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03-08-2018 09:41 PM
Levant
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Originally Posted by fistfulladirt View Post
Hope so, for your benefit. I'm in telecom, and I know from experience, nine out of ten folks do not know the difference between duct placement, fiber placement or copper, right up to their abode.
I've worked in telecom from 1982 to 1999 when I went full time into IT as a network engineer until becoming a developer full time in 2004. Of course there was a couple years of overlap in each of those transitions. So I am pretty sure I know fiber when I see it. I've seen enough of it to stretch at least across the state of Oklahoma.

That said, having fiber to a POP that doesn't have the backbone to support it would be pointless and I don't yet know what they are building at their POP. They might have fiber connecting to an ISDN line for all I know.

But there's a university in town and, years ago, our state senator was very much on the payroll of his largest donor at the time, Bell South. In return, he demanded high speed Internet to town very early so there's been fiber backbone into town for 16 years. From that town, to another town 20 miles south, there is fiber between the two COs. That fiber runs across my property and there's even a repeater panel on my property. Even so, Bell South turned AT&T would never give me a T1 for my Internet access back when a T1 was something.

Anyway, the rural electric ran their own fiber overhead on their power poles and there's brand new fiber run from our pole to the house and tie-wrapped off to their demarc point, waiting for the inside crew to finish it up. Don't know how long that will be; haven't even heard if their POP is ready.
03-08-2018 05:04 AM
fistfulladirt
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Originally Posted by Levant View Post
The local rural electric cooperative is putting in fiber to the home. The fiber is already installed to the outside wall and we're just waiting for them to get to us to connect it inside. I'm really looking forward to that and hoping that they live up to their promise on service. We'll have fiber internet and TV in rural Oklahoma. Imagine that.
Hope so, for your benefit. I'm in telecom, and I know from experience, nine out of ten folks do not know the difference between duct placement, fiber placement or copper, right up to their abode.
03-06-2018 07:41 PM
The Old Coach
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Originally Posted by Levant View Post
Satellite latency isn't just milliseconds; it's about a quarter second round-trip to geosynchronous orbit. Then consider the way web pages are made today with 10 to 50 or more http requests per page by the time the html, javascript, and ad files are all requested. Depending on how the code is written, many of those are loaded sequentially. It's easy to see how a page might take several seconds to a minute or more, if it's not written with an understanding of satellite or similar issues..
THAT explains a lot. i.e. why Amazon and Walmart are slow - they load a metric ton of suchlike calls every page. All that advertising. Infuriating if I'm in a hurry. I generally go off to read SB or FreeRepublic, which load pretty fast. Drudge and Breitbart, too.
03-06-2018 06:36 PM
Levant Satellite latency isn't just milliseconds; it's about a quarter second round-trip to geosynchronous orbit. Then consider the way web pages are made today with 10 to 50 or more http requests per page by the time the html, javascript, and ad files are all requested. Depending on how the code is written, many of those are loaded sequentially. It's easy to see how a page might take several seconds to a minute or more, if it's not written with an understanding of satellite or similar issues.

I have satellite Internet service and I find that AT&T's web pages are among the worst. They're written, it seems, to perform very badly over Satellite.

The local rural electric cooperative is putting in fiber to the home. The fiber is already installed to the outside wall and we're just waiting for them to get to us to connect it inside. I'm really looking forward to that and hoping that they live up to their promise on service. We'll have fiber internet and TV in rural Oklahoma. Imagine that.
03-02-2018 02:38 PM
alv7722 Update, 3-5-18!! Discover finally ruled in my favor for the second time!! Kudos to Discover, they are a great company, Hughes Net can pound sand!!!!!!!!
01-26-2018 01:38 PM
alv7722
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Originally Posted by The Old Coach View Post
Look, how many times do we have to say it? If you expect to stream Netflix 24/7, HugheNet is not for you, even over Gen 5. If you signed up expecting that, you failed to do your due diligence, and only you are at fault. Don't blame other people for your shortcomings.
When they advertise 25Mbps and only provide 387Kbps, it is FRAUD!!!!! That is MY experience. Others may/might experience good results, I did not. I am sure if they had put me on ES-19, I most likely would have had good results, until it, too, became oversold!! That is why I am tipping others to make sure they will be installed on ES-19 if they are considering HughesNet!!

My homepage takes under 2 seconds to load with my crappy 1.5DSL. With HughesNet, it would take 12-16 seconds to load. Satellite latency is measured in milliseconds and does not account for that much lag!!

My being responsible for their FRAUD is a preposterous idea!
01-25-2018 04:35 PM
The Old Coach Look, how many times do we have to say it? If you expect to stream Netflix 24/7, HugheNet is not for you, even over Gen 5. If you signed up expecting that, you failed to do your due diligence, and only you are at fault. Don't blame other people for your shortcomings.
01-25-2018 03:41 PM
alv7722
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Originally Posted by The Old Coach View Post
Could we remember please that the original question was whether HughesNet is a viable system when you don't have DSL or fiber or cell signal. The answer is emphatically yes, and I'm living, breathing, trolling proof.
Just a reminder: If signing up for HughesNet make sure you get a GAURANTY that you are getting Gen 5 and that you will be installed on EchoStar 19. If you get installed on ES 17 you will be very disappointed, and HughesNet becomes a very dishonest company!! I evidently live in an area blacked out for ES 19, and they installed me on ES 17-during peak hours, it was worse than my crappy 1.5mbps DSL! They wanted $830 to get rid of them. Complained to BBB and got it down to $430, sent equipment back and ostensibly got it down to $230, though they have not officially credited me for the equipment. I had to dispute the $430 charge on my Discover Card twice, and finally got them blocked from my account due to fraud.

If you sign up for phone service along with internet, and you have to cancel, they will charge you an Early Termination Fee for both the phone, and the internet service!

I had agreed to pay the $230, once they issued the credit for the returned equipment, instead they billed the entire $430 again! Now, if I pay them, it will be by Postal Money Order, so they can't access any of my accounts! I have asked for arbitration, because I believe their actions amount to fraud!!

Talked to them on Jan 9, they agreed to send me a paper statement showing the $200 credit, and I would either pay the $230 by money order, or consult with a lawyer. Haven't heard anything back yet!!

Just my experience!!
01-22-2018 08:17 PM
Mr. Sockpuppet
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Originally Posted by NyteOwl View Post
Is EarthLink available in your area?
Probably not a good idea to utilize, given its link to the Church of Scientology, and history that includes Operation Snow White, instances of spying its documented enemies, as well as spying upon its own membership.
01-20-2018 07:16 AM
wldwsel
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Originally Posted by hawgy54 View Post
What kind of cost would be involved in a 50" tower? I believe 50" would meet the line of sight necessary from my home to nearest tower.
We have a tower 1.3 miles away - line of sight. We have 20% cell, at best for voice - it's virtually unusable unless I drive .5 miles. Text messages are fine because they don't need much of a signal at all.

Having a tower close doesn't meant anything if the transponders are oriented away from you. We're getting the back lobes off of our tower, and only then when they are transmitting full load.

I wouldn't spend the money for the tower until I know which way the tower is oriented. I'll bet, like ours, yours is oriented along the axis of the closest road, probably 90 degrees from your house. They don't tell you this stuff when they sell you the phone.

WW

shoot straight - stay safe
01-20-2018 07:09 AM
wldwsel
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Originally Posted by fistfulladirt View Post
Wireline and fiber just not gonna happen. If you're in the stix like me, cellular is the future.
We're so far out, cell service only works 20% of the time.

WW

shoot straight - stay safe
01-16-2018 11:38 AM
fistfulladirt
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Originally Posted by phil74501 View Post
Not according to AT&T's webpage.
I wouldn't go by the webpage, we have it here and the webpage says not available.
01-15-2018 04:12 PM
phil74501
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Originally Posted by The Old Coach View Post
We all know that Oklahoma has weather. So do we. What did y'all do for weather info before there was Internet?

What did y'all do for entertainment before gaming and Faceplant?

Could we remember please that the original question was whether HughesNet is a viable system when you don't have DSL or fiber or cell signal. The answer is emphatically yes, and I'm living, breathing, trolling proof.
Watched the tv stations out of Tulsa...which are also covering every other storm in the eastern half of the state of Oklahoma. I don't really care what the storms/tornadoes are doing 150 miles away from me...any more than the people 150 miles away care about what, stormwise, happens here. With the internet I can get on the weather services webpage and watch the storms that concern me, meaning the ones that are headed for me. In addition to all the other severe weather info that is only available on the weather services webpage...like percentage chance of actual severe storms, or percentage chance of a tornado warning being issued. Comprende?

What I choose to do for entertainment is my business. And I very rarely facebook. But coming from someone who, apparently, virtually lives on a forum...nearly 5,000 posts...that's more than a little hypocritical.
01-15-2018 04:00 PM
phil74501
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Originally Posted by fistfulladirt View Post
Uh, you have to be able to get AT&T cellular. If you can, you can get HOMBASE.
Not according to AT&T's webpage.
01-10-2018 06:38 AM
bigdogmom We have Line of Sight internet. When we bought our house it was the only thing available to us. We have a small ubiquity radio in a tree that brings internet to the house.

In six years I can count maybe 5 outages. One was because our wireless unit went out (Not the internet itself). We have other options available now, but the service is inexpensive, fast and reliable. It is also a small company providing the service rather than some mass conglomerate and thier customer service is great when you need them.

Look to see if you have someone who does this in your area.

http://www.l-com.com/content/Article...ype=L&ID=10060


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01-10-2018 12:35 AM
OldCorps ViaSat is pretty good if available in your area. Formerly known as Exede. I have high latency compared to most (670ms), but they recently added an unlimited bandwidth at 25mb speed. I had a 25gb limit before at 12mb. The difference in cost between the two was less then $20. Since they put their new satellite up, they lowered costs and increased plan usages.
01-10-2018 12:25 AM
The Old Coach
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Originally Posted by phil74501 View Post
My satellite internet went out far more than 4 time a month. I live in Oklahoma, it really storms here in the spring...in case you weren't aware. When it stormed, internet would go out, I had no access to weather info. Plus, Wild Blue thought that they could beat that "storms blocking the signal" by increasing the signal strength. Only problem was, after so many times of doing that, it burned out something in the satellite receiver. Cost over $300 to fix it...which I had to pay.
We all know that Oklahoma has weather. So do we. What did y'all do for weather info before there was Internet?

What did y'all do for entertainment before gaming and Faceplant?

Could we remember please that the original question was whether HughesNet is a viable system when you don't have DSL or fiber or cell signal. The answer is emphatically yes, and I'm living, breathing, trolling proof.
01-09-2018 05:47 PM
fistfulladirt
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Originally Posted by phil74501 View Post
My DSL is like $43 a month. I checked into that homebase thing, someone posted a link to it earlier in the thread, they don't have that here...at least that's what the webpage told me.
Where is here?
01-09-2018 05:45 PM
fistfulladirt
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Originally Posted by phil74501 View Post
My DSL is like $43 a month. I checked into that homebase thing, someone posted a link to it earlier in the thread, they don't have that here...at least that's what the webpage told me.
Uh, you have to be able to get AT&T cellular. If you can, you can get HOMBASE.
01-09-2018 06:49 AM
phil74501
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Originally Posted by The Old Coach View Post
Thank you. One less bandwidth hog on the satellite system. More for me.

Bandwidth hogging is what net neutrality was enabling. Thank you DJT for putting an end to that boondoggle.

BTW my Hughes Net has unlimited data, but they start to throttle you at 500 meg in any given day. If you get greedy and use all that, they give you 250 meg more at midnight. I'm online a lot these days. Being mobility handcapped I do a lot of shopping on Amazon and Walmart sites. I read and send email. I read a lot of weblogs, some of which have multipage posts that take some study. I read dead tree books, because the good ones aren't online, and the ones that are online mostly suck. Along with, as far as I can see, 95% of Netflix offerings. (I might like this new one about Churchill, The Darkest Hour? But then I've already read more about it than a movie can ever show. No great loss if I miss the movie.)

My daily data usage hovers around fifty or sixty megabytes.

I lose signal at the peak of thunderstorms. Sometimes for as much as half an hour. Happens 3 - 4 times a summer. I can live with it. I lost it today because my dish got covered in snow. Five minute with a broom fixed that. For seven years there has NEVER been loss of signal due to Hughes' satellites or their uplink stations.

If you're a gamer or a video addict, you need to move to where you can get faster service with less latency. If not, Hughes will be completely satisfactory. It's the perfect system for those of use who prefer to be off-grid or darned close to it.
My satellite internet went out far more than 4 time a month. I live in Oklahoma, it really storms here in the spring...in case you weren't aware. When it stormed, internet would go out, I had no access to weather info. Plus, Wild Blue thought that they could beat that "storms blocking the signal" by increasing the signal strength. Only problem was, after so many times of doing that, it burned out something in the satellite receiver. Cost over $300 to fix it...which I had to pay.
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