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12-15-2019 11:03 PM
Madoc Yer right Nomad. OTOH; there are still alternatives for training. Not that I would know anything at all about that. At all.
12-15-2019 10:54 PM
Nomad, 2nd
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With 4 days to go: despite all of the media attention and in-our-faces threats by the NZ Police, the firearms buyback has failed.

Based on the NZ Police’s own numbers, NZ Customs' records, and analysis of records from firearms distributors, there are a likely total of 170,000 of the newly banned firearms in New Zealand.

That means that the 47,486 Police report as having been handed in is only 28% of the total number.
Unfortunately it hasn't failed, it's just going slowly.

28% down, the rest is multigenerational confiscation because you can't train with them anymore and your kids will turn them in.

Sundown and coffin rock and all.
12-15-2019 10:51 PM
Ghost863
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That's one of the things I'm counting on.

Plus, sheer gubbermin inefficiency!
as black dog said, I too will keep you guys in my prayers.
12-15-2019 10:46 PM
~Black.Dog~ Wishing you all luck down there. It sucks when things get to this.
Our Brothers across the state line in VA are staring this down since the VA legislature went blue in the last election. Things may go hot over there.
I'll be praying for all of you.

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12-15-2019 10:41 PM
Madoc That's one of the things I'm counting on.

Plus, sheer gubbermin inefficiency!
12-15-2019 10:36 PM
Ghost863
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Thank you.

I'm not hopeful.

For example - the Council of Licensed Firearms Owners who are spearheading the publicity and legal challenges, have only 4,133* donors to the legal fighting fund. Out of an estimated 250,000+ firearms owners.

*And 5 of those donations are mine (not bragging, just that since this started I have donated the monthly $ I used to spend on ammo, in support).
I don't think they will do much collectively, it is as individuals you guys have to be careful. I mean it is not like they lock every person in the country in Jail, if they did, who would pay their salaries through taxation?
12-15-2019 10:33 PM
Madoc
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Madoc, for you guys down under I hope you get this repealed and the state decides it is not worth the fight. Good luck and God be with you all.
Thank you.

I'm not hopeful.

For example - the Council of Licensed Firearms Owners who are spearheading the publicity and legal challenges, have only 4,133* donors to the legal fighting fund. Out of an estimated 250,000+ firearms owners.

*And 5 of those donations are mine (not bragging, just that since this started I have donated the monthly $ I used to spend on ammo, in support).
12-15-2019 10:29 PM
Ghost863
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Originally Posted by Madoc View Post
With 4 days to go: despite all of the media attention and in-our-faces threats by the NZ Police, the firearms buyback has failed.

Based on the NZ Police’s own numbers, NZ Customs' records, and analysis of records from firearms distributors, there are a likely total of 170,000 of the newly banned firearms in New Zealand.

That means that the 47,486 Police report as having been handed in is only 28% of the total number.
Madoc, for you guys down under I hope you get this repealed and the state decides it is not worth the fight. Good luck and God be with you all.
12-15-2019 10:24 PM
Madoc With 4 days to go: despite all of the media attention and in-our-faces threats by the NZ Police, the firearms buyback has failed.

Based on the NZ Police’s own numbers, NZ Customs' records, and analysis of records from firearms distributors, there are a likely total of 170,000 of the newly banned firearms in New Zealand.

That means that the 47,486 Police report as having been handed in is only 28% of the total number.
11-30-2019 10:13 PM
Ghost863
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Originally Posted by 4X4 View Post
I don't think you have anything to prove to that leftist or any other leftist anywhere. Live your life the best way you know how. Keeping a promise to God is something deeply personal and only you can answer for it in the end, nobody else with their "Opinions" matters much with that. It's nice being able to look at yourself in the mirror and be ok with what you see. That's pretty important in my estimation of things.
it's too bad that the left can't do the same. If I was like them, there is no way in hell I could ever look in the mirror with pride and like what I saw.
11-30-2019 10:10 PM
4X4
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That's because when I took my oath of enlistment I promised God. And you don't take a promise back from him brother. and as far as the positive outlook goes, I am extremely confident that my rights will be restored and when they are, like I told dirtypig, I will post photos of the firearms I buy (mainly because I will be very proud that I got my rights back)

I don't think you have anything to prove to that leftist or any other leftist anywhere. Live your life the best way you know how. Keeping a promise to God is something deeply personal and only you can answer for it in the end, nobody else with their "Opinions" matters much with that. It's nice being able to look at yourself in the mirror and be ok with what you see. That's pretty important in my estimation of things.
11-30-2019 09:50 PM
Ghost863
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Kind of like you following Ghost around right now. Reading many of your posts you seem obsessed with proving some other bizarre point. Perhaps you should be the one moving along as most seem to not mind his opinions. They are from what I can tell based upon what's happened to him in his life all the while not giving up and having a positive outlook as a result while still being very patriotic.
That's because when I took my oath of enlistment I promised God. And you don't take a promise back from him brother. and as far as the positive outlook goes, I am extremely confident that my rights will be restored and when they are, like I told dirtypig, I will post photos of the firearms I buy (mainly because I will be very proud that I got my rights back)
11-30-2019 09:50 PM
4X4
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The reason "we" here in NZ keep electing socialist tax-thieving gun-grabbers who strangle the productive is, IMO, because in the last decade a simple majority of the NZ populace now get more bennies (NZ-speak for benefits) from the Govt, than they contribute in tax.

We others (= net taxpayers) are experiencing exactly the implementation of the saying "A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul."

This is my country and I am a patriot but I am also not blind and although I am outnumbered and "lost my guns in a voting accident", giving up is not on the list of options.
I really sympathize with you. You must feel like you are already strapped into the car on the roller coaster ride and there is nothing you can do along the way until it ends. I have never understood why anyone would prefer socialism over a capitalist society. No room to move up, you are cast into a position in society for generations to come. I suppose it just comes down to people accepting anything is their basic needs are met. After awhile though everyone stops producing and it all collapses unless they allow for the top earners to keep injecting money into the bank but even then they look to other places to make their money where they can keep it without being taxed to death.

I'm not at all looking at you in a negative light. I more rather wish there was something your people could or would do for themselves. Each time I see jacinda popping her chops on the television with her "Wonderful ideas" is sickens me for your people. It boggles my mind that they think this time around everything will be just hunky dory and the society will be just fine as long as everyone is dependent on all of that "Free stuff" So many of us here are ardent supporters of maintaining firearms because we all know that without a means to defend yourselves you are subject to the whim of whatever form of government the powers that be enact all the while being protected by further oppressive laws and people with lots of guns given the legal right to keep their boot on the back of your neck.

We are not immune here either. We live under that constant threat with all of these leftist "Socialist democrats" Our nation is under the threat of this foolishness, especially with younger voters who just don't seem to care as long as they get that "Free stuff" We will see how it goes here. Hang in there and keep your powder dry. All is not lost as I'm hopeful it's not too late for your people to not put up with this foolishness much longer.
11-30-2019 09:31 PM
4X4
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Hey, "Slayer of Trolls" it's obvious that you yourself are nothing more than a troll. All I've seen you do is follow dirtpig around and continually call him a "coward." Which is odd because if he is a "coward" for choosing to live in another country, then what do you call a twice convicted domestic abuser?
You seem obsessed with trying to prove some bizarre point. Move along already. You've sidetracked this thread long enough.
Kind of like you following Ghost around right now. Reading many of your posts you seem obsessed with proving some other bizarre point. Perhaps you should be the one moving along as most seem to not mind his opinions. They are from what I can tell based upon what's happened to him in his life all the while not giving up and having a positive outlook as a result while still being very patriotic.
11-30-2019 09:01 PM
Truck Vet
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The reason "we" here in NZ keep electing socialist tax-thieving gun-grabbers who strangle the productive is, IMO, because in the last decade a simple majority of the NZ populace now get more bennies (NZ-speak for benefits) from the Govt, than they contribute in tax.

We others (= net taxpayers) are experiencing exactly the implementation of the saying "A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul."

This is my country and I am a patriot but I am also not blind and although I am outnumbered and "lost my guns in a voting accident", giving up is not on the list of options.
There are only 2 reasons we are not in the same situation over here.

Number one is, of course, the 2nd Amendment.

Number two is that our founding fathers set up a system where its
harder for the socialist city dwellers to vote in socialism as our form
of government.

Hillary Clinton voters outnumbered Trump voters in 2016. If we lived
in a Democracy rather than a Republic, she would have won. It was our
founding Fathers who saved us from what has just happened to you.

My point is that no one alive today saved us, and while we should be
proud of what we are, we have no room to be smug about it. On the
same token, you have nothing to be ashamed of.

This does not mean it can't happen here. But until they come up with
a Candidate at the level of a younger Bill Clinton or Barry Obama,
we are safe for now.
11-30-2019 09:00 PM
Ghost863
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Originally Posted by Madoc View Post
The reason "we" here in NZ keep electing socialist tax-thieving gun-grabbers who strangle the productive is, IMO, because in the last decade a simple majority of the NZ populace now get more bennies (NZ-speak for benefits) from the Govt, than they contribute in tax.

We others (= net taxpayers) are experiencing exactly the implementation of the saying "A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul."

This is my country and I am a patriot but I am also not blind and although I am outnumbered and "lost my guns in a voting accident", giving up is not on the list of options.
Madoc, I highly respect you because you do love your country and do not plan on leaving but rather you are staying and trying what you can to change your situation down there. And for the record I hope yo guys are successful. In the case of others who leave and then try to stir the pot, I have no respect for them whatsoever. Those are the troublemakers that put our country in the position it is in now, and then they want to condemn America for the trouble they caused. I am sorry you guys have the semi-auto weapon ban and really hope you get it turned around. I will keep you in my prayers and all of your fellow countrymen. Good luck with your situation and we will continue to work on ours here.
11-30-2019 08:45 PM
Ghost863 and for the record bigmac mcd, I do not despise him for moving to another country, I despise him because he moved to another country and started talking **** about this one. If you have a problem with this country, don't talk about it, just leave and don't look back. Instead of taking the cowards way where you leave and then you try to start problems. That is why I despise him and why I am coming to despise you as well.
11-30-2019 08:41 PM
Ghost863
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Originally Posted by MikeMcD View Post
Hey, "Slayer of Trolls" it's obvious that you yourself are nothing more than a troll. All I've seen you do is follow dirtpig around and continually call him a "coward." Which is odd because if he is a "coward" for choosing to live in another country, then what do you call a twice convicted domestic abuser?
You seem obsessed with trying to prove some bizarre point. Move along already. You've sidetracked this thread long enough.
why don't you mind your own business and for your info dumb ass, it was him following me from thread to thread. But I guess that is one of your liberal sjw snowflake tactics, blame other for what yo are guilty of. This post I am replying to makes you just as much of a loser as he is, so why don't you do as he did and go troll elsewhere. Or are you trying to stir the pot now, because I have no problem going head to head with you as well.
11-30-2019 08:15 PM
Madoc The reason "we" here in NZ keep electing socialist tax-thieving gun-grabbers who strangle the productive is, IMO, because in the last decade a simple majority of the NZ populace now get more bennies (NZ-speak for benefits) from the Govt, than they contribute in tax.

We others (= net taxpayers) are experiencing exactly the implementation of the saying "A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul."

This is my country and I am a patriot but I am also not blind and although I am outnumbered and "lost my guns in a voting accident", giving up is not on the list of options.
11-30-2019 07:31 PM
Truck Vet
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I'm with you on much of that. I don't mind a good debate and if someone can change my mind about a topic so be it. I chalk that up to learning something. What I don't give ear to is some fool incessantly rambling just to troll a forum to be right about something even though they know they are wrong and/or just trolling, that tires most people.

Now as to ol' Booty-gig. You do have an interesting thought. He has no chance of it now but out of all of those whack jobs he's the only one who at least above the table sounds less crazy. I don't know if he could rise up to the presidential level but he's certainly going to stick around for a very long time in politics in one form or the other.
I think Booty-gig screwed up by kissing his man on national TV if I remember
right. Black people just don't like that. So while he polls well with white
liberals, he can't get traction with the traditional black Democrat.

Maybe he will wise up after Trump is reelected, and decide not to
flaunt his homosexuality when he runs again?

Unless you are gay, or far left, a man really doesn't want to see that
type of ****.

So each of the Democrats front runners have a serious problem that needs to
be addressed if they are going to be a threat to Pence or even Cruz in 2024.
I could list them, but that's not what this thread is about.
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