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08-26-2018 05:47 AM
Aerindel Here in Western MT we've now broken our all time records for most days with no rain two years in a row. Luckily we didn't have the fire season this year that we did last year despite even drier conditions.
08-25-2018 07:13 PM
KLF I think I saw on news that this year's record is 63 days over +25C which is a damn lot, almost double than normal. Usually weather like that I consider too hot already, this year my personal record was when car temp gauge showed +38C while driving in city and I believe the whole July was officially around +30C, official measuring spots usually record little lower temps.

Combine that with almost no rain at all and you get forest fires and dead crops.

And I'm up here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/60th_parallel_north
08-25-2018 05:43 PM
Potawami II
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Originally Posted by Creek Walker View Post
Now this is interesting.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...ean-river.html

Looks like people marked stones when the water level was low indicating hard times.

Reminds me of the Japan Tsunami markers they found in the hills that indicated how far the water got to after past Tsunamis.
Good find. I’d be getting nervous over there.
08-24-2018 08:24 PM
Creek Walker Now this is interesting.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...ean-river.html

Looks like people marked stones when the water level was low indicating hard times.

Reminds me of the Japan Tsunami markers they found in the hills that indicated how far the water got to after past Tsunamis.

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Droughts across Europe has caused hidden messages carved on rocks to warn of 'hard times ahead' to reappear.

Known as 'hunger stones', they are reappearing in the Elbe River.

Over a dozen of the hunger stones, chosen to record low water levels, can now be seen in and near the northern Czech town of Decin near the German border.
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On other rivers, hunger stones go back to the 15th century, and inscriptions from 1417, 1473, 1616, 1654 and 1666 have been found.
08-22-2018 10:58 AM
Sneeky Here in MD we are getting lots and lots of rain. Aside from one period this summer where we went about 10 days without rain, I think it has rained at least every 3 days all summer long, often we get rain 3-4 days in a row.

But I recall the years when we couldn't get appreciable rain for weeks on end and crops withered in the fields.

But on average we get an average amount of rainfall.....
08-22-2018 10:46 AM
Sailorsam Denmark farmers financial trouble

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-a...-idUSKCN1L70TR

***On its own, the impact of the drought is seen at around 6 billion crowns, it added. At the beginning of the year, SEGES forecast a small profit for the sector.

“There is no doubt the drought has impacted so many farmers, that there will be more bankruptcies,” SEGES economist Klaus Kaiser told Reuters, declining to give an estimate.

Denmark’s harvest of wheat, barley and rye could fall by about 40 percent from previous years, the lobby group has previously forecast.

To view a map on European drought, click tmsnrt.rs/2M4kIvA ***

Sweden (reindeer)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-change-arctic

***Sweden’s indigenous Sami reindeer herders are demanding state aid to help them cope with the impact of this summer’s unprecedented drought and wildfires, saying their future is at risk as global warming changes the environment in the far north.

The Swedish government this week announced five major investigations aimed at preparing the country for the kind of extreme heatwave it experienced in July, when temperatures exceeded 30C (86F) and .

But it has yet to come up with any concrete measures for the country’s 4,600 Sami reindeer owners – the only people authorised to herd reindeer in Sweden – and their 250,000 semi-domesticated animals, raised for their meat, pelts and antlers.***
08-17-2018 10:06 PM
Im RIght Would seem logical using the climate change theorists science that

warmer temperatures = more energy = more evaporation = moisture in the air = more rain... Seems like a flawed theory...
08-14-2018 11:33 AM
aramchek It's been very dry here in Minnesota this summer. I don't even think we've had even a single severe storm in my area. Worse, our skies are hazy from Canadian wildfires 1,500 miles away (British Columbia) and I think the lack of rain is causing that stuff to hang up there longer than usual, so they've issued air quality alerts.

Regional/global system are fascinating in the modern age, though I understand there are still people (funded by Koch and Adelson, probably) who doubt GPS, remote sensing, and satellite imagery. All nonsense. And you can't see any of it from space -- it'll all a clever PhotoShop job. Wait, PhotoShop is fake also, must be air-brushing.
08-13-2018 03:02 PM
Sailorsam
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Originally Posted by Potawami II View Post
I could be wrong but are you saying that because we are having droughts in areas that throughout recorded history are drought prone it is being caused by global warming?
any little deviation in weather will be attributed to Global Warming by the fearmongers.

impossible to say if its global warming or regular cycle.

lots of people say it depends on the solar.
08-13-2018 11:39 AM
PalmettoTree Global precipitation remains within normal variation. When there is less than overage one place there is above average another.

Mother Nature works that way; alway has and always will.
08-13-2018 07:10 AM
HomeDefense We went the first 7 months of this year with less than 1 inch of rain.

We are in a 30-year drought here in Arizona. But that is why they call this a desert.

We have been getting rain this week at night, but this is the first real rain we have had thus far in 2018. Prior to this, we were all blowing dust bubbles.

Remember that Saudi Arabia was once a lush jungle. Climate changes, with or without the presence of people. Always has, always will.
08-13-2018 06:54 AM
Aerindel 40 continuous days here with no recorded rainfall.

Last year was the record at 46

No rain predicted in the next week.
08-13-2018 06:10 AM
franklin
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Originally Posted by Major Mjolnir View Post
Nope. Good year to be growing soybeans and corn in the U.S.
A biology professor in the Ag department at PSU once told me that the perfect growing conditions for corn from June through August was a half inch of rain every third day with 85 to 90 deg sunshine the other two. Just about what we are getting in the NE this year.

As long as we get some dry weather during harvest time it will be a bumper crop this year.
08-12-2018 11:03 PM
Kansas Terri
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Originally Posted by barsik View Post
could you please elaborate on your phrase"weather has been positively odd" up here in Alberta crops are mostly OK, but I am seeing a lot of fields with what looks like herbicide resistant weeds. (see sprayer tracks but fields have weeds, and some are quite nasty.)
To start with, we got some VERY late snow falls and 3 weeks later it was in the upper 80's. That is weird where I live

THEN during July the nights were in the 70's and the days were in the upper 90's, and that is usually August weather.

Now that it *IS* august, most nights are cool and this time of year the nights are usually hot.

We are also in a drought, but that happens every few years.

It is true that every year has different weather, but the weather usualy falls in a certain range, and this year it has not.
08-12-2018 08:27 PM
PalmettoTree
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could you please elaborate on your phrase"weather has been positively odd" up here in Alberta crops are mostly OK, but I am seeing a lot of fields with what looks like herbicide resistant weeds. (see sprayer tracks but fields have weeds, and some are quite nasty.)
I put myself through college in the late 60's early 70's working for a fertilizer company. I have never farmed but always been around farm talk. There is no year the same weather-wise or otherwise.
08-12-2018 07:55 PM
barsik
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Originally Posted by Kansas Terri View Post
The wheat harvest here in Kansas has been a little bit below average, but that is not bad because the weather has been positively odd.

This year I am harvesting 5 mixing bowls of grapes and I usually get just one. However my green beans, which are usually VERY reliable, have totally failed. I am blaming the weather for that


could you please elaborate on your phrase"weather has been positively odd" up here in Alberta crops are mostly OK, but I am seeing a lot of fields with what looks like herbicide resistant weeds. (see sprayer tracks but fields have weeds, and some are quite nasty.)
08-12-2018 02:19 PM
Kansas Terri The wheat harvest here in Kansas has been a little bit below average, but that is not bad because the weather has been positively odd.

This year I am harvesting 5 mixing bowls of grapes and I usually get just one. However my green beans, which are usually VERY reliable, have totally failed. I am blaming the weather for that
08-12-2018 12:50 PM
Potawami II
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Originally Posted by Sailorsam View Post
drought in Australia affecting farmers

https://phys.org/news/2018-08-despai...n-farmers.html

***
A crippling drought is ravaging vast tracts of Australia's pastoral heartlands, decimating herds and putting desperate farmers under intense financial and emotional strain, with little relief in sight.

While the country is no stranger to "big drys" and its people have long had a reputation as resilient, the extreme conditions across swathes of Australia's east are the worst in more than 50 years.

A smattering of rain earlier this week did little to ease one of the driest starts to the year on record, turning pastures to dust and destroying huge areas of grazing and crop lands.

With no feed, farmers have been forced to ship in grain or hay from other parts of the country to keep sheep and cattle alive, spending thousands of extra dollars a week just to stay afloat.

Some exhausted graziers spend hours each day hand-feeding their stock because the ground is too dry for grass to grow. Others have been forced to shoot starving cattle.
***

Europe

https://weather.com/news/news/2018-0...europe-farmers

***The damage is visible from space: Farm fields in Europe that were lush and green a month ago are now patches of dusty barren dirt.

In some places, more than half the harvest could be lost as farmers in a dozen or so countries deal with a once-in-a-generation drought and devastating heatwave, NBC News reports.

“I have never seen this type of hot and dry weather, and I’ve been farming over 30 years,” said Max Schulman.

Schulman, whose farm is about 35 miles from Helsinki, Finland, said only 3 inches of rain has fallen there since the end of April. He sees 10 to 14 inches most years.

The drought-plagued area stretches from Ireland and the United Kingdom through Norway, Sweden and Finland in the north, and from parts of France and Germany through Poland and into the Baltic states further south.
***

USA Missouri
https://www.abc17news.com/weather/ex...ouri/779506111

USA Michigan
https://www.mlive.com/weather/index...._in_grips.html

USA Oregon
https://www.statesmanjournal.com/sto...lex/883522002/

and as usual the US southwest

very sad. wonder if food prices will go up (probably) and how much.
I could be wrong but are you saying that because we are having droughts in areas that throughout recorded history are drought prone it is being caused by global warming?
08-12-2018 12:24 PM
tiberius http://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/
08-11-2018 05:36 PM
Major Mjolnir
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Originally Posted by Sailorsam View Post
...Argentina’s corn harvest may be curbed to 21.4 million metric tons in the year starting March, from a record 23 million tons a year earlier, Liliana Balbi, an economist at the United Nations Food & Agriculture Organization, said Jan. 18.

Corn growers in Brazil, the world’s third-largest producer, will harvest less than previously forecast after a 13-week drought cut output in the country’s top growing region.***

the US East/Southeast continue to get lots of rain

is there such a thing as 'global drought'?
Nope. Good year to be growing soybeans and corn in the U.S.

"USDA Forecasts Record High Corn Yield and Soybean Production for 2018
WASHINGTON, August 10, 2018 – U.S. farmers are expected to produce a record-high soybean crop this year, according to the Crop Production report issued today by the USDA’s National Agricultural Statistics Service. Up 4 percent from 2017, soybean production is forecast at record high 4.59 billion bushels, while corn growers are expected to decrease their production slightly from last year, forecast at 14.6 billion bushels. ... ...Average corn yield is forecast at 178.4 bushels per acre, up 1.8 bushels from last year. If realized, this will be the highest yield on record for the United States." https://www.nass.usda.gov/Newsroom/2018/08-10-2018.php
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