| 11-22-2019 07:39 PM |
| SCPigpen |
my 5 has been pretty good so far.
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| 11-21-2019 05:37 PM |
| DWwolf |
Quote:
Originally Posted by mauser6863
So a couple of things:
1. Red dots are the fastest sights for CQB and mid range, on a AR, 200 yards is probably the practical maximum.
2. Red dots with no power are simply an empty glass tube and useless. So for SHFT or the end of the world, EMP, etc. you are going to need batteries and an EMP or solar event could render them useless. (Unless stored properly).
3. An optic with an etched reticle works whether it has a battery or not. Illuminated reticles are not as fast as a 1x (really 0x) red dots, but they are not too much slower.
That being said, I have a Holosun Red Dot on my AR now and it looks a lot like the SIG Romeo, enough to make me wonder if they are actually made by Holosun for SIG?
The model I have has a Chevron instead of the dot and has the "65 MOA Donut of Death", like the Eotechs have, for CQB. I like this better as the chevron point is an infinite point and won't obscure the target like a dot will. The Chevron also gets you from 50 to 300 meters (yards), which is nice on a rifle. The ACSS reticle also has ranging dots from 400 yards up to 600 yards, but you really need a swing away magnifier ($100+) to use these, unless you have excellent vision.
Here's a picture of the ACSS reticle. You can find a ton of YouTube videos detailing this, as well.
The Holosun looks pretty close to the Romeo and they both have the auto-shut-off feature.
[IMG]Holosun Paralow HS503G Red Dot Sight - ACSS CQB Reticle[/IMG]
Holosun Paralow HS503G Red Dot Sight - ACSS CQB Reticle
SIG Romeo
Holosun also makes all of the Primary Arms Optics for them. This also includes their 3X and 5X Prism with dots. These are the best of both worlds for some, as they have the etched reticle, that works with dead batteries or you can illuminate them like a red dot.
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Solar event =/ EMP.
Solar will affect power lines and potentially everything connected directly.
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| 11-21-2019 05:27 PM |
| DWwolf |
Quote:
Originally Posted by mauser6863
So a couple of things:
1. Red dots are the fastest sights for CQB and mid range, on a AR, 200 yards is probably the practical maximum.
2. Red dots with no power are simply an empty glass tube and useless. So for SHFT or the end of the world, EMP, etc. you are going to need batteries and an EMP or solar event could render them useless. (Unless stored properly).
3. An optic with an etched reticle works whether it has a battery or not. Illuminated reticles are not as fast as a 1x (really 0x) red dots, but they are not too much slower.
That being said, I have a Holosun Red Dot on my AR now and it looks a lot like the SIG Romeo, enough to make me wonder if they are actually made by Holosun for SIG?
The model I have has a Chevron instead of the dot and has the "65 MOA Donut of Death", like the Eotechs have, for CQB. I like this better as the chevron point is an infinite point and won't obscure the target like a dot will. The Chevron also gets you from 50 to 300 meters (yards), which is nice on a rifle. The ACSS reticle also has ranging dots from 400 yards up to 600 yards, but you really need a swing away magnifier ($100+) to use these, unless you have excellent vision.
Here's a picture of the ACSS reticle. You can find a ton of YouTube videos detailing this, as well.
The Holosun looks pretty close to the Romeo and they both have the auto-shut-off feature.
[IMG]Holosun Paralow HS503G Red Dot Sight - ACSS CQB Reticle[/IMG]
Holosun Paralow HS503G Red Dot Sight - ACSS CQB Reticle
SIG Romeo
Holosun also makes all of the Primary Arms Optics for them. This also includes their 3X and 5X Prism with dots. These are the best of both worlds for some, as they have the etched reticle, that works with dead batteries or you can illuminate them like a red dot.
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Solar event =/ EMP.
Solar will affect power lines and potentially everything connected directly.
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| 11-19-2019 04:13 PM |
| ajole |
Quote:
Originally Posted by recklessdriver
Trigger lock ?
Yeah I put mine on my blackout as well.
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I have a lot of guns out on racks, and I also have grandkids around every so often. So ANY gun that isn't on me or secured in a safe gets a trigger lock.
I usually use the combo models, but I figured with the 300 BO, another level of "hey, this isn't just another AR" would be good..
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| 11-19-2019 01:50 PM |
| mefunkymxw |
i have primary arms (holosun), trijicon MROs, aimpoint compm4s, and also have a couple of sig romeo 5s....
near as i can tell the holosuns and sigs hold zero and have pretty good heat resistance (have one on a IWI gallil pistol gas rail)... ive had good luck with them, but that is not to say that they will hold up as well as a trijicon or aimpoint in a heavy use/impact test.
id generally trust my life to the decent budget red dots (like the holosun or sig) since i am not gonna be jumping out of chinooks or aussie rappeling down vertical cliffs with em.
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| 11-17-2019 07:58 AM |
| recklessdriver |
Quote:
Originally Posted by ajole
Same setup for me. 300 BO.
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Trigger lock ?
Yeah I put mine on my blackout as well.
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| 11-15-2019 01:15 PM |
| RedTail |
Quote:
Originally Posted by RedTail
For a range toy it doesn't matter. For something you may bet your life on..... I'd consider Aimpoint Pro an excellent budget SHTF red dot. It's a little heavy, but will likely outlive your rifle barrel. They are truly tough. You can find em on ebay for under $300.
This one still works after a fire that destroyed the rifle it's on. I'd still put back up irons on every rifle JIC.
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Picked up a Holosun 503R (left). It's a chinese copy of the ampoint micro (right). Have to say on the surface I like it better than the T2/H2 with the exception that it doesn't have caps. What it does have is a circle dot reticle that is significantly crisper than eotech's in a smaller lighter package. The glass is nice. Only a very slight blue tint. No distortion and almost no parallax at 50yds. The rheostat is smoother with crisper detents than aimpoint. The windage and elevation are stiff, but have crisp detents.
Not saying it's better than an aimpoint. Durability of aimpoint is a known quantity. This holosun has no track record to stand on. They strap a lot of bells and whistles to optics these days. Auto on, auto off, auto brightness, solar, etc. The auto brightness on RMRs is nice, but I see all this stuff as more to break. I picked this model because it has the same simplicity as the aimpoint. If it proves durable, then it's an awesome RDS for the money, but that remains to be seen. At this point I wouldn't bet my life on it.
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| 11-13-2019 08:17 PM |
| ColoradoMinuteMan |
Quote:
Originally Posted by dmas
Red dots flair like that due to astigmatism. That holosun model is supposed to one of the best if you have astigmatism.
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I have an astigmatism and also get the “flaring” from the reticle but also understand what he’s talking about the rear lighting flare. That is more of a “camera” flare type of thing where the light shines into the ocular lens and reflects off the internal surfaces of the optic. I also had that happen with the Sig Romeo. I believe it’s due to having virtually no rim around the ocular lens and your head being too far back to block then sun from entering. I’m not sure if this is an issue in other red dots but I experienced it on my Sig Romeo. Otherwise I do like it. It won’t win any feature competitions but it’s simple, has good battery life, holds zero, has auto on and off. I co-witness with my iron sites so if It takes a dump I can still get the job done.
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| 11-11-2019 10:58 PM |
| ajole |
Quote:
Originally Posted by clc79092
I have a Romeo5 on an AR pistol with a brace 10.5 in barrel. I like it. Keeps a zero. Makes hitting what I want dirt simple. Co-witnesses with iron sights also.
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Same setup for me. 300 BO.
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| 11-11-2019 07:57 PM |
| dmas |
Quote:
Originally Posted by DamnYankee
I tried 2 Romeo 5's. Returned them both due to a pretty bad flaring issue I'd get when lighting was to my rear while shooting. It was bad enough to distract me from the dot in certain conditions. I ended up getting a Holosun HS510C and I love it.
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Red dots flair like that due to astigmatism. That holosun model is supposed to one of the best if you have astigmatism.
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| 11-11-2019 01:14 PM |
| clc79092 |
I have a Romeo5 on an AR pistol with a brace 10.5 in barrel. I like it. Keeps a zero. Makes hitting what I want dirt simple. Co-witnesses with iron sights also.
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| 11-06-2019 08:40 PM |
| browningv308 |
I have the Romeo on my Sig MPX kicks A on that platform Also have a Daniel Defense v7 with the Trigicon SRS. The SRS is a little large but it's supper fast
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| 10-15-2019 12:27 PM |
| ajole |
Quote:
Originally Posted by mauser6863
Here's my Holosun with the ACSS Reticle.
My buddy had a 3x Nikon AR specific scope and it worked too. You could see more of what you were aiming at, but not a huge difference at that range.
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I also have the 3X Nikon and the PA 3X ACSS unit. The ACSS is faster, IMHO, but the Nikon reticle is better for fine work, and won't suffer from flare or my astigmatism
Both require no batteries, but the Nikon was cheaper.
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| 10-15-2019 09:51 AM |
| Marlin94 |
Holosun makes nice red dots that work and can be trusted. they make the Romeo 5 and the PA red dots as well. They have a 5 year battery life which is much higher than a vortex sparc and its mere 300 hours which is only 12 days. You should always have a backup iron sight regardless of the optic you're running.
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| 10-15-2019 07:52 AM |
| recklessdriver |
Holosun and romeo 5 are the same thing....
They work and budget minded.... I would say it's more then budget but entry level. Love mine works well and while it's not a 500 dollar aimpoint it works and I didnt need to take a second mortgage to buy top shelf optics on everything.
Emp..... ok well I'll take my chances on that because well it pretty slim chance. Economic collaspe is coming so that wont effect it either.
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| 10-15-2019 07:11 AM |
| 0002S |
If what you can afford there are worse choices. If you’re able to wait and or save then I’d choose a Trijicon or Aimpoint.
Another option is a 1-4x variable.
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| 10-14-2019 08:45 PM |
| neiowa |
Quote:
Originally Posted by StoneWallAdam
What is your life worth? Budget SHTF?
We have an Aimpoint and several trijicon products that we would use to keep us and our kids safe if SHTF.
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And they are not made by the enemies of the US. Holson, Primary Arms are PLA in chicomland.
Arm HK
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| 10-11-2019 02:08 PM |
| Chili |
I have both the romeo 5 and holosun and like them equally. Both have the shake awake feature.
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| 10-09-2019 05:26 PM |
| michaelc246 |
I've had a Romeo 5 on one of my rifles for about a year now, and I've been really impressed with. It seems pretty high quality for the price, and I haven't had any problems with it. Love the auto on/auto off feature too! Hope this helps you out.
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| 08-18-2018 07:06 PM |
| StoneWallAdam |
Quote:
Originally Posted by jppaul16441
Anyone using one of these? Just wondering what you think of them?
Would they make a good budget SHTF red dot?
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What is your life worth? Budget SHTF?
We have an Aimpoint and several trijicon products that we would use to keep us and our kids safe if SHTF.
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