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07-18-2019 08:13 PM
Lagnar There's a lot going on in this thread. Good stuff.

I have 3 working machines. A win 8.1 laptop, a win 7 desktop and a win xp2005 desktop. I keep the xp box around because it has a HDTV tuner in it that I use to record OTA programs. The laptop is what I do most of my surfing on, and the win 7 one is the fast one that I use to rip my bluray discs.

I ran Linux Mint on my old laptop until it crapped out, but the new one has a graphics driver conflict so no Linux. I ditched the 8.1 interface and use a thing called Classic Shell to get the old look and feel http://www.classicshell.net/. I use Brave and Startpage.

Brave is built on the open source Chromium browser, not Chrome or Firefox. Brave is very fast compared to Firefox.

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Warp, now there's a word I haven't heard in decades. I had Warp installed on a 386 box back in the day. So much disk thrashing I thought it was going to vibrate off the desk. I got the copy for free at COMDEX.
07-18-2019 01:17 PM
The Old Coach
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Originally Posted by cantankerous View Post
Anyone use the avg browser?
Is that the German AVG that offered anti-virus? Didn't have a good experience with that.
07-18-2019 12:41 PM
Snyper708
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Originally Posted by The Old Coach View Post
I dropped Ghostery once I saw how many trackers https://www.flightradar24.com/35.01,-77.98/8 was picking up that Ghostery wasn't.

On this page alone, Adblock stopped 4 ads, Privacy Badger caught 19 trackers.
My AdBlockPlus is stopping 15 ads, and Ghostery is blocking 13 trackers right now.
07-16-2019 10:36 AM
jetgraphics [TUX ALERT - Linux mentioned]
https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutoria...-you-install#0


Running Ubuntu directly from either a USB stick or a DVD is a quick and easy way to experience how Ubuntu works for you, and how it works with your hardware. Most importantly, it doesn't alter your computer's configuration in any way, and a simple restart without the USB stick or DVD is all that's needed to restore your machine to its previous state.

With a live Ubuntu, you can do almost anything you can from an installed Ubuntu:
  • Safely browse the internet without storing any history or cookie data
  • Access files and edit files stored on your computer or USB stick
  • Create new office suite documents and save them remotely
  • Fix broken configurations to get a computer running again
07-13-2019 08:26 PM
cantankerous Anyone use the avg browser?
07-13-2019 02:25 PM
GrizzlyetteAdams I will have to try the Privacy Badger!

BTW, AdblockPlus took out nine ads for me on this page.
07-13-2019 01:09 PM
The Old Coach I dropped Ghostery once I saw how many trackers Privacy Badger was picking up that Ghostery wasn't.

On this page alone, Adblock stopped 4 ads, Privacy Badger caught 19 trackers.
07-13-2019 12:56 PM
Snyper708 Use Adblock and Ghostery and you won't have problems with ads and trackers while using Chrome.
07-10-2019 11:52 AM
HomeDefense
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Originally Posted by Justme11 View Post
Yes, I think everyone calls it that.

But it has kept my machines safe as can be for at least 5 years now. And it apparently does automatic backups to the cloud. And I got 10 licenses for like 25 bucks for almost 2 years.

That extra room on the disk was just gathering dust anyways.
Norton has improved dramatically over the past 10 years. Both performance and reliability are much better. My wife is a virus magnet, but she has not picked up anything on her PCs for at least the last 8 years using Norton.

The real bloatware today is McAfee. Even the originator, John McAfee, does not recommend using it. He says it wasn't like that when he sold the company. If the guy who invented it will not use it, that's good enough for me.
07-10-2019 11:09 AM
Dude111
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Originally Posted by The Old Coach
11,189 tracker cookies in one week. All of which would have been blocked by Firefox.
Yes Chrome is the worst... I wouldnt be surprised if everything one does was reported to who knows who!!! (Google,etc)
07-09-2019 07:29 PM
KoolAde2 Why don't you check out eComStation. Built off of Warp 2.
07-09-2019 07:25 PM
Senex
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Originally Posted by The Old Coach View Post
Read my post above. Brave doesn't run at all on XP-Pro, old version of Firefox or not. I tried.

My guess is that, since I'm running an old version of Firefox which they're not updating, their "fake news" feature may pass me by. In any event, as long as I keep my legacy O/S, the only option would be to kowtow to Microsoft and run Explorer. DO NOT tell me to switch to Linux! Already tried that, and the disaster took me a whole day to unwind.

Since I'm running Firefox 52.9.0, which they aren't supporting, I never get updates; no slowdowns.

How do you know that the "Opt Out" button actually does anything?
Try MX Linux. I'm using it in LiveCD mode (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_CD) to teach myself Linux, not that I will ever give up my XP Pro, but it's wise to be literate in two or more operating systems...just in case. Running as LiveCD will make no changes to your HDD, so nothing to fix, and zero risk. An hour a day I fool with it, explore its innards, apps, etc., take it online for surfing the net, and so on. I learn a little more everyday. No hurry. XP Pro will be around til M$ figures out how to send a kill signal to self-destruct it, and becomes desperate enough to risk the fallout.
07-07-2019 10:08 PM
Senex
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Originally Posted by The Old Coach View Post
Can't They haven't bothered to compile a version for XP. Not happy with Mozilla's politics, but I'll stick with my old Ver. 52.9.0. I just went through the exercise of recloned my main drive to two other matching Dells and two spare drives. One Dell and both spares are stored off-site, just in case. Even if they make it impossible to get a legacy version of an app off the Innertubes**, I'm covered.

** Which NoScript apparently has done. Bttttttt! I've got it anyway, Giorgio!
I am a long time XP Pro user. Four years at the public library, plus over two years now with my home PC. The browser options are limited. Quite a few work, but most of them work crappy. The ones I let remain on my PC are:
Comodo IceDragon
Mypal
Centaury
SRWare Iron
Slimjet
The SRWare and Slimjet are slightly better than Chrome privacy-wise, but not by much.
06-25-2019 07:40 PM
The Old Coach One of my current problems is that I never learned AutoCAD. I learned Anvil1K when IBMs still had 8088 processors and ran DOS. I still use it, but not all DOS emulators are compatible. My one foray into Linux foundered on that problem.

Anvil1K was intuitive for those of us who learned on a board with pencils and vellum. AutoCAD started as program designed solely as a plotter driver, with no GUI. You wrote commands in ASCII, like programming a machine tool. When they cobbled up a GUI for it, it was far from intuitive, and IMHO still is. Through most of my career I had a staff of AutoCAD mechanics at my beck and call, so I managed without ever having to learn it.

Nonetheless, I do have a legal copy of AutoCAD Lite installed. Printer/Plotters today no longer understand the simple HPGL output from Anvil, so I have to port my files to AutoCAD via .DXF, and go from there.
06-25-2019 07:22 PM
The Old Coach Punch cards! (Hollerith cards). I had a school chum who got a job in a plant where they made those things. Giant spools of card stock that first ran thru a slitter that he ran to cut them to width. Being a natural nihilist, he first discovered that the speed in the web was fast enough to light a match. Then he discovered he could make the matches light by simply dropping them on the speeding paper. The match sticks of course got wound up in the accumulator spools, and he got fired. I think that was about 1965 or '66.

'ja ever play with CP/M? I know I still have my old Kaypro, but heaven knows if it would still work, even if I knew where the 5" floppies were. It had a Z-80 chip. There was a CP/M-86, designed to run on the Intel 8086, and I believe it was the basis for DOS.

Lotus123, release 1. Those were the days. Did some good engineering calculations with 123.
06-25-2019 07:14 PM
TraderBob
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Originally Posted by The Old Coach View Post
The word is stubborn, azshole. We old guys get like that. We've recognized that this reckless, breathless, mindless change just a racket to keep people spending money. We've had enough. Windows XP works. Don't force us off it.

Don't mess with old men.
We didn't get old by being stupid
Our debts are all paid
We remember better times
We're grouchy from constant aches and pains
We're too tired to run
So we don't give a damn
We'll just shoot you down and have done with it.

.................................................. .......Anonymous

Heck, I was OK with it when all we had was the command line. Can YOU work with just the command line, bub?
I still have some old IBM punch cards I was an MS- DOS guy in the beginning, and I remember Windows 1 back in the mid 80's, we were like WOW.
300 baud modems, and war-dialing when the super speed 2400 baud came out..lol, good times, good times.
We've come a long way since those days, nothing impresses me much any more,
While I have a modern system, I also have a Win98 and WinXP system. The win98 runs on old hardware too, a mini e-pc. It's for my car pc..running music, gps, and a few other things, mostly custom databases, but obviously not connected to the internet.
I think there are a few of us old guys around yet.
06-24-2019 10:51 PM
Steverino
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Originally Posted by The Old Coach View Post
That's the same article as the one I posted to start this thread, but mirrored on SiliconValley.com. I would never hand free clicks to the WaPpo
Ah, my bad man.. I've removed it...
06-24-2019 10:04 PM
The Old Coach
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Originally Posted by windexsunday View Post
So, to summarize, if you are too lazy or stupid to understand and configure the software you are using then Firefox is for you. However, please understand there is a downside to this…you end up using software like Firefox.

-ws
The word is stubborn, azshole. We old guys get like that. We've recognized that this reckless, breathless, mindless change just a racket to keep people spending money. We've had enough. Windows XP works. Don't force us off it.

Don't mess with old men.
We didn't get old by being stupid
Our debts are all paid
We remember better times
We're grouchy from constant aches and pains
We're too tired to run
So we don't give a damn
We'll just shoot you down and have done with it.

.................................................. .......Anonymous

Heck, I was OK with it when all we had was the command line. Can YOU work with just the command line, bub?
06-24-2019 09:31 PM
windexsunday So, to summarize, if you are too lazy or stupid to understand and configure the software you are using then Firefox is for you. However, please understand there is a downside to this…you end up using software like Firefox.

-ws
06-24-2019 01:01 PM
KLF https://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron.php

That's based on chromium like Chrome is, just without all the google stuff.
I've been lazy to study further how easy it would be to switch everything over.
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