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10-02-2019 05:39 AM
IntroC I haven’t noticed anything. Scientists these days are on the same level as politicians in my book. Paid off hacks. Climate change is a good example. A scientist can say anything and us “commoners” are supposed to just believe and buy into it.
09-27-2019 09:31 AM
Israel Putnam
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I think Jimfrom28 Days brought up a hugely significant point. A friend drove across the corn and wheat belt in spring without having to wash his windshield . When I was a kid I remember helping wash the car every weekend and there were always splattered squashed bug bodies . Some one or two day drives would warrant a wash just to clean up the bugs . Now I can drive months without accumulating nary a bug to wash off. I live in a rural area and think I could count the bugs I wash off on maybe one hand in a summer .
I drove 150 miles this morning to where I’m waiting now to get unloaded in Eastern PA.
It was 46 degrees when I left.
By the time I got here it was 70 and I cleaned my windshield when I got here.

Might I inquire what kind of vehicle you drive?
Modern aerodynamics might be a factor?
09-27-2019 12:56 AM
ajole
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Originally Posted by Hilltopper View Post
I think Jimfrom28 Days brought up a hugely significant point. A friend drove across the corn and wheat belt in spring without having to wash his windshield . When I was a kid I remember helping wash the car every weekend and there were always splattered squashed bug bodies . Some one or two day drives would warrant a wash just to clean up the bugs . Now I can drive months without accumulating nary a bug to wash off. I live in a rural area and think I could count the bugs I wash off on maybe one hand in a summer .
Come over here, we’ll spatter your paint with bug guts.
09-26-2019 11:08 PM
Hilltopper I think Jimfrom28 Days brought up a hugely significant point. A friend drove across the corn and wheat belt in spring without having to wash his windshield . When I was a kid I remember helping wash the car every weekend and there were always splattered squashed bug bodies . Some one or two day drives would warrant a wash just to clean up the bugs . Now I can drive months without accumulating nary a bug to wash off. I live in a rural area and think I could count the bugs I wash off on maybe one hand in a summer .
09-26-2019 08:41 PM
vivisky I haven't read the study, but the title seems a bit "alarmist" and my instinct is to take all such "scientific studies" with a huge grain of salt.
There will always be changes in population numbers of all species. The only thing not changing on the planet is the total mass of the Earth and all of its species of flora & fauna & all the water. Dust to dust, and when it becomes alive again, it is never the same....
09-26-2019 07:02 PM
ksmedman I always figured it was the wind farms.
We coyote hunt on a wind farm, the 'yotes come in to eat all the dead birds under the windmills.

Locally though, we have a ton of birds. Still the huge clouds of starlings? over the fields, and thousands of grackles on the power lines.
We have blue jays in our yard daily, same with cardinals, as well as all the regular wrens, sparrows etc... I think we have a Carolina Wren that visits occasionally. Cool little bird.
We also have a pair of Eurasian Collard Doves live in our pine tree out front, and had an Eastern Screech Owl in our other tree out front a couple nights ago.
Had Barn Owls in our Catalpa tree maybe three years ago. The hummers are pretty rare, but we haven't put out a feeder in a while.

I'm glad though, we really enjoy them.
09-26-2019 06:40 PM
WX4SNO
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YOU KILL just for fun, To bad the critters you kill for fun cant shoot back, Straight to ignore.
I thought the same thing...people like that are the ones that usually end up as sociopaths and go on to murder more intelligent "prey"... AKA humans. Sickening!
09-26-2019 06:32 PM
FoxtrotVictor1 I don't see a decline so much as we've seen a change. The Bluejays, Grackles, and Humming birds are now rare.

However, we're flush with Cardinals, Woodpeckers, tons of English Sparrows, and during the day we hear the screech of hawks, and at night there has to be at least three owls judging by the direction of sound... sometimes answering each other.

Monarch Butterflies are rare here in western Ohio, where we did have plenty of them 30 years ago.
09-26-2019 06:01 PM
mistergorkman About ten year ago the crows, blackbirds, starlings and grackles would darken the skies from one horizon to the other near the Missouri river on my daily commute, and the woods behind my house was deafening when they roosted there by the millions. Literally.

Then the avian flu came along and wiped them all out. That's how nature deals with overpopulation.

They're coming back now.

Bird populations are cyclical, but there is no money to be made pretending it's not a crisis.
09-26-2019 01:55 PM
roseman This.
I would expect that global warming fanatics are involved in anything where a decrease or increase in something has been deemed harmful to life as we know it.
09-26-2019 12:04 AM
Jim in Illinois I don't trust peer-reviewed journals the first thing I check is who funded the study. To much "science" is just faking results to get funding.
09-25-2019 11:21 PM
Old fart I remember huge flocks of birds migrating on the Mississippi River flyway when I was a kid. Also huge gaggles of geese and lots of ducks in/around the lakes in Minneapolis.

I don't see either the migrating birds in the numbers I used to, or the number of geese and ducks

OTOH, fewer birds means less bird poop to step in
09-25-2019 04:13 PM
franklin Very species dependent. Some are being decimated by invasive diseases like West Nile and others are flourishing like Canadian Geese.
09-24-2019 08:26 PM
hawgy54 Here in ETex we had quail everywhere in the 60's, no fire ants. Fire ants attack ground nests. Quail have almost disappeared, and dove populations have also dwindled. I also cant help but wonder how much satellite transmissions as well as cell towers impact the wildlife. Hell, I think they even irradiate us humans to some extent, especially those that live close to towers. There is even some evidence that smart meters operate at frequencies that work on the subconscious mind.
Yeah, I know Im a lunatic, but Im a happy lunatic and dont trust them mo-fo's ANY!!
09-24-2019 06:45 PM
Hoka-hey Plenty of birds around me but my property butts against neighbor tree groves.
Also between the wife's flower gardens and our wild prairie (maybe 1/4 acre) we see a lot of bird and insect activity. Humingbirds bees an occasional fox will lay down in our backyard and feel at home.
Deer turkey ect walk through the yard.
SHTF and I'll be eating good.

Miles away are restored wetlands and they are finding birds coming there that are on the endangered list.
09-24-2019 06:18 PM
Ready?mom When we moved here in the 90’s I loved watching the bats flying in the evening. A few years ago they disappeared. I haven’t seen one. We also had owls, jack rabbits, opossums, herons and even badgers occasionally. Every pond had turtles and bullfrogs. Now I see a jackrabbit every couple of months. No turtles ever. We have lots crows and a few blue jays. Our neighborhood hasn’t changed, they’re just gone. Even bees. Colony collapse is very common the last few years.
09-24-2019 06:07 PM
RichardinColorado The decline of the bird population apparently doesn't apply to the Humming birds in our area. Every summer we are inundated with the little guys. This summer we went through 100 lbs of sugar while we contributed to their beak decay. It's not unusual for us to have between 30-40 of the little noise makers buzzing around our three feeders. The other species around here seem as plentiful as ever and the deer are so numerous that it's hard to grow a garden they won't eat!
09-24-2019 02:25 PM
Colt I'm extremely skeptical of their numbers. A drop that massive should be extremely obvious to older people. As far as I've seen we appear to have tons of birds. It's hard to imagine supporting a higher number without them starving or humans intentionally feeding them. Is there some other part of the country that used to be swarming but is now devoid of birds? I have a feeling their numbers are exaggerated.

But regardless the formula for a reduction in birds is clear.

Social Justice = Race To Be The Least Normal = More People Unattractive To The Opposite Gender = More People Unable/Unwilling To Find Mates Of Opposite Gender = Less People With Children = More Cat Ladies = More Cats = Less Birds.

So Social Justice is causing birds to go extinct.
09-24-2019 01:11 PM
Rural Buckeye Guy Yeah, me too. For all my hatred of starlings and coyotes, we go through a couple #50 bags of bird seed and a dozen or more fat blocks each winter at the property and the house. Great kitty TV.
09-24-2019 09:43 AM
Herd Sniper You know, if you listen to the climate changing people, there's ALWAYS a shortage of XXXX or a dying off of YYYY groups of animals, fish or Tasmanian Orcs. Then they blame these drastic/dramatic changes on man, mankind or pollution caused by people in the U.S. while "nicely forgetting" that Asia and the Indian sub-continent pollute the planet a thousand times worse than we do. In law enforcement we used to call that "selective memory." In the paratroopers we called that "being dumber than a box of rocks."

All of these drama schemes are followed by the usual request meant to separate you from your money to, "...help us fight the causes of all these XXXX going into extinction." So basically, what you're looking at is a neatly wrapped scam, with some letters behind the names of the scam artists, presenting it to you.
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