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09-16-2019 07:35 AM
larrykbrown my shooting rifle is not working
09-07-2019 01:33 PM
fragout
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Originally Posted by Deepins View Post
I went out shooting yesterday with a couple of other friends and shot different
kinds of rifles and a 308 win too. Well the 308 kicked less than my 7mm-08 well it has a muzzle break which my girlfriend had put on her rifle. well we shot out to 400 yards and it was amazing to shoot that far and hit the target she has little lines under her cross hairs and well they were very nice in hitting the steel targets at the different ranges so she has a hearing aid that stops the bang of the gun and helps to hear things better. So I liked her rifle I may use it instead of this 7mm08 rifle and maybe get one like hers. For hunting deer and elk this season.
So I guess I am asking your opinion as to the bigger bullet of the 308 win.
Hers is 180 gr and easier to shoot.
Your honest thoughts about this.
Thank you
Have the same reaction when comparing felt recoil with a 6.8 lbs bolt action rifle in 243 vs an 8.5 lbs semiauto rifle in 308. Not much difference in felt recoil.

As to your question regarding 308 180gr bullets:

If your specific rifle shoots them consistent, why not use them?

As for terminal effects, I have seen no evidence to support the notion that they are any better vs 165/ 168 gr bullets. Only difference = bullet construction from my experience. ( Provided shot placement was on point)

Note: I hunt year around, and dump 5 to 7 hogs here a week using 308win and an 18.5in bbl semiauto. Also hunt other critters outa various areas of this country including Alaska.

There is nothing you can't take down with one shot out to 450y using a 308 in this hemisphere.

Have used several different loads/ bullets for hunting such as a home rolled load with the Sierra game king 165gr HPBT, and have taken truck loads of pigs with that load. ( Deer, antelope, elk, bear, moose, and bison.

My favorite " all around " load nowadays uses the Barnes 168gr TTSX bullet.
( Factory version pictured below)

Note: All critters in my first post here taken while using rifle in 2nd pic. 165gr sgk and 168gr ttsx. My 12year old grand daughter has no problems placing pills with that same rifle.

11B
09-06-2019 08:35 PM
Observer If you are a marksman the 257 Roberts is a very, very fine rifle. As is the 7mm Mauser, and 7mm-08.
08-19-2019 02:07 PM
JLW1974 Have used both 168gr and 175gr projectiles in a 308win on elk. Berger Hunting VLD. The elk still ended up dead as long as my shot placement was true. All my shots were less than 350-yards (most were around 120-yards), do keep that in mind.
08-19-2019 11:18 AM
Area Man
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Originally Posted by Deepins View Post
I went out shooting yesterday with a couple of other friends and shot different
kinds of rifles and a 308 win too. Well the 308 kicked less than my 7mm-08 well it has a muzzle break which my girlfriend had put on her rifle. well we shot out to 400 yards and it was amazing to shoot that far and hit the target she has little lines under her cross hairs and well they were very nice in hitting the steel targets at the different ranges so she has a hearing aid that stops the bang of the gun and helps to hear things better. So I liked her rifle I may use it instead of this 7mm08 rifle and maybe get one like hers. For hunting deer and elk this season.
So I guess I am asking your opinion as to the bigger bullet of the 308 win.
Hers is 180 gr and easier to shoot.
Your honest thoughts about this.
Thank you
For deer, anything over 130 gr would be satisfactory. For elk, 180 gr would be my minimum (in .30 cal)

Same can be said for your 7mm-08, but I have yet to find 7mm bullets bigger than 175 gr.

And if you like the muzzle brake on your girlfriend's rifle, you'd be just as happy with one on yoru 7mm-08. If you get a .308 and don't have the muzzle brake, you'll dislike it more than your 7mm-08.

Finally, shoot what makes you happy.
08-18-2019 08:12 PM
Flinter Another vote for the 7mm-08.

It's a great, light recoiling round.
08-18-2019 07:44 PM
7.5x55 Swiss Either will work. If you have a threaded barrel you could get the same muzzle brake if you liked how it reduced recoil. More guns are never bad though.
08-18-2019 06:25 PM
TENNGRIZZ IMHO either one is a good choice. S/FI! Main thing is being comfortable while shooting.
08-18-2019 06:02 PM
Deepins I went out shooting yesterday with a couple of other friends and shot different
kinds of rifles and a 308 win too. Well the 308 kicked less than my 7mm-08 well it has a muzzle break which my girlfriend had put on her rifle. well we shot out to 400 yards and it was amazing to shoot that far and hit the target she has little lines under her cross hairs and well they were very nice in hitting the steel targets at the different ranges so she has a hearing aid that stops the bang of the gun and helps to hear things better. So I liked her rifle I may use it instead of this 7mm08 rifle and maybe get one like hers. For hunting deer and elk this season.
So I guess I am asking your opinion as to the bigger bullet of the 308 win.
Hers is 180 gr and easier to shoot.
Your honest thoughts about this.
Thank you
07-03-2019 11:03 AM
iyaayas Legally I think your ok. I wasn't sure so I checked and it looks like most States the minimum legal caliber is .24 for elk.

I also found that while not extremely popular it has been used quite successfully. So as long as your confident in your abilities.....as you will. Good luck, be safe.
07-03-2019 10:51 AM
iyaayas I mean no offense to anyone who feels different. This is my opinion and I'm only saying what's right for me and why.

Just because you can kill a thing with something doesn't necessarily mean it's a good or ethical choice. I mean, I could kill elk or moose with a .22, doesn't mean that's the only thing to consider.

I was taught a certain way and what holds true for me isn't always the case for everyone, and that's ok.

However, imo the .257 Roberts is most certainly not something I would ever consider for a large boned critter like elk. Never hunted elk, but I have moose and there's something to be said for having the right tools for the job. Dunno about elk but moose are so tough they often require a second shot regardless of where you put the first one, regardless of caliber.

I've seen the evidence, mostly on large whitetails, of both poor shooting and underpowered rounds leaving survivable yet horrific wounds.

Most common is jack asses trying head shots at excessive ranges with .223's. Seen many a starving deer with it's jaw blown off due to that disgusting practice.

I feel as a hunter that I have an obligation to kill clean. That's shot placement AND the right tools. Others have stated otherwise and perhaps it's because I've never hunted elk myself but I know for sure I wouldn't try it on moose.

I do know that a typical shot at elk is a much longer shot that what you find in moose habitat so there's that to consider as well.

I'd go with a .30 Cal personally. Possibly a .270.
06-30-2019 02:36 PM
Deepins
Many thanks for your loads

I wish to say thank you for the all the kind help.
I am heading out to the range today to shoot some of your information that you have
so kindly shared and sent to me.
Dee
06-27-2019 07:50 PM
Taxed in Maine As a 30 year Reloader, if I were making you a deer/elk load for your 7mm08, the first bullet I would try is the Barnes 140gr TSX.
04-29-2019 08:50 AM
Bishopj I would recommend a 7mm08 it has a low recoil not very loud shoots flat 140 grain bullet and will take any animal in North America
03-23-2019 05:07 PM
ajole
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Originally Posted by Deepins View Post
I wish to thank so many for all the information shared. I have looked at all the views and I am going with the 7mm-08 rifle.
Looked at several different models and manufacturers rifles and getting a Tikka
very smooth action and shouldered very well.
Is there a good deer load bullet and an elk load that works for you if you reload your bullets.
My neighbor will help me to reload my bullets and prep the brass.
Thank you so much
Dee
There are some decent commercial loads, like the 140 grain Nosler ETip or Accubond, but you can buy the bullets and load your own to save some money and fine tune to your rifle.

Thereís a LOT of loads out there if you search, but in the end, you have to load a few and see how your gun handles them.

Is your Tikka a 1:9 twist? If so, donít be afraid to try 150 or heavier bullets. Just donít push them too fast, and recoil will stay mild.
03-23-2019 05:04 PM
hatchet jack Deepins I think you made an excellent choice. I hope you don't sell your 257 Roberts though. Thats a really good round and somewhat hard to find now.

I have a 7-08 because for years my most used deer rifle was a custom built 7x57 Mauser. I have killed most of my deer with that rifle. I ran across a Remington model 7 in 7-08 at the gunshow. The old magazine writer Clay Harvey was always beating the drum for that rifle and cartridge combo so I had to have it.

It has not disappointed me at all. I loaded some 120gr bullets for a 15YO girl to use on a youth hunt at school. So far she has killed 4 deer with 4 shots using that gun. That was a light load for a 5'2" tall young woman. I have used 140gr bullets for deer. For elk I would try some 150-175gr bullets. Of course get the premium bullets. I did kill one of my elk with nothing more than a Sierra 175gr Pro Hunter using an 8mm Mauser and the bullet held together just fine. So maybe a premium bullet isn't needed but they are about the cheapest part of the hunt so worth the extra cost.

If get an elk be sure and post some pictures. We like pictures.
03-23-2019 03:25 PM
Fepony I am considering a 22-250 for varmints.
03-22-2019 07:35 PM
livinn59801 I would have suggested the 6.5 or the 7mm-08. I think you made a good choice with the Tikka
03-22-2019 06:50 PM
Deepins I wish to thank so many for all the information shared. I have looked at all the views and I am going with the 7mm-08 rifle.
Looked at several different models and manufacturers rifles and getting a Tikka
very smooth action and shouldered very well.
Is there a good deer load bullet and an elk load that works for you if you reload your bullets.
My neighbor will help me to reload my bullets and prep the brass.
Thank you so much
Dee
03-15-2019 11:42 PM
heldfast What the 308 has over the 7mm-08 is availability. But what the 7mm-08 has over the 308 is everything else, to include long range repeatable accuracy, reduced recoil, and great heavy bullets loads. And its not like 7mm-08 is scarce - thanks to the gun rags kids and women all over the US are using it every season, which means good rifles and ammo available for the hunting crowd.

Here's some load data comparison of 7mm-08 to factory long and magnum loads.

http://sed88.tripod.com/rem7/compare.html

And a bull elk taken at 425 yds by a 12yo girl with a 7mm-08 and a 168 bullet.
https://www.longrangehunting.com/thr...7mm-08.209096/
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