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08-25-2019 08:19 PM
Sharkbait
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Originally Posted by PeterEnergy View Post
Support American troops in the muzzle theater. That way, they don't play Islam at a theater near you.
I already give plenty to. Gov.
That guy seemed rather effective
I'd like to send some money to whatever freaks are blowing up muzzies.
08-25-2019 12:29 PM
Mule Skinner
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Originally Posted by PeterEnergy View Post
Of course the Anti-God Statist's disagree! Fact is, the US has had an office of the chaplain since its inception. What does that tell you about the FF view on the Separation of Church and State?
There are always people who want THEIR religion to have preference,
and want to squash the others. This used to be common in Europe,
which in fact was the reason for some of the early immigration to
North America. Today you can find examples of this in Afghanistan
and Saudi Arabia.

Indeed, among Muslims there is Sunni intolerance of Shiites.
Denominational intolerance happened among Christians as well.
The Catholic Church would not sanction a marriage where
one party was Catholic but the other was Christian by not Catholic.
08-25-2019 08:58 AM
PeterEnergy
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Originally Posted by dontbuypotteryfromme View Post
Not as much as people want to believe to support their own agenda. But yeah. Moderates not nut jobs.
Liberty is not moderate. Truth is not moderate.
08-25-2019 08:57 AM
PeterEnergy
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This is the problem Peter, there is no victory. We can not eliminate a religion and it's culture. It's not possible.
Never heard of the Confederacy in the US? Militant culture is Sparta and Japan?

How about the Zoroastrianism religion in Iran? How about Arianism religion in the Mediterranean?

Not only is it possible, it has been done many times!
08-25-2019 03:08 AM
dontbuypotteryfromme
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Originally Posted by dontbuypotteryfromme View Post
The more liberal the ideology is the better it will fit in with western civilization.
Agreed - provided you mean Classic Liberalism, promoting liberty and equal rights in a pluralistic society and NOT totalitarian communism, Leftism, that often usurps the word. [IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.survivalistboards.com/images/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG]
Not as much as people want to believe to support their own agenda. But yeah. Moderates not nut jobs.
08-25-2019 12:15 AM
zumhug
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This is the problem Peter, there is no victory. We can not eliminate a religion and it's culture. It's not possible. We would have to kill them all. Not a realistic goal. We don't need the middle East and their oil. Let them be.

Israel uses us for our strength to push their own agenda in the region. They are fully capable of taking care of their own. Why should my Countrymen die for Israel? 1 American Life is worth more than 10, 100, 1000 or a million Israeli lives; they are not my Countrymen.


The countries of the middle East cannot touch us , any myth to the latter is just that, a myth. Do you seriously think we will see D-Day on our shores with a bunch of Iraqis, Afgans, Iranians, or Turkish? Bull. They farm heroin and sand, **** donkeys and sheep, we ran over the strongest military in the East in a matter of days. The old saying "fight them there or we have to fight them here" is bull. They are nothing. They will never be anything. Leave them be, let them busy themselves killing each other.


And stop sacrificing my Countrymen to this bull**** war that accomplishes nothing! They are worth more to me than that.

Chris
This post! Great stuff, well said. People need to read this post.
08-25-2019 12:14 AM
zumhug We heard ISIS would be destroyed in 30 days.

There was a SecDef fired when he advised the President ISIS was not gone.

It's fine if they destroy each other.

This hasn't been our fight for years, yet we're still there. Putting American lives on the line for a fight we should have no part left in.
08-24-2019 08:15 PM
PeterEnergy
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Originally Posted by dontbuypotteryfromme View Post
The more liberal the ideology is the better it will fit in with western civilization.
Agreed - provided you mean Classic Liberalism, promoting liberty and equal rights in a pluralistic society and NOT totalitarian communism, Leftism, that often usurps the word.
08-24-2019 07:52 PM
dontbuypotteryfromme
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Cant wait to hear this. Whats your solution this time Peter ?
Victory. The ideology of Islam has to be recognized for what it is, the scourge of humanity and the enemy of Western Civilization for centuries.

By thinking in terms of nationality, Afghan alone, we incorrectly identify the problem.
The more liberal the ideology is the better it will fit in with western civilization.

God at the top of the pyramid has never served a country well.
08-24-2019 07:09 PM
PeterEnergy
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Originally Posted by Mule Skinner View Post
Judge Myron Thompson disagrees:
Of course the Anti-God Statist's disagree! Fact is, the US has had an office of the chaplain since its inception. What does that tell you about the FF view on the Separation of Church and State?
08-24-2019 05:11 PM
Mule Skinner
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Originally Posted by PeterEnergy View Post
Total revisionist history.

There is a difference between the historical fact that America and the USA government is and always was a Christian nation with establishing a State sponsored Christian denomination. A plaque of the 10 Commandments is hardly public financing of a Christian denomination but part of Western Civilization for 2,000 years until the atheists emergence in the 1960's.

1A = Prohibition against establishing a State sponsored Christian denomination.

1A ≠ No religion in government.
Judge Myron Thompson disagrees:

http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/11/13/mo...ncommandments/
08-22-2019 10:16 AM
recklessdriver
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Originally Posted by PeterEnergy View Post
No government program ends.

Beyond that, I stated the end is when Islam is a mythology with no living believers.



We don't disband the police over turd world cities <in America> who waste American lives, including our brothers in blue.
Police protect our country and people not turds countries
08-22-2019 09:45 AM
PeterEnergy
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At some point you need a end goal.
No government program ends.

Beyond that, I stated the end is when Islam is a mythology with no living believers.

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Originally Posted by recklessdriver View Post
Wasting American lives over some turd country that doesn't ever want to fix itself is pointless.
We don't disband the police over turd world cities <in America> who waste American lives, including our brothers in blue.
08-22-2019 08:54 AM
recklessdriver
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IF Islam were purely a military organization, your mission goal thinking would be spot on. The problem with such thinking is that it does not fit the nature of the enemy.

Islam is a totalitarian ideology. Their "soldiers", Jihadi warriors are not in military uniform. When sufficiently indoctrinated they coalesce at unpredictable intervals to become an organic threat.

The root then, is not the mission they take on militarily. The mission must expand to eliminate the indoctrination, inherent in Islam ideology. The West has not had the courage to do that in a millennia, since the Crusades. At one point, I believe President Trump said his intelligence sources said there are 17 of the worlds 25 largest terrorist organizations in the Afghan and neighboring theater. Maybe this is largely keyboard warrior stuff BUT they are mixed in with the general population - of 1 billion Muslims.

This Afghan war has been going on for 18 years. We defeated the Nazi's in 4 years! But again, the Nazi's were organized along traditional military structures where mission goals are appropriate.
At some point you need a end goal. Wasting American lives over some turd country that doesn't ever want to fix itself is pointless.
08-22-2019 08:37 AM
PeterEnergy
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No end mission goals. It's time to pull them out of the middle east.
IF Islam were purely a military organization, your mission goal thinking would be spot on. The problem with such thinking is that it does not fit the nature of the enemy.

Islam is a totalitarian ideology. Their "soldiers", Jihadi warriors are not in military uniform. When sufficiently indoctrinated they coalesce at unpredictable intervals to become an organic threat.

The root then, is not the mission they take on militarily. The mission must expand to eliminate the indoctrination, inherent in Islam ideology. The West has not had the courage to do that in a millennia, since the Crusades. At one point, I believe President Trump said his intelligence sources said there are 17 of the worlds 25 largest terrorist organizations in the Afghan and neighboring theater. Maybe this is largely keyboard warrior stuff BUT they are mixed in with the general population - of 1 billion Muslims.

This Afghan war has been going on for 18 years. We defeated the Nazi's in 4 years! But again, the Nazi's were organized along traditional military structures where mission goals are appropriate.
08-22-2019 06:10 AM
recklessdriver
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Originally Posted by PeterEnergy View Post
Support American troops in the muzzle theater. That way, they don't play Islam at a theater near you.
No end mission goals. It's time to pull them out of the middle east.
08-22-2019 02:53 AM
PeterEnergy
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Originally Posted by Sharkbait View Post
Looks like muzzies are killing muzzies.

Where do I donate?
Support American troops in the muzzle theater. That way, they don't play Islam at a theater near you.
08-21-2019 05:37 PM
Sharkbait
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Originally Posted by PeterEnergy View Post
After 18 years of American involvement, the nonsense between Sunni and Shiite continue. https://apnews.com/b5ceb0cfb33d4d73aaaadf5eee19fe9d

How can America responsibly leave?
Looks like muzzies are killing muzzies.

Where do I donate?
08-21-2019 02:07 PM
recklessdriver No real loss to society
08-21-2019 01:43 PM
PeterEnergy
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Originally Posted by Mule Skinner View Post
Not forcing religion X on people of religion Y
is the reason we have that proscription in the First Amendment.
Total revisionist history.

There is a difference between the historical fact that America and the USA government is and always was a Christian nation with establishing a State sponsored Christian denomination. A plaque of the 10 Commandments is hardly public financing of a Christian denomination but part of Western Civilization for 2,000 years until the atheists emergence in the 1960's.

1A = Prohibition against establishing a State sponsored Christian denomination.

1A ≠ No religion in government.
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