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08-05-2019 04:35 PM
Atticus I'm glad you feel your kids have a right to have the same upbringing. That's basically what you promise when your child is baptized. If there's another catholic church near you I'd recommend you go there. My wife and I visited about 4 of them before our son and a real miracle ending up helping us choose the one we're at now (since 2010). It turned out to be the one nearest to us. Maybe you're already planning to do this, but If you really want to raise your kids in the Faith, it's important that they see you in church. Only other thing I'll add is that I am a firm believer that our children are a big part of our salvation. My son is the reason my wife and I returned to church, and he has a special connection which has helped evangelize the rest of the family.
08-05-2019 04:20 PM
FerFAL
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FerFAL, Thanks for posting! If you don't mind my asking, do you take your kids to church?
No, not really. Used to but its been a while. The priest we had in our local Church, great guy, moved back to his town to care of his folks. The new guy just doesnt do it for us and again, I'm not much of a believer lately, nor is my wife.
08-05-2019 04:19 PM
Atticus
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Can't say I'm even a luke warm Catholic these days. Honestly I dont have much faith lately and if you ask me now, nope, I dont believe in God at the moment, so cultural Catholic will have to do for now. Still I do believe that my kids have a right to the same upbringing I had so I made sure they took First Communion and we're baptizing our baby soon. Whatever internal doubts I have they shoudlnt be burdened by them and if there's one thing I appreciate about the Catholicism is the open mindness and freedom, which you dont find in many of its shady, at times cult-like spinoffs. Heck, the Father in our Church, a guy about my same age, he told me about his own doubts and struggles, great guy to have a chat with.
FerFAL, Thanks for posting! If you don't mind my asking, do you take your kids to church?
08-05-2019 02:19 PM
FerFAL
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Unfortunately there are many luke warm Catholics who don't live their faith and are as you put it are culturally Catholics. Some of them end up leaving to become "born again Christians", but its because they never took the time to learn about our foundation, history and direct lineage and open themselves up to or during the sacraments.
Can't say I'm even a luke warm Catholic these days. Honestly I dont have much faith lately and if you ask me now, nope, I dont believe in God at the moment, so cultural Catholic will have to do for now. Still I do believe that my kids have a right to the same upbringing I had so I made sure they took First Communion and we're baptizing our baby soon. Whatever internal doubts I have they shoudlnt be burdened by them and if there's one thing I appreciate about the Catholicism is the open mindness and freedom, which you dont find in many of its shady, at times cult-like spinoffs. Heck, the Father in our Church, a guy about my same age, he told me about his own doubts and struggles, great guy to have a chat with.
08-05-2019 02:04 PM
Atticus I took my Mom to church on Sunday. She has been feeling better lately, but isn't up to driving. While we were there, I mentioned to Mom that when I visited St. John Cantius once, it felt like opening the door to the narthex was like opening the door to Oz in the film "The Wizard of Oz." That was when the world went from black and white to full color. Mom said it was like walking into the sunlight, and she said she feels that way whenever she comes to our humble church. Mom also has often said that she NEEDS to receive the Holy Eucharist. This is a sign of holiness. Saintly people sometimes describe a craving for the Holy Eucharist. Also, people who are very unholy - such as those committing evil acts, find that they cannot tolerate the Holy Eucharist. Betty Brennan described walking out of the church (when she was a witch) immediately after receiving communion, and throwing up outside every time. I have heard of other people who had a similar reaction. It's a real blessing bringing Mom to church.
07-24-2019 11:08 PM
Atticus I took an out of state trip last weekend to visit my sister. We had a really nice time together. My wife and son were with me too. My sister is not a Catholic. My family, as I've probably mentioned before, was Episcopalian and I converted with my wife back in 2011. Saturday, we were talking about where to go to church. I told her we could go to a Saturday afternoon Mass and sit with her at her church on Sunday morning - but could not receive. She decided that we should just go to our church on Sunday, and she would probably stay home. Later that evening, I got a text from her saying she decided to come with us. So for the first time, my sister sat with us through a Roman Catholic Mass. She noticed that my son was happy through the whole Mass, and that he seemed very calm during the Holy Eucharist. Perhaps something has begun.
06-08-2019 12:18 PM
JenFred Cabinetmaker, I feel like it is a divine appointment for you to be working in their home! May their hearts turn back to their upbringing, to God, to their church! May their hearts be softened to hear God's drawing of them....and may they obey. And may you be used of God to love and speak Truth during this time.
06-08-2019 09:37 AM
Bluesman60 Unfortunately there are many luke warm Catholics who don't live their faith and are as you put it are culturally Catholics. Some of them end up leaving to become "born again Christians", but its because they never took the time to learn about our foundation, history and direct lineage and open themselves up to or during the sacraments.
06-08-2019 09:35 AM
Cabinet Maker
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During that time, I also had 4 other catholics in my group. Most of them really downplayed their faith. It was like they were culterally catholic, but not religiously. They probably found me a little hard to take sometimes.
Know what you mean. I'm remodeling a kitchen right now for a family, and early on, the Mrs. told me she was Catholic. I was VERY happy as you can imagine. Just yesterday, I told her I needed to leave early to make it back in time for First Friday Mass. In the ensuing conversation, she mentions that they spend some spiritual time on Sundays at home. Not attending Mass.

A gentle reminder then to the importance and requirement of Sunday Mass was greeted with a sheepish look. Sigh. So many folks call themselves Catholic, yet don't follow teaching.

I'm going to continue our conversation...
06-08-2019 01:51 AM
Atticus During that time, I also had 4 other catholics in my group. Most of them really downplayed their faith. It was like they were culterally catholic, but not religiously. They probably found me a little hard to take sometimes.
06-08-2019 01:49 AM
Atticus Yes, I am lucky. A couple of years back, I spent four years working for a manager who was a real hard case. She was a lawyer and CPA, and I believe an atheist. She was raised catholic, but I think had rejected her faith. She had a very bad relationship with her dying father, and just seemed confused. She made life absolutely miserable for a few of us unfortunate enough to work for her. I feel like I've died and gone to a different place. Not quite Heaven, but far better than where I was. Hopefully I can retire in a few years and then maybe start my own business - where if I'm blessed with success and can hire, will be very gracious to my employees.
06-06-2019 10:32 AM
Cabinet Maker
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I'm now working in a different office of my "company." I moved there for a lot of reasons. Many of which have to do with getting more exercise, less stress, better ability to concentrate, etc. An added benefit, is that I am now working on the same floor with two of my favorite former managers. Both are Christians. They are not loud about it, but if you know what to look for - you know. One of them is a devout Catholic, who helped me greatly years ago when I was going through a lot of struggles at work and with my Autistic son. She wears a rosary bracelet every day, which is how I found out that she was Catholic. We also have a lot of other things in common, especially the fact that she has a nephew who also suffers from Autism. So I am greatly comforted, not only by the benefits of my new surroundings, but also by the presence of at least one very devout, pious catholic who I can always go talk to. This person spends much of her vacation time going on religious pilgrimages. She always carries a rosary, and is always joyful. Wonderful lady. I'm very happy to know her, and to once again be in touch. God is good. All the time.
Wow, how lucky you are! Outside of Church, I know exactly two people who are RC...one works at a lumber store I frequent, and the other is a Rep for my door supplier. He goes to Church and brings his kids, but they are not baptized!
I'm working on him....
06-05-2019 11:15 PM
Bluesman60 Amen and Rock Steady Atticus !
06-05-2019 09:25 PM
Atticus I'm now working in a different office of my "company." I moved there for a lot of reasons. Many of which have to do with getting more exercise, less stress, better ability to concentrate, etc. An added benefit, is that I am now working on the same floor with two of my favorite former managers. Both are Christians. They are not loud about it, but if you know what to look for - you know. One of them is a devout Catholic, who helped me greatly years ago when I was going through a lot of struggles at work and with my Autistic son. She wears a rosary bracelet every day, which is how I found out that she was Catholic. We also have a lot of other things in common, especially the fact that she has a nephew who also suffers from Autism. So I am greatly comforted, not only by the benefits of my new surroundings, but also by the presence of at least one very devout, pious catholic who I can always go talk to. This person spends much of her vacation time going on religious pilgrimages. She always carries a rosary, and is always joyful. Wonderful lady. I'm very happy to know her, and to once again be in touch. God is good. All the time.
04-07-2019 08:42 AM
Henrykjr For devout Roman Catholics......Mysticism plays a very important role as it helps you to recognize God on a daily basis.

I love, love, love hanging around Holy, devout and well studied Roman Catholics.

Several months ago I was prayed over by a very Holy Catholic Priest while on a Family Tree retreat. I experienced for the first time the Spirit of Truth.......

After a 16 year search to look up my family tree on my fathers side and always hitting dead ends.....the Holy Spirit delivered the message to me as to where to look.....I was one of the last to be blessed at the end of the night.....10 minutes after being prayed over.....I went onto the internet.....and found a 3rd cousin that had never been there before......she had the geneology, pictures, history of my Father side of the family.

The messages keep coming as the puzzle gets completed.....truly amazing what God can do!

HK
04-06-2019 08:55 PM
James Clark
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One thing I will say after having spent the majority of my life in songs and a sermon churches is that the blessings and peace attained through orthodox (little o in this case) liturgical worship is profound. It is one thing to learn about God, it is quite another to experience him and worship him directly. That is something you cannot do effectively if you make everything up as you go along.
AA changed me so much that I stick with their method, for dear life really.

I have faith in a higher power of my understanding. That is Jesus and Mary and God.

Church never really sank in well or made sense before AA, when I was young. Now most sermons impact me and improve me, even if it's just a little.

I finally came to see that life is a beautiful gift. AA gave me everything. A beautiful family. A new and good career that I enjoy on most days, and I've held it to this day and progressed forward in it. Financial stability. A lack of mental turmoil. I used to have a constant anger inside me that was so intense I would lose control of it sometimes. It's gone now. I can shut it off immediately and easily. People sometimes tell me that I'm one of the calmest people they've ever seen.

When I went to my first meeting I was a mess. I was near death. I was just trying to work up the balls to put the pistol in my mouth. I was getting close. Building it up in my head and lowering my inhibitions with intoxicants at the same time. I was living in a motel. Collecting Employment Insurance that was about to run out and not even looking for work because I knew I was such a drunk I couldn't hold a job.

I'm a walking example that Jesus loves us and will forgive anything. As long as we honestly try.

God bless
04-06-2019 06:31 PM
Watchingtheweasels
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I finally have a measure of inner peace. I am blessed
One thing I will say after having spent the majority of my life in songs and a sermon churches is that the blessings and peace attained through orthodox (little o in this case) liturgical worship is profound. It is one thing to learn about God, it is quite another to experience him and worship him directly. That is something you cannot do effectively if you make everything up as you go along.
04-03-2019 08:51 PM
James Clark I wasn't drawn to Catholicism. I was dragged to it in the 80s. I let it leave my heart in the 90s and I remained away for 15 years ish.

I came back because of AA. I found Jesus again listening to a bunch of old drunks and all their personal miracles. It was profound.

Now I take comfort in understanding that God's Will is supreme and all is as it should be. I can't control everything. AA taught me that. I handle the little things and the rest is up to God.

I finally have a measure of inner peace. I am blessed.
03-31-2019 10:04 AM
Atticus
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Suffer not a witch to live.
Oh how I wish it was 1650
Burn baby burn.
Sounds mean?
Learn what they want to do to you
It's no wonder the Father's of the church said to flame them.
Nowadays we just convert them.

Here's (again) the testimony of Betty Brennan. She was raised Catholic, and then after a terrible family tragedy, she became a Satanist (witch). She is now a POWERFUL defender of the Catholic Church and its sacraments. The very things Satanists oppose. Here is her story (also in post #1) There are others.




And here's the website of Zachary King - a former Satanic priest, who also converted to the Catholic Faith http://allsaintsministry.org/Home.html
03-28-2019 04:12 PM
Atticus Lent

Lent is a season of the Church year. It is the season which immediately precedes the greatest festival of the Liturgical year, which is the Great Feast of Easter. Lent is a penitential season, and there are many things which Catholics traditionally do during Lent. It is a time of preparation for Easter, and a time for penance.

Catholics are expected to participate in the Sacrament of Reconciliation at least once every year. Many do this during Lent. My own parish just had a "communal" reconciliation event, where several priests were available, and they had a brief time before getting in line for confession when people spoke about how to examine your conscience in preparation to make a good confession.

Lent begins with Ash Wednesday, when people go to church to receive the sign of the cross on their forehead - imposed by the priest. The ash is made from burning the palm fronds saved from the prior year's celebration of Palm Sunday - the day when we remember Christ's triumphal entry into Jerusalem.

The ashes are a sign of humility.

During Lent many churches also have "Stations of the Cross." This is a prayer service - usually done on Friday nights in Lent, where there are readings corresponding to the different traditional "stations of the cross" which are the 14 events of Christ's passion from the time of his condemnation by Pontius Pilate, to when His body is laid in the tomb. Often, the people will follow the processional cross around the church from station to station as each of the readings and prayers are rendered. In Rome, there are a number of "station" churches, which were stops along the way.

Lent culminates in "Holy Week" which is the last week of the season. It actually begins on the Thursday before Easter, which is known as "Maundy Thursday". This is to commemorate the Last Supper, and Christ's washing of his Disciple's feet. There is a Mass, and the people receive communion, then the rest of the reserved sacrament is carried from the tabernacle to the rear of the church, and placed on an "altar of repose" while people watch through the night until the next morning. The altar is also stripped. It is a very moving service.

The next day, Friday, we commemorate "Good Friday." Once known as "Black Friday", Good Friday is the day we remember the Passion and death of Jesus. The service begins at 3pm - which is the time we believe Jesus died. Two or three "sacred ministers" (usually a priest and a deacon) enter the church, walk up to the altar and "prostrate" themselves in front of the altar (lie face down facing the altar with arms outspread). This often moves me to tears. There is no Eucharist on Good Friday, however the people still receive communion from elements which are in reserve (the reserved sacrament). Part of this service also is the veneration of the cross. The people come up and one at a time, either touch, or kiss the crucifix before returning to their seats.

Holy Saturday follows Good Friday. For observant Catholics, they may feel fairly lost and listless this day. It is a day for prayer and reflection, and nothing feels right until we go to Mass on the Vigil of Easter (later that night) or on Easter Sunday.

The Great Vigil of Easter. It is difficult to explain the joy and exultation which Catholics feel at the Vigil. The service starts outdoors at sunset. The priest kindles a fire and uses it to bless and light the Pascal Candle. Then, after several prayers, the candle is brought into the church, where all the faithful gathered light their own candles from the one fire until the entire church is lit only by the light of hundreds of candles. The candle is also used to bless the water in the baptismal font. The priest then reads the great proclamation of Easter.

The church is decorated with Easter Lilies. The brass is all freshly polished. The choir has new songs prepared. There is often a guest vocalist or a brass ensemble too. The priest wears white, which is the color of celebration. At the Vigil, we hear 10 readings from Holy Scripture, beginning with the creation and extending throughout the Bible - chronicling the record of God's saving acts in history. The Vigil is where traditionally, the new Christians are baptized, confirmed and receive their first Holy communion. Formerly baptized Christians baptized already in another denomination make a "profession of faith" to become Catholic. And Catholics who have been baptized but never confirmed - receive Confirmation this night.
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