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12-04-2019 07:16 AM
me
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Originally Posted by Central Scrutinizer View Post
Virtually every human condition has now been categorized and labeled. There is a pill or surgery for everything.

So if little Johnny likes to play with Barbie, he is on the spectrum to have a sex change. Never mind that in a couple years he will be wanting to date Barbie.

No wonder people are depressed. They are labeled and confused.

Medical Doctors are equally incompetent, how can there be no cure for real ailments like cancer, common cold, tinnitus?


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I think you hit on something here. In the not too distant past the idea was to be yourself. Everyone was supposed to be happy that way, blah, blah, blah. Sometime along the way the idea became, "Just be yourself, unless you are a masculine male." At that point psychology started coming up with studies about how it was bad to be a masculine male and has been trying to force those people to subdue their natural instincts. This has forced those who are a bit more masculine to deny who they are leading, I think, some to believe they have mental issues. Some get help most don't. The ironic part is they seek help form the people who are at the root of their issues.

Listen, I mean really listen, to women who have a hard time dating. What they are missing is the masculine male that psychology pushed society to reject. I think that lack of masculine male, has led many women to think they are damaged, because they can't attract a good man. I am not saying all a woman wants is to marry a man. I am saying that what they really want deep inside is a masculine man not the crop society has harvested. This doesn't mean they want to be subservient, they just want a man to act like a man.

In the end we are all biological creatures not much different than animals. We generally react predictably to certain stimuli. We have long ingrained drives and motivations written in our genetic code that have ensured the survival of the species. To deny those drives and desires results in "mental issues".

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I saw a psychologist for an hour or two once. Did some work for fire department and apparently some get off on fires and arson. Kind of interesting but i only had to do it once.
We adopted our oldest child. He was in a bad situation when he was extremely young, so we decided we would take him to a psychologist to try to nip any problems he might have in the bud. The psychologist spent 5 minutes talking with the kid and about 40 minutes giving my wife and I a parenting class that was no different than the advice I gave many of the parents I interacted with. It was a complete waste of time.
12-04-2019 06:37 AM
Colt
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Originally Posted by IamZeke View Post
It was mostly mixed in with the fine arts crowd at my university, but it was sometimes hard to distinguish between the gays and all those sensitive types that were simply milquetoasts. Frankly, if you spent long enough to find out (usually because one was sniffing around the gals who tried to introduce you to everyone) the gays seemed to have more cajones than the emo sensitive boys. Nothing funnier than watching a gay guy call some skinny poetry boy a wimp. Personally from my observation, homosexuality and being effeminate were not automatically tied together. As long as the gay doesn't try making a hard pass at me, I can be around them without trouble. But the effeminate type, regardless of which way they swing, irritate the absolute hell out of me.
Yup. I endorse this message. Remember, at least half of gay guys are tops. And when I was growing up being gay meant you had real-world street fighting experience and you had to get good at it or else life is going to be extremely painful and possibly short.

There's 3 major 'categories' to gay guys. Twinks (the effeminate types Hollywood has always obsessed over), Hunks (fit dudes who spend their time at the gym and doing health stuff), and Bears (hairy manly dudes). A lot of gay guys are quite tough. They're just not the type you're going to see portrayed and forced on to our current generation of SJW controlled gay kids.
12-03-2019 04:28 PM
IamZeke
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Originally Posted by Jojo View Post
News to me, I always thought it was the parade in and out of the coaches offices.
It was mostly mixed in with the fine arts crowd at my university, but it was sometimes hard to distinguish between the gays and all those sensitive types that were simply milquetoasts. Frankly, if you spent long enough to find out (usually because one was sniffing around the gals who tried to introduce you to everyone) the gays seemed to have more cajones than the emo sensitive boys. Nothing funnier than watching a gay guy call some skinny poetry boy a wimp. Personally from my observation, homosexuality and being effeminate were not automatically tied together. As long as the gay doesn't try making a hard pass at me, I can be around them without trouble. But the effeminate type, regardless of which way they swing, irritate the absolute hell out of me.
12-03-2019 04:25 PM
dmas I saw a psychologist for an hour or two once. Did some work for fire department and apparently some get off on fires and arson. Kind of interesting but i only had to do it once.
12-03-2019 04:21 PM
ajole
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News to me, I always thought it was the parade in and out of the coaches offices.
Wow...sounds like projection over some latent sexuality issues there, Jojo.

You may need to go check that out with a good therapist.
12-03-2019 03:25 PM
Jojo
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Originally Posted by goat daddy View Post
When in College if you wanted to watch the "gay parade", all you had to do is visit the Psych. building
News to me, I always thought it was the parade in and out of the coaches offices.
12-03-2019 01:11 PM
goat daddy
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Originally Posted by ajole View Post
They're still cheaper than the meds...and seem to work better, without the crazy side effects.
Some people respond to the hands on approach, some to snake oil. My vote for non medical is the girl at the truck stop.
12-03-2019 01:04 PM
ajole
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Originally Posted by neiowa View Post
See also "chiropractor". None of this "professions" are in the fix it/cure business. If they did it damages the cashflow from their taxpayer/insurance gravy train. Ongoing "adjustment" and "maintenance"= income. Follow the $.
They're still cheaper than the meds...and seem to work better, without the crazy side effects.
12-03-2019 12:56 PM
fx77 Politics has invaded medicine
Science counts less and less
SJW's control narratives
Psychiatry and Psychology are at this time the most damaged by this trend.
12-03-2019 12:47 PM
neiowa See also "chiropractor". None of this "professions" are in the fix it/cure business. If they did it damages the cashflow from their taxpayer/insurance gravy train. Ongoing "adjustment" and "maintenance"= income. Follow the $.
12-03-2019 11:01 AM
mtnairkin
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Originally Posted by roseman View Post
What about community organizers.

Nice shot there rosie.
12-03-2019 11:01 AM
goat daddy When in College if you wanted to watch the "gay parade", all you had to do is visit the Psych. building
12-03-2019 06:00 AM
roseman What about community organizers.
12-03-2019 04:19 AM
bunny The same goes for Social Workers. Most of them are useless. The only thing they are good at is being enablers. They believe that being nice to their clients is helping them. Believe me the clients are professional at manipulating. The classes are easy because the professors are socialists. This is the new trend in our colleges. I worked with many of them . Our cliental were mainly out of the correction system only there to get out of jail. My name became popular in the system, It was don't get------ in treatment. Why? Cause I wouldn't play their games. It's a sad world out there.
12-03-2019 04:14 AM
IamZeke
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Iíve never seen a psychologist and Iím willing to bet most people havenít.
Guess you haven't met the VA.

So I have a compression bruised and cracked tailbone several years ago. Sitting just sucked for a half year.

Doctor asked how much it hurt and told him it depends on how long I'm sitting and if I don't eventually move it will eventually get up to 11 on a 10 scale. Obviously I get up and walk or lay down when it got bad. Doc asked if I wanted pain meds and I told him I wouldn't mind a few codeine in reserve if I was trapped on a plane a long time. I wasn't pushing hard for them, but hey, it never hurts to have a few around. So he refers me to the pain management clinic. Those guys had several screws loose there. I have to sit (ugh) for an orientation that has a bunch of really screwed battle injury vets in it. Guys in constant pain. This dumbass psychologist comes out and tries to tell them that pain can be "meditated away" like somehow a guy with ripped nerves and missing limbs can just think hard and the pain goes away. This psychologist says he's had great success at this idiocy. Come to find out the VA was trying to cut the script opiate addiction numbers down and found this fruit loop who promised the moon.

After 45 minutes I had had enough of this malarkey and the badly injured guys were almost in tears because this bozo was trying to wean them off cold turkey from their pain pumps. I got up and told he's literally becoming a pain in my ass and I was going to do something about it. I marched down to the head pharmacy director and told they were trying to put the hardcore crippled through involuntary and rapid detox. In about 24 hours they decided this moron was better suited to playing social worker and got him off the pain team. Told my primary about it too and he just rolled his eyes and simply wrote me a 30 day script.

As bad as that instance was, it rates nothing against the one time I was trying to date a hottie who was just finishing up her psych degree. Holy cow, never ever do that. She sure was good looking but conversations were like snorting Drano. A month around her and I swore off dating for half a year.
12-03-2019 03:00 AM
Colt
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According to the new DSM-5 manual, Transgender people, who have surgically altered their bodies to present as the opposite sex, aren't mentally ill.
https://tgmentalhealth.com/tag/dsm-5/

The American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) supports transitioning teens and giving puberty blockers to prepubescent children to assist in future transgender surgery. https://assets2.hrc.org/files/docume...nsChildren.pdf

Suicide rates in the US are the highest they've been since WWII and are continuing to increase. https://time.com/5609124/us-suicide-rate-increase/

75 percent of men and 67 percent of women are overweight or obese. This is up from 63 percent of men and 55 percent of women who were overweight in the early 90s. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/obesity...-wake-up-call/

When asked “How many close friends do you have that you can turn to in a crisis?” The most common answer in the past used to be five. Today, the most common answer is “none.” Half of Americans also say that nobody really knows them well: https://articles.mercola.com/sites/a...-epidemic.aspx

What is going on with modern psychology? Are they just terrible at their jobs?

What kind of 'science' are they practicing?

Material scientists have produced scratch-proof glass that gets better and more durable every year.

Computer scientists have created amazing AIs that can recognize faces and solve original problems that the humans themselves can't solve.

Botanists are creating unique new plants and agricultural methods that allow us to grow food in smaller and more efficient places.

Geneticists are changing the DNA of living organisms and curing heritable diseases in the unborn.

Psychologists are. . . what? Telling boys they can be girls? What good have psychologists done recently? How are they improving society? Are they even really scientists?
Modern psychology as a field of study attracts people with mental illnesses. You'll find almost everyone in the field started off being diagnosed with a mental illness, embarrassed that mental illness, became obsessed with the whole world of mental illness, and then naturally decided to dedicate their lives to working with and around mental illness.

Then there's been very intentional political infiltration as well more recently. In fact the whole field of study is completely entwined with politics and marketing. There are more psychology graduates going in to political campaigns and marketing companies than there are in actually conducting research or providing treatment.

But for quite some time psychology has had a large population of people who were in it to push philosophical, political, or religious agendas. They go to school already having decided their positions on everything and absolutely refuse to listen to anything they're taught. The science is there, but the science if mostly old and dismissed by both the students and professors. That science aspect of pschology has tapered off and I'd say by about 10-15 years ago the virtue and ideal of objective science and the scientific method has been effectively abolished. Science in the psychological community today is associated with evil people with no empathy. In a lot of ways the mad-house was taken over by the patients.

The DSM-5 is trash. It's a political document and absolutely no basis in objective science. Plain and simple.
12-03-2019 01:53 AM
Dread11 I’ve never seen a psychologist and I’m willing to bet most people haven’t. I don’t think we can say that people are increasingly overweight and depressed because psychologists are failing. Many never seek help from a psychologist in the first place.

I also thought that the job of a psychologist was to help people who can’t self reflect, identify, or work out problems on their own. They may diagnose a mental condition their patient is unaware of or identify goals the patient wants to achieve while mentally walking them through how to get there.

In any case, unless you have a behavioral disorder like schizophrenia, the ownership is on the individual to make the changes, not the psychologist.
12-03-2019 12:33 AM
Central Scrutinizer
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Originally Posted by Helion View Post
You will be harder pressed to find a science that is as susceptible to social pressure than psychology.



All you have to do is read or watch any marketing material and ask yourself: would this advertisement sell "X" product in 1950?Or 1850? Or even some other country?



As societies attitudes and culture change about certain things, the science behind human behavior has to be somewhat pliable.



Ask yourself why your fruity uncle isn't locked up in a sanitarium or why a mob hasn't burned down Gillette or Cokes headquarters over their ads?



Why is dog fighting and river fighting frowned upon and illegal? Why is marrying your cousin wrong? Why aren't there duels anymore? Why is hygiene so strictly enforced in some places and not others?



People and society change. A swinging pendulum of evolution and de-evolution, though the thought of what is evolutionary is open for interpretation.
Is it just me? I go bat **** crazy when some counter culture musician from my admittedly mis spent youth sells out to Madison Avenue.

Another song ruined.

Damn you Grace Slick


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12-03-2019 12:26 AM
Central Scrutinizer
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Originally Posted by dmas View Post
Psychologists are therapists but they are not mds and can't prescribe drugs.
Which may be a good thing...

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12-02-2019 11:59 PM
IamZeke
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Originally Posted by BigJim View Post
Anytime I saw a resume with a Psychology degree it went immediately into the shredder.

Useless.
Worse than useless. Do you want that type grubbing for a job at your real company?

When you call them on the carpet for substandard work you are apt to blow a gasket when they start trying to reshape your rant at them.

Noooo, don't let them in the door. Doing so would make you crazy.
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