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04-13-2020 07:21 AM
commandpriority
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Originally Posted by NCalHippie View Post
Actually, most of the explosions were from super-heated pine trees exploding. There were explosions way before the fire ever reached the town. We had at least 6-8 20# tanks in our yard and none of them exploded.

That said, we did have one explode in the Saddle Fire the year before, it blew my propane grill all over the place. The others again remained intact.
Yea the pine tree thing was weird too. I do know a few of my #20 blew (that shed was toast) and yet I had wavian gas cans simply bulge. So much of that fire was weird.
04-08-2020 02:42 PM
NCalHippie
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Originally Posted by commandpriority View Post
I can attest to this as well. November 8, 2018 in Paradise, CA. Many propane tanks blew that day. They were quite impressive to hear. Not something I will forget.
Actually, most of the explosions were from super-heated pine trees exploding. There were explosions way before the fire ever reached the town. We had at least 6-8 20# tanks in our yard and none of them exploded.

That said, we did have one explode in the Saddle Fire the year before, it blew my propane grill all over the place. The others again remained intact.
04-08-2020 02:17 PM
commandpriority
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Originally Posted by NW GUY View Post
RE- PROPANE TANKS

ABOUT 30 years ago we had a bad forest fire going. We had received our prepare to evacuate warning from local SD and it really just depended upon a little spit of wetland as to which way it was going to go.

We were lucky, it went the other side.
ANYWAY it has been raging for hours and all of a sudden a blast booms out coming through the trees. THen they come almost regular, boom, 10 minutes boom, went on for about 6 booms, them a HUGE BOOM.

The fire was running a string of little cabins and the booms were the 100 pound tanks blowing. Then the fire made it to a 500 pounder. Very impressive the energy a propane tank has in it.
They were over 3 miles away through the woods and it was still impressive.
Closest the fire came to burning us out was about 1/4 mile through the trees but thanks to a high water table there was a fair amount of wetland it had to negotiate in our area and it kept it away.
I can attest to this as well. November 8, 2018 in Paradise, CA. Many propane tanks blew that day. They were quite impressive to hear. Not something I will forget.
04-08-2020 11:24 AM
IceFire We're out here in AZ, and yes, it gets HOT! Just about everyone here (at least outside of the cities) has propane tanks. Yes, painted white, and sitting in full sun. No issues.
04-08-2020 04:59 AM
~Black.Dog~ It's safe as can be as is. They are usually painted white, silverish or other light colors so they don't absorb as much heat as they would in a darker color.
They are designed to be able to sit in full sun on even the hottest days.
Drive by your local propane dealer and look at their tank farm. All out in the open, even the huge main tanks.

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04-08-2020 03:13 AM
bill460 You might just try wrapping it in one of those thin foil, "Space Blankets". They're cheap, waterproof, and work well at reflecting light and heat.
04-07-2020 08:13 PM
bugbor
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Originally Posted by Momof5inTX View Post
We bought our house 2 years ago and it has a 100 gallon tank in the back yard. It is in good condition, no rust or flaking paint. It is not in shade, so I am thinking of putting a canopy over it to keep the sun off. It's about 20 feet from the exterior wall of the house. Anything else I need to do to make it safer?
Probably wouldn't hurt but I don't think it's really necessary.
And welcome to the board.
04-07-2020 01:04 PM
Momof5inTX We bought our house 2 years ago and it has a 100 gallon tank in the back yard. It is in good condition, no rust or flaking paint. It is not in shade, so I am thinking of putting a canopy over it to keep the sun off. It's about 20 feet from the exterior wall of the house. Anything else I need to do to make it safer?
01-08-2020 10:39 AM
Ballenxj
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Originally Posted by bill460 View Post
I didn't see that. That is a damn shame. He sounded like a very knowledgeable guy.
When it came to using propane, he was a wealth of information.
He will be missed.
01-08-2020 09:24 AM
bill460
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Originally Posted by Ballenxj View Post
My understanding is that rule includes all tanks, cylinders, and most likely especially those little bottles due to their lesser build quality.
Old soldier wont be able to answer, as he passed away around three years ago. See post 45 this thread.
I didn't see that. That is a damn shame. He sounded like a very knowledgeable guy.
01-08-2020 07:54 AM
Ballenxj
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Originally Posted by bill460 View Post
Just to be clear when you say, "80% max fill" I assume you are talking about large underground, and / or large permanent tanks that supply an entire residence with propane. And not 20 and 30 pound portable tanks for barbecues and portable heaters?
My understanding is that rule includes all tanks, cylinders, and most likely especially those little bottles due to their lesser build quality.
Old soldier wont be able to answer, as he passed away around three years ago. See post 45 this thread.
01-08-2020 06:59 AM
bill460
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Originally Posted by Old Soldier View Post
80% is an industry standard "max" fill.
Just to be clear when you say, "80% max fill" I assume you are talking about large underground, and / or large permanent tanks that supply an entire residence with propane. And not 20 and 30 pound portable tanks for barbecues and portable heaters?

All of the newer propane tanks have automatic shutoff valves that will not allow them to be overfilled. So there is always some space in the tank to allow for cold / hot temperature expansion.

Here in Lake Havasu City we have some of the hottest Summer temperatures in the nation. In June and July it is not uncommon to have 120F degree highs. While this time of year it may not get to 60F. And there are very few propane related fires or accidents.

I know that most all of the exchange tank outfits like Blue Rhino and Amerigas, purposely short fill their tanks. (You end up paying for a full tank, but only get 15 or so pounds on a short fill).

While this may be done to prevent expansion in hot weather. It's most likely done for profitability. Because most all the people like myself, who own their own tanks get full refills. (Or until the shutoff valve activates, and the flow meter stops, allowing it to vent out of the screw). And we do not have any issues going from Winter to Summer storage.
06-14-2018 11:40 PM
Gunnut491
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Originally Posted by Old Soldier View Post
Tony while I agree that it doesn't always need replaced, here in Texas where it routinely hits the high 90's for long periods of time, once they go they're pretty much done. 80% is our max fill but in the summer on older tanks we cut the max fill back to 70%.
Do you ever see this problem with small BBQ size tanks?
04-05-2018 01:43 PM
Redlineshooter my condolences to the family and to the people who knew old soldier personally..

I think most lpg tanks are rated to 100+ Celsius

It takes a forest fire in 300-3000 degrees will destroy them..

typical tanks i recommend would fall within the above ground tanks your local petrol stations has..

as for the tanks generally used in homes when i was a kid typically ran about the same size as what you would use oxygen bottle for an oxy welding setup and typically mounted on the outside of them home in a set of 2-4 lasting 2-3 month's cooking and water boiling..

typical 1's used in the rv industries aren't within the realm of of home use and should not be store inside your home same with the 1's meant for domestic where you don't have mains gas supply..

though if you are wanting something within the 2-5 years type supply you are looking at very large industrial tanks..
03-29-2018 04:51 PM
Ballenxj
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Originally Posted by Bob3rd View Post
I never knew his real name but some on here knew him personally. He is greatly missed.
I'm glad this thread is stuck so his memory will live on.
03-29-2018 04:37 PM
Bob3rd
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Originally Posted by Ballenxj View Post
WOW! That's so sad.
Do you have his real name? He was such a wealth of information.
Thank You for passing this sad news on.
I never knew his real name but some on here knew him personally. He is greatly missed.
03-29-2018 11:38 AM
Ballenxj
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Originally Posted by Bob3rd View Post
Just a word of note, Old Soldier passed away 11/2017, he can't answer give insightful info now.
WOW! That's so sad.
Do you have his real name? He was such a wealth of information.
Thank You for passing this sad news on.
03-29-2018 11:03 AM
Bob3rd Just a word of note, Old Soldier passed away 11/2017, he can't answer give insightful info now.
03-29-2018 09:06 AM
NW GUY RE- PROPANE TANKS

ABOUT 30 years ago we had a bad forest fire going. We had received our prepare to evacuate warning from local SD and it really just depended upon a little spit of wetland as to which way it was going to go.

We were lucky, it went the other side.
ANYWAY it has been raging for hours and all of a sudden a blast booms out coming through the trees. THen they come almost regular, boom, 10 minutes boom, went on for about 6 booms, them a HUGE BOOM.

The fire was running a string of little cabins and the booms were the 100 pound tanks blowing. Then the fire made it to a 500 pounder. Very impressive the energy a propane tank has in it.
They were over 3 miles away through the woods and it was still impressive.
Closest the fire came to burning us out was about 1/4 mile through the trees but thanks to a high water table there was a fair amount of wetland it had to negotiate in our area and it kept it away.
02-05-2018 10:16 AM
Brettny Hey old soldier do you know the distance a 100lb dot tank has to be away from a basement window, ac condensor and normal window?
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