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05-30-2020 06:46 PM
KoolAde2 I was wondering where this thread would be after the last three days of White People being blamed for everything. The Demo-Rats need to have their butts kicked by their side before most will wake up for some they never will.
05-30-2020 05:13 PM
PalmettoTree The nations of the world have angered God the Father and His punishment shall continue. The OT tells us what to do as a nation the NT tells us who to put our faith in after we leave this earth. God the Father and Son expects us to act accordingly.
05-26-2020 10:47 PM
Nomad, 2nd
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Originally Posted by Lagnar View Post
I haven't seen any but it seems that precautions taken to slow the spread of one virus ought to do the same to another.

Flu season starts in October. Where will Winnie The Flu be by then? Anybody's guess.
Either nothing or bad:

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Genesis 41:35-36
Then let them gather all the food of these good years that are coming, and store up the grain for food in the cities under Pharaoh’s authority, and let them guard it. Let the food become as a reserve for the land for the seven years of famine which will occur in the land of Egypt, so that the land will not perish during the famine

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Proverbs21:20 The wise store up choice food and olive oil, but fools gulp theirs down.
05-26-2020 10:12 PM
Lagnar
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Originally Posted by beachgrit View Post
I'm admittedly a few days behind. Busy in the garden.

Have there been discussions/projections as to actual Flu cases this Fall/Winter projected to be fewer based upon the Covid-19 precautions being taken?

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I haven't seen any but it seems that precautions taken to slow the spread of one virus ought to do the same to another.

Flu season starts in October. Where will Winnie The Flu be by then? Anybody's guess.
05-26-2020 09:22 PM
beachgrit I'm admittedly a few days behind. Busy in the garden.

Have there been discussions/projections as to actual Flu cases this Fall/Winter projected to be fewer based upon the Covid-19 precautions being taken?



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05-26-2020 08:37 PM
Aerindel My family is also on night shift, (well, me and my kid our, wife is evening)

We don't have a basement but our bedroom is on the bottom floor so of course there are no windows and so it stays nice and cool in the summer and warm in the winter (thats where the wood stove is)
05-26-2020 11:20 AM
woozy
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Originally Posted by USNAWSRET View Post
"2nd Wave" implies the 1st wave is behind us.

This thing is just getting started. Not just the virus, but also the global
repercussions.

So call it 2nd Wave, but to me it's just "October".
This.

And the fact that peoples' actions in the US are primarily guided by poor reasoning skills, combined with the money-driven overabundance of political brainwashing we've suffered since 1985, which isn't repairable. The 1% have used expensive and incessant PR to guide what Americans think.

It started with manipulating tax law, but now it permeates everything.

All the individual can do now is to be ready if the worst happens.
05-26-2020 09:32 AM
Colt
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Originally Posted by InOmaha View Post
We had so many stinking tornado warnings one year that I got tired of sitting in the unfinished basement. So I put in a bar, microwave, sink, 3/4 bath, insulation, walls, electricity, lighting, a huge TV and comfy couches. It's the warmest place in the winter, coolest place in the summer, and a great place to watch the tornados go by on the big screen when it's that time.

Of all the places to be stuck in, I choose the basement.
We're a night shift family too. Basements are paradise when you're sleeping.
05-26-2020 09:26 AM
InOmaha
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Originally Posted by Colt View Post
Wish I had a basement. Going to make up for it once we get the new place built, though. It'll be 100% basement.
We had so many stinking tornado warnings one year that I got tired of sitting in the unfinished basement. So I put in a bar, microwave, sink, 3/4 bath, insulation, walls, electricity, lighting, a huge TV and comfy couches. It's the warmest place in the winter, coolest place in the summer, and a great place to watch the tornados go by on the big screen when it's that time.

Of all the places to be stuck in, I choose the basement.
05-26-2020 08:45 AM
Spade We all know that the Dims are attempting to hang on to this Pandemic all the way to the election. It keeps us in the Socialists mode and enables Biden to stay in the basement.

I believe what the last poster said about allowing the children to catch the virus and get over it. In the end I believe we are all herd animals and will not be able to resist getting together.
05-25-2020 09:18 PM
Grannygrump
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Originally Posted by SoJ_51 View Post
..Was the "young man" Chinese? And then there's the 'unwitting CCP-allies' in the form of the 'cougherrorists' and 'spewicide bombers' we've seen at grocery-stores and such.. (and there was Plenty of-such even in many of the Wuhan vids, early on..)

Ps: NOT A "RACIST-QUIP" Such-like ideas / plans are Straight out of the CCP's playbook.. I certainly wouldn't put it past them, is all I'm sayin.. the CCP is Pure Evil.

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jd
Cousin didn’t say. He would be considerate of another’s race but I’ll ask.

I would love love a basement. We are to close to sea level and flooding is a part of our weather problems. Houses are routinely built up so they don’t flood. We have a heavily insulated attic which helps but we don’t have a room in the attic. It has a strange layout.
05-25-2020 08:08 PM
SoJ_51
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Originally Posted by Grannygrump View Post
...A young man about 18-22 was approaching folks trying to shake hands...
..Was the "young man" Chinese? And then there's the 'unwitting CCP-allies' in the form of the 'cougherrorists' and 'spewicide bombers' we've seen at grocery-stores and such.. (and there was Plenty of-such even in many of the Wuhan vids, early on..)

Ps: NOT A "RACIST-QUIP" Such-like ideas / plans are Straight out of the CCP's playbook.. I certainly wouldn't put it past them, is all I'm sayin.. the CCP is Pure Evil.

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jd
05-25-2020 07:48 PM
Nomad, 2nd
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Originally Posted by Lagnar View Post
It USED to be 'novel', now it's not. .
DIsagree.

Long term.got ramifications and how It ends up are not yet known.

I tried to have a basement.... After it started to be a well (perched water table) I gave it up.
05-25-2020 07:45 PM
Colt
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Originally Posted by Lagnar View Post
It USED to be 'novel', now it's not. We have respirators, we have masks, we have TP, we have hospital beds, we have EXPERIENCE. We might even have a vaccine. <shrug> And the first little uptick will have the tyrants locking us down once again. That's when you will see widespread civil disobedience.

Hell, some people will still be in their basements on Christmas. They may as well stay there permanently.

The unrest will be because of food or other shortages due to the destroyed economy.
Wish I had a basement. Going to make up for it once we get the new place built, though. It'll be 100% basement.
05-25-2020 06:35 PM
Lagnar
Exactly

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Originally Posted by Mintex View Post
But now we're aware of the virus, and we know how to guard against it. We know to protect people in senior care facilities (unlike Cuomo) so we'll keep tighter protective measures in place. We'll still have the fear of the initial wave fresh in mind so we'll use masks, sanitizer, better hand-washing practice. etc. We'll also have earlier detection and treatment in place. Of course this whole theory could go right down the crapper if the virus mutates into a more virulent strain, but it's mutated several times already and not become substantially worse. “However, it should be stressed that only a fraction of all mutations will be advantageous; most will be neutral or harmful to the virus and will not persist.” -Virologist Prof. Jonathan Stoye
It USED to be 'novel', now it's not. We have respirators, we have masks, we have TP, we have hospital beds, we have EXPERIENCE. We might even have a vaccine. <shrug> And the first little uptick will have the tyrants locking us down once again. That's when you will see widespread civil disobedience.

Hell, some people will still be in their basements on Christmas. They may as well stay there permanently.

The unrest will be because of food or other shortages due to the destroyed economy.
05-25-2020 04:03 PM
jetgraphics The last time I checked, prosperity was based on prodigious production of surplus usable goods and services, equitably traded and enjoyed. Doing more with less so more can enjoy is superior to doing less with more so few can enjoy. It had nothing to do with money.

Confiscation of surplus for the purposes of socialism (compulsory charity) will inevitably discourage surplus. Why work harder or longer when gubmint will just take it from you?

And when surplus declines, the equal distribution of poverty is no remedy.

By shutting down production, and making people more dependent upon government entitlements, the lack of goods and services will be painful.

When the second wave hits, after most people have suffered from months of unemployment, it will be devastating.

It won't matter how much 'free money' government dispenses, the shelves will be bare like a 1950's Soviet Market. When there's nothing for money to buy, what good is it?


Wise Ant saith : store up a 24 month supply of necessities. A cold "winter" is coming. And hide it from gestapo grasshoppers who will 'liberate' it from you.
05-25-2020 01:26 PM
John Matherson
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Originally Posted by Camelfilter View Post
Theoretical.

Please share any NOVEL (new, never before encountered in history, in humans) respiratory true GLOBAL pandemic, in the last century.

“Spanish” influenza is all we have to go on, and what did occur.

Not scare tactics, just history.
Here are two examples, whether or not there was a second surge, I'm not sure.

1968 Pandemic (H3N2 virus)

woman working in lab
The 1968 pandemic was caused by an influenza A (H3N2) virus comprised of two genes from an avian influenza A virus, including a new H3 hemagglutinin, but also contained the N2 neuraminidase from the 1957 H2N2 virus. It was first noted in the United States in September 1968. The estimated number of deaths was 1 million worldwide and about 100,000 in the United States. Most excess deaths were in people 65 years and older. The H3N2 virus continues to circulate worldwide as a seasonal influenza A virus. Seasonal H3N2 viruses, which are associated with severe illness in older people, undergo regular

1957-1958 Pandemic (H2N2 virus)

In February 1957, a new influenza A (H2N2) virus emerged in East Asia, triggering a pandemic (“Asian Flu”). This H2N2 virus was comprised of three different genes from an H2N2 virus that originated from an avian influenza A virus, including the H2 hemagglutinin and the N2 neuraminidase genes. It was first reported in Singapore in February 1957, Hong Kong in April 1957, and in coastal cities in the United States in summer 1957. The estimated number of deaths was 1.1 million worldwide and 116,000 in the United States.
05-25-2020 12:24 PM
Grannygrump
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Originally Posted by Mintex View Post
I'd like to chime in, mostly to come back here next year and see if I was wrong!


I don't believe there will be a more severe "second wave" of COVID-19 come this fall. There will be an increase in cases like we always see with influenza and other seasonal illnesses, but not like many are predicting. COVID-19 became a pandemic because China hid its release from the world, then let 5 million citizens leave Wuhan after it entered the population. It spread like it did because it takes up to 14 days before an infected person to show symptoms, but they can infect others much sooner than that. The U.S. (and the world) were unprepared for another pandemic, in spite of medical professionals preaching for years it would happen.


But now we're aware of the virus, and we know how to guard against it. We know to protect people in senior care facilities (unlike Cuomo) so we'll keep tighter protective measures in place. We'll still have the fear of the initial wave fresh in mind so we'll use masks, sanitizer, better hand-washing practice. etc. We'll also have earlier detection and treatment in place. Of course this whole theory could go right down the crapper if the virus mutates into a more virulent strain, but it's mutated several times already and not become substantially worse. “However, it should be stressed that only a fraction of all mutations will be advantageous; most will be neutral or harmful to the virus and will not persist.” -Virologist Prof. Jonathan Stoye
I have a cousin in Tennessee who was shopping at Walmart wearing a mask and gloves. He is a healthy 30 year old who’s Mom, my first cousin, just completed cancer treatments. He, a partner and his Mom live together so he is trying to be extra careful. A young man about 18-22 was approaching folks trying to shake hands. Cousin backs up and finally has to get assertive to get that young man to stop. Wonder how many hands were shaken.

Couple of beauticians in Missouri opened shop serving 140 clients while having symptoms of covid19. Second wave is coming.
05-25-2020 12:01 PM
Colt
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Originally Posted by Mintex View Post
But now we're aware of the virus, and we know how to guard against it. We know to protect people in senior care facilities (unlike Cuomo) so we'll keep tighter protective measures in place. We'll still have the fear of the initial wave fresh in mind so we'll use masks, sanitizer, better hand-washing practice. etc. We'll also have earlier detection and treatment in place.
Knowing and doing aren't the same thing.

05-25-2020 08:22 AM
Mintex I'd like to chime in, mostly to come back here next year and see if I was wrong!


I don't believe there will be a more severe "second wave" of COVID-19 come this fall. There will be an increase in cases like we always see with influenza and other seasonal illnesses, but not like many are predicting. COVID-19 became a pandemic because China hid its release from the world, then let 5 million citizens leave Wuhan after it entered the population. It spread like it did because it takes up to 14 days before an infected person to show symptoms, but they can infect others much sooner than that. The U.S. (and the world) were unprepared for another pandemic, in spite of medical professionals preaching for years it would happen.


But now we're aware of the virus, and we know how to guard against it. We know to protect people in senior care facilities (unlike Cuomo) so we'll keep tighter protective measures in place. We'll still have the fear of the initial wave fresh in mind so we'll use masks, sanitizer, better hand-washing practice. etc. We'll also have earlier detection and treatment in place. Of course this whole theory could go right down the crapper if the virus mutates into a more virulent strain, but it's mutated several times already and not become substantially worse. “However, it should be stressed that only a fraction of all mutations will be advantageous; most will be neutral or harmful to the virus and will not persist.” -Virologist Prof. Jonathan Stoye
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