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07-20-2018 06:52 AM
Billy02 categorization is good. one should be careful.
06-05-2017 09:57 AM
Griz326 Probably the best prepping for a SHTF escape are 7-10 day, off (popular) trail hikes. You have only what you can carry on your back, cover a lot of ground, and must survive a variety of situations.

The loops around Mt Rainier, the Olympic National Forest, the Appalachia Trail, and such can be full of suprises.

I went off-trail deep in Yellowstone back before you could legally carry in National Parks. I should have had a gun; a few situations would have been easier with a gun available.

I always have a gun now everywhere.
02-16-2016 03:46 PM
Arid-Zonnie
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Originally Posted by WestTennWoodsman View Post
I dunno about all this stuff in this topic but if wilderness survival doesn't include a backpack or hiking or camping id damm sure like to see a section made just for that purpose cuz I been doing it all wrong all these years. Lol. I am a woods dweller. I like "bushcraft" type things but on an old school level. I came here for wilderness type things. Bug out? WTF is that? From what I read I did that years ago. Perhaps the section in question should be renamed "wilderness survival WHILE camping and hiking recreationally"? Just to eliminate confusion because I honestly thought that was the right place to post for woods creatures such as myself. Thanks kev for a decent forum. Some other "bushcrafting" places are so anal,unless of course you make a monetary donation for full access.
I am here myself to learn more in the way of the bushcraft of our forefathers for the reason of detachment from dependence of our current government. Not that I don't want to support our government, I just want to become more self reliant and break free from the government teet.
02-16-2016 03:37 PM
Arid-Zonnie
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Originally Posted by kev View Post
In the past couple of days I have moved around a dozen threads out of this section.

Lets get a few things straight:

Hiking and camping does not include "Bugging Out" or "backpack survival."

Firearms, unless its self defense against a bear attack or wild animal attack.

AK-47s and AR-15s are not recommended for stopping a bear, so please do not post anything about those firearms here.

Hiking, camping and wilderness survival means just that - hiking, camping and wilderness survival.

I am getting tired of moving threads. If this keeps up, when I move a thread, an infraction will be given out.
I now understand what you were trying to avoid. I am trying to learn more about bushcraft, though it's not what you want to hear. I wish to learn more in the way of bushcraft, in order to sustain myself in a bug out scenario. Thanks for hosting a fine forum.
02-10-2016 12:30 PM
WestTennWoodsman
Guidelines for the Wilderness survival, hiking and camping section

I dunno about all this stuff in this topic but if wilderness survival doesn't include a backpack or hiking or camping id damm sure like to see a section made just for that purpose cuz I been doing it all wrong all these years. Lol. I am a woods dweller. I like "bushcraft" type things but on an old school level. I came here for wilderness type things. Bug out? WTF is that? From what I read I did that years ago. Perhaps the section in question should be renamed "wilderness survival WHILE camping and hiking recreationally"? Just to eliminate confusion because I honestly thought that was the right place to post for woods creatures such as myself. Thanks kev for a decent forum. Some other "bushcrafting" places are so anal,unless of course you make a monetary donation for full access.
02-10-2016 12:08 PM
Arid-Zonnie
I agree

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Originally Posted by Ihatebugs View Post
No offense, kev, but when someone plans to bug out to the woods, hiking and camping is exactly what that entails. And maybe the reason you have to keep moving threads is because you're the only one who doesn't understand that.

I realize you don't think bugging out to the woods is feasible for a family. Maybe it's not. But not all of us have a family. Some of us are lonewolfs, and we think we can pull it off. And whether you think we can or not, that's still our plan and that's what we want to discuss.

You keep moving our threads to the urban section, of all places. We're sure as hell not talking about bugging out to the city. So why would you move these threads to there?
I'm a total nut job, partly because I read through these forums just to see a couple
of good nuggets of good input. Then a few who agree and a bunch who argue. My plan is to bug out to a remote location and hide while civilization destroys itself. Follow up on a ham radio and someday crawl down closer to evaluate the situation, and plan from there. I'm not clear of Kevin's intentions in the post. The term "Wilderness Survival" sounds to me like surviving the "Wilderness". Unless he's talking about wondering off aimlessly into the sticks and surviving...something..? Heck IDK
01-21-2016 07:34 PM
Griz326 >>>AK-47s and AR-15s are not recommended for stopping a bear, so please do not post anything about those firearms here.

Why do you say that?
I've killed bear with a .223.
Here in bear country, you use the gun you have.

Most of us don't take AK or ARs on hikes though unless we're going to do some target practice
01-12-2016 03:36 AM
frankmarc I love camping, but i seldom camp. I am planning camping soon when my friends come back with me.
08-16-2015 10:19 AM
egad51
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Originally Posted by parajarcollective View Post
What's a good way to wear off bugs without over spraying bug spray?
A viable alternative to bug spray is sulfur powder. This is just the element sulfur. It is a yellow powder. You can dust it on your clothing and it will help to repel a number of insects. During my childhood we used it on the farm for chiggers.
08-15-2015 11:57 PM
parajarcollective What's a good way to wear off bugs without over spraying bug spray?
08-11-2015 11:32 PM
HeyLow I laughed at the argument on the first page. Haha!

Personally I was starting to wonder if I had a right to post here in this section what with all the BOB conversations and all. turns out I'm the only one with the right to post here haha!!

....just kidding
07-06-2015 12:20 PM
Morlock I just wanted to point out that I thought it was stupid to warn people not to post in the wrong forum, and warn about how threads in the wrong forum will be moved, without a word about which forum is the right one, and where the threads will be moved to. The forum index is not at all instructive in this regard.
07-01-2015 03:33 PM
Joni [ FIN ] Can you in the USA hiking anywhere in the forest and make a campfire? For example, I hiking somewhere in the woods and then I make a campfire and set up tent. It's that OK? Need the landowner's permission?
05-03-2015 03:22 AM
augoldminer When i go hiking i have two game cameras that i hide covering my truck.

This is just in case anyone wants to break into my truck while i am gone.

Police just love photos of criminals caught in the act.

In some cases if you are hiking in a remote area someone breaking into your vehicle and taking it or disabling it can be life threatening.

In these cases the criminals can face attempted murder charges.
There is case law under the old horse theft laws that stealing someones transportation and leaving hem in danger of dieing can be charged as attempted murder.
The state of Nevada has convicted at least 2 criminals under this charge
03-30-2015 08:52 AM
JJohnsonMtMan Where can I go post and read other members pots on their gear set up? I don't want t flood a forum with unwanted post.
03-08-2015 03:19 PM
thunderbolt180
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i thought this was a camping and hiking thread... but now i feel like picking a fight with someone....
who wants some? :P
j/k actually i need some advice about taking my gf camping.... im used to bringing the bare minimum(i eat what i kill, i wipe with mother nature, ect, ect)... aside from poop paper, food and a tent... does anyone have any advice about what to bring with for chick on a 3 night-4 day camping trip??
I got my wife to go camping with me by getting a butane curling iron
12-28-2014 07:31 PM
Idaho Survivalist Dogs could be bad around wolves, but then it might be nice to be warned of things coming around my camp at night. Haven't decided yet.

As to camping and surviving in the woods, I, also do lots of camping and have been a scout leader. I have been on winter camp-outs and it sure doesn't take much to get wet. Almost every day for the past month I have been hiking around my place. For the past week I have been hiking with a backpack weighing 25 pounds. Last night we got 5 inches of wet snow, and going up and down hills 150 feet in elevation is a bit tiring (good exercise and am I preparing for mountain hiking next summer. I hope to go out every day for about a half mile each morning. Tonight it is supposed to get down to 18 and tomorrow night to 3 degrees. Such cold is better hiking than 30 degrees and snow.

On one scout cam-pout I was on once, a 12-year old slipped on snow while crossing a rushing stream on a log, even though there was a wire within grabbing distance. He fell in with pack and all and our troop had to quickly undress him. Had most youngsters and also most adults been alone in such a situation, hypothermia probably would have killed them.

As I get stronger, I will begin hiking on a nearby loop trail on a lumber company plot of land. Those 1300 acres also have a good series of ups and downs. And in winter snows, I have seen many wolf tracks and black bear sign. I am armed but I continually look behind me and to both sides while I walk up and down tree-laden roads. Even with a rifle, I use caution.

But if I had to go into such areas in a SHTF scenario, I would need to take my wife who does not shoot, and although she walks the 1/2 mile to and from our mailbox most days, she doesn't carry her pack. Hot flashes will curb that idea so I would have to carry most survival supplies. I just hope that if I ever have to escape, it will be during summer or early fall, otherwise I plan on staying home and fighting it out.
12-28-2014 06:32 PM
drago6897kiki
i think it can be mixed

Our bug out location for now is to plqce oj federal land until we get the right piece of property to purchase. As for it being possible...i must disagree there also.
all of my family for as long i can remember have been outdoors type. I was camping before i could walk and my children have been raised the saame way. We do take guns every time we go along with other survival tools. We are much more reliant on bows and knives...guns will be used for a last stand. Bow and arrow can be recycled and very quiet for offencive measures if threatened. We try and practice living off the land as often as we can.
12-27-2014 03:47 PM
TXyakr That sounds like fun adventure hiking in Idaho. I have often wondered how much a dog keeps the wild predators away versus draws them in. In East Texas where few large predators remain some friends and I were camping along the Sabine river in a relatively remote area one night when a pair of puma (mountain lions) screamed back and forth at each other about 30 and 100 yards from where our tents and tarps were. One of us had a labrador dog so it was a question of whether the dog had made them territorial or curious or just the people, or if the puma were just passing through regardless. No beast or human was harmed, it was about 1:30 am and much less of a nuisance than a passing train at a some state parks I have stayed at. Good fun.
12-19-2014 11:30 AM
Idaho Survivalist
hiking and survival

I liked that last post. If you were on the Salmon, you were probably in my county. Remote and roadless country on the upper Salmon!

I hiked a bit since I last posted and have determined that carrying a .30-.30 might be a little too much, so I'll just stick to the bear spray, the .357 and the Shield. I checked with the manufacturers and they do not recommend Buffalo Bore, so I will go for the best standard commercial rounds.

I hike some most every day, sometimes with no pack and sometimes with a day pack. By spring I hope to be hiking with my old North Face backpack and will add more weight each week until I am hiking with what
plan on taking when I take my goal hike this next summer. Snow on the roads will prevent me from going there until late July.

My goal before I get too old to backpack is to hike the 27-mile loop trail in the Seven Devils part of the Hell's Canyon National Recreation area. I am currently on a sort of weigh reduction-change eating habits program and hope to drop 40 more pounds, and the hike is one of the things that keeps me on track.

I have day hiked somethere on short 7-mile jaunts, several years ago. but this will be a lot harder. I will buy the book for hiking in that area. I haven't found anyone near my age who will accompany me, and all the young bucks have day jobs so I will just go with my dog on a leash. He has a bell and that should help scare away bad animals. And he has a great ear and can alert me to things at night.

And as for going down the Salmon, that is some mighty scary water. Some ten years ago I went down from a mile or so above Riggins down to Lucille in a rubber boat and it was scary going through Time Zone Rapids.

I hope times never get bad enough such that I would need to leave my home, but if they do I want to remain within a mile of home. If I have to go farther, hiking in the wilderness may help, as long as my survival leaving is in late spring to early fall. And even then I would only last until my food ran out, or I sprained an ankle, or had any number of nasty things happen to me which easily happen while out in the deep woods.
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