here in SA?
[Pessimist flag on] Unlikely to happen due to rampant ignorance, apathy and arrogance in its defense.
BUT
If the uSA went 'off the reservation' that would have a domino effect, taking down the Federal Reserve corporation - which is the fiduciary agent for the UN as well as the USA. Without the UN, IMF, World Bank, etc, etc, the ability to operate against SA interests would diminish.

Furthermore, the gold in SA would bump it to the top of the list with regard to financial power in a gold hungry world (absent the 'dollar bill'). (Not that I advocate gold based money - but there is a widely held belief in gold)

And with the fall of the People's Democratic Socialist Republic of America, it would be one less goad to surrender property rights to the State.
08-30-2018 01:28 PM
300 Boere You welcome m naaier
08-30-2018 10:55 AM
drray777
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Not sure Doc I am stupid with these things. I think you should save it on your phone then watsapp the number and ask to be added?

You can't "chat" on it, but rather you contribute by messaging the admin then they verify it and only then do they post it.
Ok 300, I did that. Will see what happens and if they add me or not. Thanks bro.
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