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01-11-2020 09:49 AM
SheepDog68
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Originally Posted by strokes762 View Post
I liked my Zippo when I smoked. I've since quit, but I never considered it for a survival lighter as it always evaporated on me. I'll stick to bics, matches and the classic flint/steel combo.
The reason I believe itís a viable choice is because itís not affected by altitude or cold!

Yeah it does evaporate over time, but as a non sealed system altitude doesnít mess it up! Probably not a big deal if you live in Florida, but start playing with altitude and that changes!

Ok so it evaporates! If youíre a church goer fill it up each week before you drop it in the pocket of your dress pants! If not find some other weekly reminder for a top off! Pulling it apart and filling it through the hole in the felt truly takes seconds and youíre good to go. Oh and as Iím sure most already know throw a flint or two under the felt and youíre likely to be making fire long after the lessor options have turned toes up!

SD
01-09-2020 08:04 PM
strokes762 I liked my Zippo when I smoked. I've since quit, but I never considered it for a survival lighter as it always evaporated on me. I'll stick to bics, matches and the classic flint/steel combo.
01-09-2020 06:38 PM
Stinky It's tough for me to say, I don't really use my lighter daily, it's more of a backup. When I carried it daily I filled it about once a month.
Now I pack a mini Bic on my key chain.
I wrapped the lower half of the mini with a couple turns of duct tape and smooshed the inch of tape that hung off the bottom of the mini. I then used a hole punch to make a hole so I could put the mini on my key chain. I've been doing that for 3yrs now. When I go camping I also pack my waterproof zippo with the inner tube seal.
01-09-2020 06:17 PM
PeterEnergy
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Originally Posted by Stinky View Post
I use a 1in piece of bicycle inner tube to seal my zippo. Roll it up to seal and roll down to open and light.
How effective is that? Does the fuel last a week? A month?
01-09-2020 05:00 PM
Stinky I use a 1in piece of bicycle inner tube to seal my zippo. Roll it up to seal and roll down to open and light.
01-09-2020 03:02 PM
Eddie_T I still can't find my trusty Zippo that I carried in the army and through college. I know it's here somewhere for I am not known to toss anything. It may be boxed with my tobacco pipes which I also can't find. I wanted to experiment with methods to seal it, in particular adding a thin fitted seal in the bottom of the case.

My permanent match from China hasn't arrived either.
01-09-2020 01:55 PM
Sanderhawk I bought a 4 pack of Bics years ago and they all still work just fine.
01-09-2020 12:47 PM
teddyearp So after having one of those covers that bunkerbuster linked to for a couple of months, I've got to say that my Zippo is really much better. It has four wheel drive switchable to AWD when needed. It will help me sustain an off and on running gun battle for months at a time. It is accurate out to 600 yards. Adjustable to flame thrower and hand warmer.

Nope. With one of those covers, the Zippo is all one needs now for wilderness survival.








Seriously though, they are pretty neat. Fuel lasts a month or more now. It does make it harder to light sometimes and the fit is really tight, making it difficult to remove the lighter to refuel it.
11-22-2019 01:08 PM
Uncle Billy I don't know about you, but that first drag off a Lucky Strike or Camel lit by a Zippo is amazing.
11-20-2019 08:27 PM
clc79092 I have one of those new aftermarket cases. Been sitting on dresser for a week so far. Will check it after 4 weeks then 2 months.
11-20-2019 02:01 PM
merlinfire hey bunkerbuster, i know it hasn't had much time for testing, but how's evaporation so far? most people i talk to say the standard zippo lasts maybe 2-3 weeks before dry. do we have any experiences or knowledge of how long these aftermarket shells are making it last?
10-28-2019 07:56 AM
Enforcer Had to chuckle while reading thru this thread; I'm in the Zippo camp. Kinda "old skool" but what do I know?








Here's a little video I made Saturday night after a slew of thunderstorms passed thru. I couldn't get the video to embed, so here's the link, enjoy

Why I Prefer Zippo Lighters for camping and Survival


Best Regards

Rod
10-26-2019 12:57 PM
Eddie_T Just for kicks I ordered one of those permanent match lighters for $1.25. I had one years ago and they throw a shower of sparks. My experience with it was that is always seemed to be dry. I want to play with it a bit to see if it might have some use.
10-26-2019 04:57 AM
Tactical Lever
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Originally Posted by Revmgt View Post
I have a zippo, a dispenser of flints and a bottle of lighter fluid in a ziplock bag in my main pack. The lighter came with extra wick material under the cotton flap. When I smoked a bottle would last more than a year and that was lighting 20-30 cigarettes a day.
I figure whatís in my pack will last longer than a person would likely survive if things ever got so bad you couldnít get another bottle.

I think sometimes people overthink things. Zippos still exist because theyíre durable and reliable, itís one of the few products that was 98% perfect from the day it was first made.
I just "improved" the Star that I carry. Found that the packing that they use now is rayon, and not very flammable. By replacing the packing with cotton ball, you can fluff it out a bit and still light it up, with the spark wheel, even if your fuel has run dry.

Couldn't find petroleum jelly in the house; I was going to put a little around the edge of the insert to slow evaporation, but I did melt some wax around it. Cleaned it a little, trimmed the wick and pulled it out a bit more. Thought about getting a spare, but the wick is long enough to be trimmed several more times. Changed the flint, while I was fooling around with it, didn't tighten the screw up too much, so it's easy to do if needed again, and put the old flint plus 2 new ones under the flap for spares.

Also put a small wad of cotton in the top corner of the lid, with a drop of hand sanitizer. I've taken to carrying a little pitch and some homemade fire starter, and added a couple birthday candles to my watch pocket. I usually carry a small vial of lighter fluid about half the size of a regular sized Star, or Zippo as well.

Couple small additions really makes for a very reliable fire starting system IMO.
10-25-2019 08:10 AM
Revmgt I have a zippo, a dispenser of flints and a bottle of lighter fluid in a ziplock bag in my main pack. The lighter came with extra wick material under the cotton flap. When I smoked a bottle would last more than a year and that was lighting 20-30 cigarettes a day.
I figure whatís in my pack will last longer than a person would likely survive if things ever got so bad you couldnít get another bottle.

I think sometimes people overthink things. Zippos still exist because theyíre durable and reliable, itís one of the few products that was 98% perfect from the day it was first made.
10-25-2019 12:44 AM
Eddie_T And Zippo has that lifetime guarantee.
10-25-2019 12:16 AM
teddyearp Sold! Well, one at least. Gotta try before one buys in bulk.
10-24-2019 09:00 PM
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10-14-2019 01:27 PM
Tactical Lever Kind of funny that we have an argument going on about the merits of a cheap disposable, non refillable, non repairable, vs. a multi-fuel, serviceable, that could be passed on to the next generation...

Bic are okay. Much like the cheap clear body pens, they do a good job of non critical work. I'll say that it is somewhat less common to get a dud, but it happens. Seals fail, or a seam leaks, and that is the end of it. Not wind proof in the slightest, and challenging to keep going due to ergonomic restraints, while adding material or getting the flame in the right spot occasionally.

Found that Zippo style lighters are much more forgiving in the wind, and when it's challenging to get a fire going. I don't believe that I have any Zippo brand lighters, but the Star lighters are very similar and work well. Adding fuel isn't really a draw back, more of a maintenance. Just like flashlight batteries. Melting a little candle wax around the edge of the insert seems to help. When I go out, I usually have a little extra fuel. It's easy to carry a small UTS(?) vial. Or a small lighter fluid dispenser.

I also like the small peanut style lighters that look like a large stainless pill. They aren't quite as wind proof, but with the o-ring top, they are water proof, and have used one to start a fire, having not filled it for about 4 months.

I always have lighter fluid in the door pockets of my vehicles, but if I am in the vehicle, I can use gas, or other fluids, or a mixture of fluids in a pinch.

I used to think pretty highly of a piezo sparked micro torch that I carried hunting, camping, and exploring. I would also carry a spare Ronson style lighter as a refill for it as well. It was a good tool, but I recognized that it could quit. A little moisture in the wrong spot could mess it up for while. Finally the ignition quit, and that was it. Also carried a few refillable jet lighters, but eventually they seem to quit, or leak.

Read an article on a survival Zippo in Backwoodsman, and I did kind of dismiss it at the time. I've come to realize that I took the simplicity and durability of these lighters for granted. Now, more often than not I'll find that I tend to slip a Star into my watch pocket as part of EDC.
10-14-2019 07:03 AM
SheepDog68 Man if you guys put half this much energy and effort into maintaining your equipment there wouldnít be any issues or questions about if a zippo will work for you or not!

Iíve never smoked and yet carry a Zippo every winter and have for years! Itís a piece of gear that will work in pretty much any temperature and at any altitude. It is also very unlikely to rupture on you since itís not sealed!

Itís made out of real stuff in this country and designed to last for a very long time!

You ďpayĒ for these advantages with regular fueling and minimal maintenance.

SD
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