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10-15-2019 12:09 AM
puttster Exactly, AZ. Exactly.
10-12-2019 07:17 PM
AZ_HighCountry
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Hey, same thing happens to me all the time
Perhaps if you minded your own business people wouldn't threaten to punch you in the face.
10-12-2019 04:54 PM
dontbuypotteryfromme
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Originally Posted by lucky strike View Post
I don't know....in the old days if some dude is yelling at your wife and you slug him then you wouldn't be classified as a thug, you'd be said to be defending your lady.
I get where you're coming from. I think the world would be a better place if it was easier for Men to settle problems in mutually agreed upon gentlemanly combat. Sadly the overwhelming majority of the US will get you both locked up for it.

last year an SJW Soi Boi approached my wife in a large store & began disrespecting her over her Trump shirt. I happened upon them as it was going down & I stood about 2 feet from him, looked him in the eye's & said "We don't give a **** what you think. What are you going to do about it, call me a Nazi & punch me in the face?" I had my CCW on me but, NEVER would have used it even if he was getting the better of me. My wife also had her CCW & would have shot him if he beat me to the ground & began soccer kicking me in the head but, I'm more than capable of taking a typical ass kicking & this guy would have needed a miracle to give me one.

The point of that story is that I had no intention of using anymore force than what it took to save my Lady. His spirit drained from my words alone & he walked away saying he was going to call the cops, which didn't worry me in the least & I said so as he walked away. My Ladies honor was defended without any use of violence & my wife & I both felt good about standing up to a trouble maker without escalating.... & for all I know he might have been carrying CCW as well, though those types usually wouldn't.
The whole force continuum thing nobody ever seems to understand.
10-12-2019 04:47 PM
NW GUY
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Originally Posted by clocker View Post
Now, now, Snugs... You can't type the above without telling us what happened to the recipient of said perforation!! Did the guy survive? Etc.? What's the "Rest of the Story(TM)"?

P.S. Should we be worried that you date psycho women?? And weigh your postings accordingly?
ONCE YOU stab people more than 5 or 7 times the psychological aspects come into play and you get a lot closer to voluntary manslaughter..heat of the moment, lost my head type of thing. actually reduces the stiffer penalties for homicide.
So, if you need to kill someone, don't just shoot him, SHOOT HIM... 20-30 times.cut off his head, make a planter out if his skull, use his legs to support your tomato plants...
10-12-2019 03:05 PM
Snuggle Monkey
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Originally Posted by clocker View Post
Now, now, Snugs... You can't type the above without telling us what happened to the recipient of said perforation!! Did the guy survive? Etc.? What's the "Rest of the Story(TM)"?

P.S. Should we be worried that you date psycho women?? And weigh your postings accordingly?
He didn't make it. He was an ex-cop, kicked off the force for trading drugs to young girls for sex, which is what I heard he was doing with my Ex. She was always looking for a bigger & better high even when I was dating her but, she was VERY pretty so I put up with it till she dumped me because I was a square who didn't want to get high.

Ended up getting back together with my high school sweet heart & been married almost 20 years now. Dated a few psychos when I was single but, never intentionally. My opinions & postings are no more or less than anyone else's but, that could just be my opinion.
10-12-2019 02:45 PM
clocker
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Originally Posted by Snuggle Monkey View Post
An ex-girlfriend of mine stabbed a guy 32 times in the chest & only got 7 years.
Now, now, Snugs... You can't type the above without telling us what happened to the recipient of said perforation!! Did the guy survive? Etc.? What's the "Rest of the Story(TM)"?

P.S. Should we be worried that you date psycho women?? And weigh your postings accordingly?
10-12-2019 02:39 PM
clocker
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Originally Posted by Snuggle Monkey View Post
I get where you're coming from. I think the world would be a better place if it was easier for Men to settle problems in mutually agreed upon gentlemanly combat. Sadly the overwhelming majority of the US will get you both locked up for it.

last year an SJW Soi Boi approached my wife in a large store & began disrespecting her over her Trump shirt. I happened upon them as it was going down & I stood about 2 feet from him, looked him in the eye's & said "We don't give a **** what you think. What are you going to do about it, call me a Nazi & punch me in the face?" I had my CCW on me but, NEVER would have used it even if he was getting the better of me. My wife also had her CCW & would have shot him if he beat me to the ground & began soccer kicking me in the head but, I'm more than capable of taking a typical ass kicking & this guy would have needed a miracle to give me one.

The point of that story is that I had no intention of using anymore force than what it took to save my Lady. His spirit drained from my words alone & he walked away saying he was going to call the cops, which didn't worry me in the least & I said so as he walked away. My Ladies honor was defended without any use of violence & my wife & I both felt good about standing up to a trouble maker without escalating.... & for all I know he might have been carrying CCW as well, though those types usually wouldn't.
^^ My point, exactly. The ridiculous 4-to-10 near-instant escalation, on both sides [G didn't need to shove D to the ground (wife/gf was in no obvious, immediate danger); D didn't need to draw-and-shoot (even after he was put on the ground, he sat up and later got up and walked around, possibly bruised but mostly unhurt), is more than a little worrisome for civil society. If anything, this is prime evidence of what not to do, and what can result if/when people don't keep their emotions/anger in check. Stupid, ridiculous people, both.

We live among the crazy. Be careful out there.
10-12-2019 02:37 PM
Snuggle Monkey
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^^ I think putts is trying to be facetious (or at least he thinks he is...).
That was my impression as well.
10-12-2019 02:33 PM
clocker ^^ I think putts is trying to be facetious (or at least he thinks he is...).
10-12-2019 02:28 PM
Snuggle Monkey
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Hey, same thing happens to me all the time
That sucks. It's only happened to us that one time. Usually we just get compliments or a thumbs up for our Trump gear.
10-12-2019 10:52 AM
puttster
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Originally Posted by Snuggle Monkey View Post
last year an SJW Soi Boi approached my wife in a large store & began disrespecting her over her Trump shirt. I happened upon them as it was going down & I stood about 2 feet from him, looked him in the eye's & said "We don't give a **** what you think. What are you going to do about it, call me a Nazi & punch me in the face?" I had my CCW on me
Hey, same thing happens to me all the time
10-12-2019 10:30 AM
Snuggle Monkey
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Originally Posted by lucky strike View Post
I don't know....in the old days if some dude is yelling at your wife and you slug him then you wouldn't be classified as a thug, you'd be said to be defending your lady.
I get where you're coming from. I think the world would be a better place if it was easier for Men to settle problems in mutually agreed upon gentlemanly combat. Sadly the overwhelming majority of the US will get you both locked up for it.

last year an SJW Soi Boi approached my wife in a large store & began disrespecting her over her Trump shirt. I happened upon them as it was going down & I stood about 2 feet from him, looked him in the eye's & said "We don't give a **** what you think. What are you going to do about it, call me a Nazi & punch me in the face?" I had my CCW on me but, NEVER would have used it even if he was getting the better of me. My wife also had her CCW & would have shot him if he beat me to the ground & began soccer kicking me in the head but, I'm more than capable of taking a typical ass kicking & this guy would have needed a miracle to give me one.

The point of that story is that I had no intention of using anymore force than what it took to save my Lady. His spirit drained from my words alone & he walked away saying he was going to call the cops, which didn't worry me in the least & I said so as he walked away. My Ladies honor was defended without any use of violence & my wife & I both felt good about standing up to a trouble maker without escalating.... & for all I know he might have been carrying CCW as well, though those types usually wouldn't.
10-12-2019 10:14 AM
Jack Swilling And one less Baby-Dady high on ecstasy to crank out more bastards that the citizens have to pay for.
I guess everyone should be happy
10-12-2019 10:03 AM
AZ_HighCountry I would say that Drejka was very low IQ as well and should have known better. But he clearly didn't. Or, he intentionally provoked the incident. Either way, a jury of his peers made their decision. One more thug off the streets.
10-12-2019 09:56 AM
Snuggle Monkey
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Originally Posted by AZ_HighCountry View Post
Cause and effect, ever hear of it?

Drejka anointed himself to be something he wasn't, stuck his nose where he shouldn't have, and will have 20 years to think about it.
Glad to hear that we are basically in agreement then. Of course I've heard of "cause & effect" & that's why I would have found him guilty. As a CCW carrier EXTRA precaution needs to be taken in order NOT to provoke violent low IQ thugs into violence.

Drejka started an argument which was the "Cause" that lead to the "effect" of McGlockton initiating the violence that lead to Drejka thinking he could shoot & kill him. Drejka should have known better & a 20 year sentence is appropriate, even if Drejka was intentionally luring McGlockton to his death or simply too stupid to know better.... An ex-girlfriend of mine stabbed a guy 32 times in the chest & only got 7 years.
10-11-2019 09:10 PM
OC-Trainer
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Originally Posted by Snyper708 View Post
No, he really wasn't.
He had no "right" to assault anyone at all.
It wasn't assault. The fact that you still post that, after the trial no less, shows how little you know. Or are you just trolling again?

You talk a good game and needle everyone constantly. Now let's see if you can back it up...

What do you want to wager you're right and I'm wrong?
10-11-2019 07:44 PM
AZ_HighCountry
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Originally Posted by Snuggle Monkey View Post
If I were on the Jury I'd have found him guilty too but, he did NOT initiate the violence. He started the argument that caused McGlockton to initiate violence by pushing him to the pavement.

Drejka is either a stupid idiot who didn't know better, or a cunning sociopath who intentionally manipulated a violent low IQ thug into a situation where he could shoot him. The latter is worse than the former but, the end result is the same & Drejka needs to serve as an example for CCW carriers so they don't mistakenly think their CCW is a license to kill.
Cause and effect, ever hear of it?

Drejka anointed himself to be something he wasn't, stuck his nose where he shouldn't have, and will have 20 years to think about it.
10-11-2019 07:08 PM
Snyper708
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Originally Posted by OC-Trainer View Post
I'm not going to rehash every detail of this case because we've covered it ad nauseam, but McGlockton was well within his right as per FL law to do what he did. And as I pointed out many dozens of pages ago, Drejka himself didn't park in a "legal" spot.

Drejka should have minded his own **** business and would not have done what he did had he not been strapped.
No, he really wasn't.
He had no "right" to assault anyone at all.
10-11-2019 03:30 PM
ForgedInTheFlame
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Originally Posted by lucky strike View Post
I don't know....in the old days if some dude is yelling at your wife and you slug him then you wouldn't be classified as a thug, you'd be said to be defending your lady.
Well said.

These days you'll be hauled off to jail and probably sued. The pussification of USA continues.

And again, further proof that my thread asking about the repercussions of beating someone senseless in public, validated.

Sent from my Note 8 using Tapatalk
10-11-2019 02:57 PM
clocker
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Originally Posted by lucky strike View Post
I don't know....in the old days if some dude is yelling at your wife and you slug him then you wouldn't be classified as a thug, you'd be said to be defending your lady.
Glockton had probably 50# on Drejka, ~5% fat and real strength. He didn't have to shove anyone; stepping up and speaking authoritative would've sufficed against Drejka, who likely would've backed down. Ironically, the shove actually gave Drejka the distance he needed to draw and fire. If G had been right up near D, D would've had no chance to do anything.

Tragic. Two people who couldn't keep their anger in check: one is dead, and the other will spend the next 2 decades in the clink.
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