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04-06-2020 07:52 AM
labellavita
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Originally Posted by Marjorie View Post
Dd and her boyfriend have been arguing about being prepared.

We've told her that if he doesn't see the need after this, he's too stupid for her and she needs to move on.

She told me today that when she holds up NOW as an example of why we need to be prepared, his response is "this is a once in a lifetime event. It will never happen again."

Normalcy bias.
I've told my kids that when they date, they need to think along those lines too, "Is this the kind of person that will have my back WTSHTF?" Will they crumble under pressure? Can they do things? Are they willing to learn to do things? IT MATTERS.
04-05-2020 09:12 AM
uriel We are already moving to a cashless society. Walmart lets you shop online but do not accept cash or checks. Whatever you can't get locally you have to order online with a credit card. So whatever cash you have at home is just colored paper, because cash can pass the virus if you don't know where it came from and no one wants to take that risk.

We are already moving to a non-traveling society, due to lockdowns, stay at home orders, etc. Who wants to get on a bus or a plane or god forbid a cruise ship?

What worries me is disaster fatigue. A year from now this may be over, its killed as many people as its going to kill, then it mutates into something like the flu, goes dormant for two years, then comes back with a vengence. Maybe more virulent than before. But it doesn't last long, giving us false hope, then hits us again a year later. Our ability to endure multiple and more frequent events will weaken us in ways we can't fathom today. How many disaster events can we as a nation take until our ability to handle a crisis is compromised? Hopefully this happens to our enemies first.

We have a short attention span and our first reaction is denial because we really aren't that smart. Shame that we don't learn from history. We could have been ahead in this but we didn't have the will.
04-05-2020 08:51 AM
16ozs I feel that right after all this ends some people that started prepping due to this virus may continue for awhile but think that you might could catch some great buys in yard sales down the road from others. I do know several people that have stated that they never want to get caught "with their pants down" again. As for me when I go to the store I will continue to buy in bulk. Sam's and Aldi's are the best for this especially since the checkers don't seem to care how much you buy at a time. Actually had a checker at Brookshires ask me why I was buying so much of XYZ and got a blank look back when I said it was at a good price and I did not want to run out.
04-05-2020 08:23 AM
WinterPrepper I think your prepping future will depend on where you are located. However, in the end, people will get lazy and go back to the way things were.

I think this even highlights the importance of prepping for your health, your finances, your mental health, and your ability to adapt to the situation at hand. It's nice to have 100 lbs of canned goods, but if you are 60 lbs overweight and puffing away on cigarettes, you probably have other problems awaiting you in the future.
04-05-2020 03:37 AM
Camelfilter
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Originally Posted by Faultyphoenix View Post
On a personal level only. After this I will be a little less obvious when I shop for food. I had the fortunate timing to get back into prepping just before all this happened.
When I shopped I would buy by the case. Would leave cases in the cart and put 1 can up an say "12 of these" or "24 of these" to the checker. I would have 20 something year olds and others rolling their eyes and scoffing. I don't want that attention now.
When I ordered water barrels. Big stack of large boxes on the front porch.
Opsec when shopping now.
Depends where you live too. Out here shopping by the case/bulk etc seems far more normal.
04-05-2020 01:39 AM
Faultyphoenix On a personal level only. After this I will be a little less obvious when I shop for food. I had the fortunate timing to get back into prepping just before all this happened.
When I shopped I would buy by the case. Would leave cases in the cart and put 1 can up an say "12 of these" or "24 of these" to the checker. I would have 20 something year olds and others rolling their eyes and scoffing. I don't want that attention now.
When I ordered water barrels. Big stack of large boxes on the front porch.
Opsec when shopping now.
04-05-2020 12:45 AM
ForumSurvivalist
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Originally Posted by Marjorie View Post
Dd and her boyfriend have been arguing about being prepared.

We've told her that if he doesn't see the need after this, he's too stupid for her and she needs to move on.

She told me today that when she holds up NOW as an example of why we need to be prepared, his response is "this is a once in a lifetime event. It will never happen again."

Normalcy bias.
In the last 30 years it has happened at least 4 to 5 times, and each time it could have been this bad. And it may not be 100 years before we get hit again.
04-04-2020 11:52 PM
Joesixpack It pays to be prepared ahead of time.
04-04-2020 11:23 PM
greencandy
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Originally Posted by Ole Grunt View Post
Donít know what the rest of the world will do, but for me personally, it has pushed my prepping into overdrive in a some ways and changed my course in others. Iíve grown a lot of my own vegetables for years, and hunted for meat, but not really enough to do much more than barely sustain my family if needed. It has mostly just been nice to have some fresh veggies from the garden in the Summer and a few jars of canned beans in the winter to supplement what we buy at the grocery. I am now looking at it from a more long term and fully self sufficient approach. I would like to be able to feed my family and then some without having to go to the grocery. I am not there yet, so for me, the virus has at least given me new, or more clearly defined goals. Having a truckload of canned goods and freeze dried foods is nice for the short term, but Iím now more concerned about the long game. Even if this isnít the event that shuts the economy down and causes a societal collapse, the next one might be. If it never happens in my lifetime, I will have at least saved a lot of money on groceries. Money that I might be able to leave to my kids instead of giving it to the jolly Green giant and the pillsbury doughboy.
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I really appreciate your perspective.
You are exactly right.
04-04-2020 11:05 PM
greencandy
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Originally Posted by brucearmstrong65 View Post
I'm less optimistic than most. I think entities at all levels of government will try to punish, if not outright criminalize, preppers. Of course, they won't say they're outlawing prepping. Instead, it'll be outlawing stockpiling or hoarding beyond one's "personal needs," with government deciding what "personal needs" are.
This is a good reason to make as many needs as possible come from self-sustainable resources, like gardening, chickens, quail or rabbits, etc. Even in urban/suburban areas there are probably many ways to be more self sufficient, if you get creative.

What if, right now, you found out that you could never go out and buy a single other thing, ever again?

What would you wish you had remembered to get, the last time you went out?

What would you be the most glad you do already have?

What would you do next and in the near future, to ensure you and your family would have the best chances of surviving and thriving?
04-02-2020 07:40 PM
labellavita Read that the panic buying has slowed down somewhat. Now, is that due to people calming down or running out of money? Will the rush start up again once the govt checks start being deposited? I say get what you can, as much as you can, while you can. There are other issues going on right now too, like with agriculture, so I really am not that confident yet that things will return to normal. For the 10 million laid off, their SHTF moment is already here. I wish it would return to normal, I'm just not as ready as I'd want to be, I could use the break.

P.S. I also wonder what laws will they try to change because of this... Homeschooling for example. Homeschoolers have been going along just fine, Harvard and other universities even pursue homeschooled kids, now Harvard is hosting a "homeschooling needs more regulation" meeting and of course none of the panelists actually know anything about homeschooling, so it isn't a real intellectual discussion, but I digress... Now we have how many millions of "homeschoolers" added to the mix instantly, "homeschoolers" who have no clue, don't want to do it, are stressed, etc, and are NOT truly homeschooling. Because I do not trust TPTB, I can totally see homeschooling being blamed for these struggling students. Why let a power grab go to waste.
04-02-2020 06:41 PM
brucearmstrong65 I'm less optimistic than most. I think entities at all levels of government will try to punish, if not outright criminalize, preppers. Of course, they won't say they're outlawing prepping. Instead, it'll be outlawing stockpiling or hoarding beyond one's "personal needs," with government deciding what "personal needs" are.
03-31-2020 07:32 PM
slackercruster
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Originally Posted by Cuteandfuzzybunnies View Post
Most people will not prep. But more will than would have if this had not happened.

I think the biggest changes to society will actually be in institutional , corporate and government preparedness. I think ventilators are going to be stocked up , as well as other medical supplies. We may see legal changes that make it likely
To source parts for medical devices domestically

I think people growing up now , my children for example , will be more likely to prep than the previous generations even if they live in cities.

I think more people in NYC will have food storage. After this and sandy they have to be rethinking minimalist lifestyles.

Yes, they like experience over stuff. Packs the planes like sushi, go take your selfie, then on to the next 'experience.'
03-31-2020 07:29 PM
slackercruster
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Originally Posted by USNAWSRET View Post
Our parents and grandparents were preppers, long before the word itself.

They learned that in order to survive, they had to grow their own veggies and can them, barter with neighbors, and learned to cook anything with next to nothing.

My prediction is that a large number of people will learn these all-but-extinct skills and will put them in practice going forward.

-jack
Yep...too bad we can't go back in time to learn from them.
03-31-2020 06:56 PM
Cuteandfuzzybunnies Most people will not prep. But more will than would have if this had not happened.

I think the biggest changes to society will actually be in institutional , corporate and government preparedness. I think ventilators are going to be stocked up , as well as other medical supplies. We may see legal changes that make it likely
To source parts for medical devices domestically

I think people growing up now , my children for example , will be more likely to prep than the previous generations even if they live in cities.

I think more people in NYC will have food storage. After this and sandy they have to be rethinking minimalist lifestyles.
03-31-2020 06:45 PM
Marjorie Dd and her boyfriend have been arguing about being prepared.

We've told her that if he doesn't see the need after this, he's too stupid for her and she needs to move on.

She told me today that when she holds up NOW as an example of why we need to be prepared, his response is "this is a once in a lifetime event. It will never happen again."

Normalcy bias.
03-31-2020 06:35 PM
Ghost863
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Originally Posted by Aceoky View Post
I think when this is "over" our entire way of thinking and life is going to be changed, even on here to some extent
well at least on here we have social distancing. But seriously, I believe you are right about that. if we ever get back to normal I think it will be years not months. But on the bright side, it will weed out the people on here that are here just to argue from those of us who truly want to be prepared for a disaster of any magnitude.
03-31-2020 06:32 PM
Ole Grunt Agreed Ace. Agreed.
03-31-2020 06:30 PM
Aceoky I think when this is "over" our entire way of thinking and life is going to be changed, even on here to some extent
03-31-2020 03:22 PM
Ole Grunt
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Originally Posted by PurpleKitty View Post
I know a guy only eats at Denny's. It is his whole social life. He was absolutely struck when he was banned from one Denny's for making inappropriate comments to a waitress, he had to go to another store.

He still tries to set up "sugar daddy" arrangements with the waitresses. He literally eats every meal at the Denny's. Complains about money being tight. Puts a lot of miles on his car going to/from.

Does not buy any groceries because "If I have preps I will just eat them, I cannot control myself around food". I told him get LTS preps, he won't binge on them because they require prep. Nope, wouldn't do it.

Called the other day "To see how we were doing" - he knows we have preps - but the plumber was there and we cut him off.

I don't know how he is coping with no Dennys and very limited food in the store. He said once he could "live off the land" an over 70 obese man who can barely get to the mail box. I am a little worried about his dog as I doubt he prepped for that, but that is his problem, not mine.

We did buy a 30# bag of dog food for a guy we do consider a friend.

There is a lot wrong with anyone who eats at Dennyís on a regular basis. All this time, I thought you only ate at Dennyís when you were hammered drunk at 2am because you needed massive amounts of alcohol in your blood stream to kill the bacteria that would otherwise cause food poisoning. Stay away from that man Kitty, stay far away. He is clearly off his rocker and capable of unspeakable acts.
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