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03-07-2015 09:50 PM
Mechman Kel, whatever x91 you go for do not buy the pinned barrel models that are out there. They will go loose and accuracy is gone and much more importantly there are some major safety issues. The first one I bought had all sorts of need stuff included like a rail mounts and scope and the dealer even threw in a flashlight. I thought that was cool until while walking away from sales table bumped the rifle and low and behold the barrel twisted in my hand. This even with forearm was off about 10. Got money back and got a DPMS Tac 20 and I am happy.
03-07-2015 06:58 PM
Chili Try the FALfiles site. Someone is always selling kits and completed rifles. Most kits are in the $400-$500 range some higher. Rifles are $900+. Usually "+".
03-07-2015 06:42 PM
mrstang01 I have a Polytech M14, but I think I'd rather have a FAL. Who has the best prices on them these days? I wish I'd gotten one of the cheap kits when they were available.
03-01-2015 09:28 AM
H2OMAN
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Originally Posted by Heckler&Coke View Post



Aww kitteh! But I really don't know how it's the best value?
I did say it was the best value for my money, YRMV
02-28-2015 11:59 PM
Unobtanium Well, best for the money, how about a Colt .308 for $1300?

http://www.sportsmansoutdoorsupersto...-308-win-rifle
02-28-2015 11:47 PM
kev1n69
not to derail but that site is cool as

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Originally Posted by Canadian Guy View Post
Norinco M305B (M14 clone) for $429, but only available in Canada. I have one on pre-order as couldn't pass up one for that price.

http://www.marstar.ca/gf-norinco/M-305.shtm
Excelent selection. Make me wish i had lots of dough.
02-28-2015 09:58 PM
lew.45 Plus one on love for the POF 308.
02-27-2015 04:05 AM
Cavadus My DSA SA58CP18 has no issues whatsoever with steel case.
02-27-2015 03:59 AM
HorseSoldier
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Originally Posted by Heckler&Coke View Post
You must be kidding? And just how many steel cased russian rounds have you put down the pipe of an FAL? DSA's refuse to eat it.
Have a good deal of experience with real PSG1s, HK53s, and various flavors of MP5s and seen all of them run fine on ammo they're designed around and be quirky with ammo they weren't designed for (i.e. M118LR, Mk262, non-M882 9mm) -- because the roller locks have to be tuned to the ammo and recoil impulse. Some guns don't seem to mind variations, others have more issues. They're not designed to be the lone rifle of the apocalypse, eating ghetto mags full of 10 different makes and bullet weights in the same caliber, they're designed to run on a standard military load. This is an issue in theory with all military weapons, but the roller locks are probably the most effected by it outside of the M1 Garand.

Haven't seen any issues with steel cased ammo in the couple FALs I own, including the DSA, but this isn't a FAL vs G3 issue, it's just an aspect of the roller lock design.
02-26-2015 08:01 PM
Heckler&Coke
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Originally Posted by HorseSoldier View Post
Roller locks are more sensitive to ammo variation than gas systems.
You must be kidding? And just how many steel cased russian rounds have you put down the pipe of an FAL? DSA's refuse to eat it.

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Originally Posted by sardog View Post
I don't believe the HK has a gas system other than to assist loosening the cartridge in the chamber.
Right, it's a roller lock system. The flutes in the chamber allow excess gas to flow past to keep the spent cases from sticking.

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Originally Posted by H2OMAN View Post
The best value in 308 semi-auto rifles for my money continues to be the M14 pattern rifle.

Aww kitteh! But I really don't know how it's the best value? For the price tag of most new M1as you can just about buy a PTR, a spare parts kit, a plate carrier, mag pouches, steel plates, and ammo...oh AND an entire pallet of factory magazines...LOL
02-19-2015 02:15 PM
TheMonsantoPlanto

While not in the price range mentioned, I'm really growing to love the POF P308. Aside from weight (the biggest ding on the P308) the rest of the package is so well sorted. Being able to keep the AR "pattern" is of inestimable benefit. Same operation, same accessories, same benefits but in a true "battle" round. I like piston in .308, and I like full ambidextrous controls. I love the monolithic rail, so no worries about optics or other accessory placement. I love the match-grade barrel that is balls-out accurate and durable. I love the single-stage match trigger group. I love that it takes standard AR10 Pmags (or any other standard mag) that are cheap and ubiquitous. POF charges a nominal premium over, say, the Ruger SR762, but it's a significant upgrade with all of the ambi controls and true match-grade components, and the rail system is a significant improvement also. I also like the simplicity of the 3-way adjustable gas system -- semi-auto, suppressed, or "bolt" / single round.

Call me a POF salesman, but the P308 is one damn fine gun.
02-19-2015 08:55 AM
H2OMAN
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Originally Posted by Cavadus View Post

I started out with the base 18" para from DS Arms. I added the VLTOR CASV handguard system, extended fire selector lever, Slocat's FSE checkered magazine release, folding charging handle, DSA railed top cover, and then I run Moses' polymer mags. The VLTOR handguard and poly mags shaved off a good chunk of weight.
Pictures?
02-17-2015 04:16 PM
Cavadus
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Originally Posted by merlinfire View Post
I bought a FAL once and hated the balance, was very front-heavy. Might consider getting one again though, if there was a good way to improve its balance. Do you have any suggestions?
Two things:

18" barrel
Paratrooper stock

This is the most desirable configuration for non-collectors.

There are a ton of fantastic updates for the FAL which really help to modernize it. If you get into FALs I highly recommend getting into FALfiles.com because there are members there who run machine shops for custom parts.

I started out with the base 18" para from DS Arms. I added the VLTOR CASV handguard system, extended fire selector lever, Slocat's FSE checkered magazine release, folding charging handle, DSA railed top cover, and then I run Moses' polymer mags. The VLTOR handguard and poly mags shaved off a good chunk of weight.

To top it all off a 'files member will be fabbing some ACR stock adapters for para FALs. I'm ready and itching to get one bad but they won't be available for a few months.
02-14-2015 10:14 PM
ballfroguy Saiga 308. AK reliability with a great round.
02-14-2015 10:13 PM
strat23

I have most of the .308 MBR's out there, and I recommend the FAL over most of them - especially at your price range. They run great, good reliability, good accuracy - if that was the only rifle you had, you would be good to go...
02-13-2015 08:17 AM
H2OMAN
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Originally Posted by Hick Industries View Post
Nice cat, but please tell me more about the rifle, the stock, and the optics.
Maggie is a feral feline kitten that adopted me.

The rifle is a CQB-16 built by Smith Enterprise on a forged Poly Tech receiver that I supplied. It's a very upscale SOCOM length M14. The stock is the light weight Blackfeather RS that M14EBR.US imports into the US from Canada. It is fitted with the optional LSP. The optic sitting on the Long Sight Plane rail is a Vortex Razor HD Gen II 1-6x24. TROY folding battle sights are also attached to the rail.
02-12-2015 11:13 PM
Hick Industries
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Originally Posted by H2OMAN View Post
The best value in 308 semi-auto rifles for my money continues to be the M14 pattern rifle.

Nice cat, but please tell me more about the rifle, the stock, and the optics.
02-12-2015 10:02 PM
HorseSoldier Roller locks are more sensitive to ammo variation than gas systems.
02-12-2015 12:52 PM
sardog
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Originally Posted by Corvette View Post
I own a German made H&K 91and 2 FN 's ,one is a STG58 and the other is a HB Israel and I have use both and I my opinion the HK is more accurate and dependable and can be scoped .A friend of mine has a Century arms Cetme and the German HK claw mount will not fit on his rifle, HK's gas system is also far above the FN rifle so you can change ammo and not have to reset the gas, years ago I had a FN 49 and it had the same gas system as the FAL . I also use a Armalite AR10 and a very early Springfield M1A sn is 4 numbers
I don't believe the HK has a gas system other than to assist loosening the cartridge in the chamber.
02-12-2015 10:14 AM
mefunkymxw personnally i like the kel tec RFB, i have a gen1... it is more well balanced then any other .308 semi i have, which includes a FAL, PTR and an M1A
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