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11-27-2018 02:56 PM
survivetheword I had several mixed breeds they were good guard dogs but did not have the power to stop and intruder when I had a break in here near DC.

We bought a pitbull, but was not a good guard dog. Now we want a Cane Corso, I am waiting on a breeder to have their next litter, they don't breed much so i guess i will be waiting a little. My friend has one so i'm going with same breeder. Here is photo of the Dad of my friends dog.


does anyone have a dogo argentina? I may consider one of these...
10-10-2017 11:03 AM
stings1918 Watch dog here. Not interested in guard dogs. Have Great Dane and a ridge back.
10-03-2017 05:21 AM
347PS
Dog

We have 4 American Spitz. One bites. Pick one !
09-29-2017 05:39 PM
ambos lados
Newfies & Malamutes...

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Originally Posted by sarco2000 View Post
IMHO if there are young kids around I just wouldn't want a dog big enough to seriously hurt them no matter how trained they are. With big dogs who are great with kids, everything is fine until it isn't. Then you read about it in the paper.

That's just my view and I realize not everyone will agree with me. You simply cannot be guaranteed that some day the dog won't turn and kill that child. It's impossible to guarantee.

I do have a big dog right now (a Newfy) but my kids are grown now.

Small dogs are everywhere and make great watch dogs, giving you time to get a firearm and investigate. If you leave a guard dog to watch your house while you're not home, there is a chance they will just kill the dog. .
well, and Golden Retrievers, are just about the only big dogs I would trust with small kids. After a period of watching, of course. Both Newfies and Malamutes are legendary as baby sitters, Newfies as lifeguards.
09-23-2017 08:14 AM
nurtlh I have a Rottweiler/Pitt Bull mix I got as a rescue when he was a puppy he is now nine years old. He is very protective of the property and even more so of me.
09-06-2017 11:23 AM
WoodHavenHunter We have a black lab (for hunting) and a german shepherd (guard dog). They both have very protective instincts. If a car goes by on our rarely traveled road (a few hundred feet from the house) at an odd hour, they will be on alert. During the day, they just sit when a car goes by, as they were trained to do. We never taught them this, but they know when someone is supposed to be on our land and when they are not.
09-05-2017 09:28 PM
HeavyHauler
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Originally Posted by Hilltopper View Post
Heavy Hauler, I am acquainted with a reputable Leonberger breeder out here that used to also breed top notch horses so I know they know their stuff , and I am considering getting a puppy from them myself in this next year as I think I would like the breed and trust their breeding. I think they only have one female left from their recent litter .

Every single property here have larger sized 'bear' dogs and you can hear them sound and I can tell exactly where the bear(s) are by the barking . The three cane corso in front of the north half of my property pretty much stop everything, even the cougar I saw skirt into our driveway, to avoid them out on the road . I need a breed that can stay outside at night but oh man those mountain dogs SHED hair like crazy for months .
Go with a corso. They shed less. Unless they get alopecia like mine. He sheds a ton every day.

Although today, my wife and I noticed something strange. His fawn color is coming back! His fur still sheds but not a crazy amount.

I hope it can sort of fix itself.

I just saw the part where you said they need to be outside at night. Get a long haired breed, especially for winter. Or maybe a medium haired breed.

My sheltie lived outside for 90% of the 13 years I had him. Even in winter at -45c. Don't ask me why, I gave him every chance to come inside and he looked at me like I was crazy. Lol.

Ares likes the cold, and grew a thicker coat to help ward it off; but now with alopecia, I'm not sure how he will fare against -55c. I'll be sure to make updates. Winter has already started up here. Leaves are turning and falling, we have a few weeks of fall and then it's winter. Lol. Snowed here in the middle of September last year if I remember correctly.
09-05-2017 01:02 AM
Hilltopper Heavy Hauler, I am acquainted with a reputable Leonberger breeder out here that used to also breed top notch horses so I know they know their stuff , and I am considering getting a puppy from them myself in this next year as I think I would like the breed and trust their breeding. I think they only have one female left from their recent litter .

Every single property here have larger sized 'bear' dogs and you can hear them sound and I can tell exactly where the bear(s) are by the barking . The three cane corso in front of the north half of my property pretty much stop everything, even the cougar I saw skirt into our driveway, to avoid them out on the road . I need a breed that can stay outside at night but oh man those mountain dogs SHED hair like crazy for months .
09-05-2017 12:37 AM
DG23
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Originally Posted by HeavyHauler View Post
Thought I would post an update on Ares.

He is now a few days over a year old. He currently weighs in at 120lbs. Still energetic and has an incredible prey drive.

Still loves the kids, they climb on him and play with him. He enjoys it.

He remains vigilant in his watching, alerting and guarding.

His training is going well.

But he has some health issues; Cherry eye (surgery twice-both failed) and alopecia; a fur disorder (aesthetic as of now). The breeder has told me over and over again the parents have had no health issues. But 3 of the dogs from that litter have alopecia? So clearly it's inherited. I figured a registered breeder would know her **** and not lie, I believe I was swindled.

Ares is a great dog, but his breeder is far from being great. I was considering buying another Corso from her, but not now.

My wife wants a Leonberger, so we're on the look for a proper breeder of them.
Sorry to hear about your doggie health issues and wish you the best of luck dealing with them sir.

It is always 'possible' for a puppy to have perfectly healthy parents and that puppy grow up and become 'sickly' somehow just like it is always possible to different puppies from the same litter to grow up and have different health 'needs' as they develop.

I do not personally believe there are any real guarantees as far as that sort of stuff is concerned. You may end up with lower 'odds' of particular ailments with the right breeding but I can't see how anything can be ruled out entirely.


In my case with my current girls (littermates) - They both get fed the same exact things, in the same portion sizes and at the same times and always have. While it may not seem logical - The one that is most active is (and has been for a good many years) a good ten lbs heavier than her sister and likely always will be. The 'couch potato' dog that is least active maintains a 'book average' weight no matter what. Judging from the activity levels of each those numbers 'should' be flipped around but they are not.

As far as health issues are concerned - One of mine gets eye boogers fairly regularly and I am pretty sure it is related to a very mild allergy of some sort. The other has never had any such sort of issues like that.

Temperament can be just as different when comparing puppies from the same litter (or to their parents) as they develop as well. Even if you go out of your way to expose your dogs to the same things at the same times and treat them 'equally' - There is no guarantee they will behave the same way as each other once they get to be adults. Mine are 'night and day' different in that respect. I don't consider this a problem in my case - Just means that I have to know and understand what each dog is 'best' suited for and use them accordingly.

Again, Wish you the best possible luck with your dog.
09-04-2017 08:31 PM
HeavyHauler Thought I would post an update on Ares.

He is now a few days over a year old. He currently weighs in at 120lbs. Still energetic and has an incredible prey drive.

Still loves the kids, they climb on him and play with him. He enjoys it.

He remains vigilant in his watching, alerting and guarding.

His training is going well.

But he has some health issues; Cherry eye (surgery twice-both failed) and alopecia; a fur disorder (aesthetic as of now). The breeder has told me over and over again the parents have had no health issues. But 3 of the dogs from that litter have alopecia? So clearly it's inherited. I figured a registered breeder would know her **** and not lie, I believe I was swindled.

Ares is a great dog, but his breeder is far from being great. I was considering buying another Corso from her, but not now.

My wife wants a Leonberger, so we're on the look for a proper breeder of them.
09-04-2017 08:09 PM
vivisky I prefer large breed dogs, they are healthier. The small breeds, tend to be poorly trained, since their size is not an issue and they look "cute" for so long, they grow up believing all their misbehavior is alright. Of course it is The owners who have to train all dogs, small or largee.
09-04-2017 07:51 PM
rwtrapper My little mutt a Jack Russell mix is a game changer. He is so small that he is real concerned something might get him so he tell me to look out. He alarms the older yard dogs and they work well to cover the yard with eyes an noses.Dogs are truly mans protector!
09-04-2017 07:12 PM
Lt. Willy from my personal family and life experience, a well bred female German Shepard is very tough to beat as an all around family dog and also an instinctive protection dog. And they love kids, even other neighbors kids. They just know.
When my wife and I were in our first house we searched and finally found a breeder of a Standard Schnauzer. Not the Giant or mini, the original German bred dog. Best all around family and protection dog I have ever seen. Loved to play with kids, loved my wife to death. I was a working Cop and worked rotating shifts, no one came near that house without her knowing, ever. But if she let them in and acted normal the dog would treat them like a long lost buddy but would still watch every move they made. I had a good friend I knew through the cop shop who was a pro trainer, police security and civilian. I told him I was concerned how the dog would do if someone tried to actually force his way into the house when I was not around. He said we'll test him. One night when I was at work and with my wife's full understanding Dan went to a rear window and made noise like he was trying to jimmy the window. Smokey went into full action and was at that window in combat mode with my wife standing back and saying "who is it Smokey" Smokey knew it was not a good thing and Dan told me he wished luck to anyone who tried to climb in there. About two weeks later Dan said you ready to do a real test and with that arrangements were made that he would come to the door, knock and my wife would answer opening the wood door but not the screen door. Dan, wearing a protection sleeve under his jacket would try to enter with my wife yelling at him to get out. H e yanked open the screen door and Smokey got between him and my wife so fast that Dan said he almost did not have time to get the sleeve down before Smokey was on him. Smokey went into full on terrier mode and clamped onto Dan's sleeve so hard that he was doing some yelling at him and light kicking at him and even grabbed the plastic garbage can and hitting him with it. He had a hard time squeezing out the screen door and breaking off with Smokey.
I met Dan in the parking lot of an adjacent school and this is what he said to me. Don't attempt to train that dog, don't do a da** thing with that dog. Leave him alone he is perfect the way he is.
We lost Smokey many years later but if you said to me Bill, what kind of dog would you get to protect a family it would be a Standard Schnauzer, either sex, and a close second would be a well bred female Shepard. One that I could see both parents of.
JMHO
09-04-2017 05:12 PM
qdviv When I owned a farm I had 4 dogs. No one made it even half way up my 120 yd long drive before I knew someone was coming. I now live in a semi-rural suburb and I only have a cat. I'm sure he would watch (probably from under the bed), but that's all. Peacocks or geese are hard to beat as far as alerting you to guests (welcome or otherwise) and you can always eat the geese if they don't perform to your expectations. (I don't know about eating peacocks) and unlike dogs they don't eat much expensive store bought food. My cousin in Miami, FL once had 2 Dobermans. He liked them because they didn't bark much at all. It seemed they preferred to watch burglars attempt to break in before they attacked which they did on at least two occasions as he discovered; once when he found a bloody tennis shoe by a back window and another time when he found a good sized piece of bloody denim near his back porch door.
09-02-2017 08:49 PM
DG23
Both...

I keep a pair of Dobermans (and have done so for many years now).

Short story:

Was out back feeding the chickens one day and had the girls running around the yard 'free'. One was sorta close to me and I could see her but the other was off elsewhere in the yard.

Just got done with the birds and heard barking and growling coming from the front near the house. The girl that was with me took off to check it out. By the time I got there they were both in the process of 'warning' a stranger that had walked up the driveway to the house.

It ended up being a Census lady and they had her backed up against the wall of the house with her hands in the air. (five feet or so from a 'no trespassing' sign) Scared the mess out of her but did not bite anything! Lady was still visibly uncomfortable even after the dogs were told she was 'cool' and they backed off / left her alone. She was very, very quick to do her job and go away...

Whatever sort of dog you decide to get - You don't want it to just run up and bite anything that moves in your yard. You also want a dog that can be trained to listen to your commands no matter what is going on around them. Particular breeds are going to be smarter than others and the training needs will differ.
02-21-2017 04:26 PM
FlRanger2187 Why not simply have both?
02-20-2017 05:30 PM
Jonnyboy88 So just wondering was any of the training you did with him baite work or attack work a lot of the stuff I read Said it takes it for a gured dog to really be able to stop a intruder but the few people that use the Mastiff dogs said it was a bad idea for two reasons
1 they have been used as gurad dogs for every so it is breed into them

2 they say baite work can get them to the point where they are to quick to bait and in dogs that size it can be to dangerous

So was attack work something you did with him or with his pray drive would you think he would just know to go after anyone who tries to hurt you or one of your family
02-20-2017 04:54 PM
HeavyHauler
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Interesting looking dog I have heard that they can be one of the best breed's for guard dogs but I was wondering since you had him next to a kid does he just put up with the kid because you tell him to or does he actually like the kid also did you get him before the kid or after how is he when people that he doesn't know comes over do you tell him it OK and he leave them alone or does he have to be put up before you let anyone in also it sounds like they can be a high string dog so do they have to have something to do all the time or is he OK for a little bit by himself say when you are at work or do you have to have someone with him
No, he likes them. He's really good with them. I got him after our kids.

He'll bark/growl when people come into the yard or to the door, but if I say leave 'em; he leaves 'em be. Unless he likes them and wants to be pet by them. He seems to be a good judge of character.

He's good by himself, whether he's been exercised or not. I work nights, so my wife is home with him from 6pm to 6am. He sleeps in his crate, with the door open so he can wander around the house during the night, just in case someone decides to come in uninvited.

But it's been training and maintaining training since day 1 with him. He caught on super quick to everything and listens to every word that I say and most of the time, to my wife.

He's a great dog. The breeder lives a province away from us, so I couldn't just go and hang out with the dogs. But I saw a few photos of them, and took a good look at them. He was the leader of the group, leading his brothers and sisters around the ranch. It only really took me the first photo to decide he was the one. Something just said; "He's good, I can tell" and he has been.
02-20-2017 04:44 PM
Jonnyboy88 Interesting looking dog I have heard that they can be one of the best breed's for guard dogs but I was wondering since you had him next to a kid does he just put up with the kid because you tell him to or does he actually like the kid also did you get him before the kid or after how is he when people that he doesn't know comes over do you tell him it OK and he leave them alone or does he have to be put up before you let anyone in also it sounds like they can be a high string dog so do they have to have something to do all the time or is he OK for a little bit by himself say when you are at work or do you have to have someone with him
02-20-2017 03:29 PM
HeavyHauler Here's my corso, Ares.











^My "little" land shark. He's got an excellent prey drive.

He's nearly 6 months old, now and over 60lbs.

My boss came to my door yesterday evening, to see if I would come into work on my night off. Ares started growling, that means someone is in the yard; then he started barking; someone is at the door.

Sure enough, there was a knock at the door.
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